Contact Debate - ethics of the logical categories

A place to debate contact stances and possible reforms. You can express pro-c, pro-reform, or anti-c views. Just be respectful and do not advocate engaging in criminalized sexual relationships.

What age should penis contact and or gential stimulation be allowed on a minor?

Higher then 18yo due to frontal lobe development completing at 25yo and or feminist concerns
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No votes
18yo because its tried and true for modern society that strikes balance
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No votes
14-17yo ebohebephilia, hormones are at their peek so that makes sex consent applicable
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6%
11.5-15yo completion of tanner stage four is technical sexual maturity so that makes sex consent applicable
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12%
8-11yo The very earliest signs or partial steps of puberty happened so that makes sex consent applicable
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6%
5.5-7yo The waldorf model of the brain shows stability as opposed to just passive and absorbant behaviors makes sex consent applicable
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12%
3-5yo They form normal memories, start talking and are potty trained so that makes sex consent applicable
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18%
0-2yo The very concept of consent needs to be challenged entirely with a radical overhaul of all norms
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47%
 
Total votes: 17

zarkle
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Re: Contact Debate - ethics of the logical categories

Post by zarkle »

I found an example to support all our claims, both mine and the others in this thread.

Here is a case where 3 contributing factors exist
https://old.reddit.com/r/adultsurvivors ... ion_story/

1) prepubescent sex contact from cousin without understanding what is going on
2) abusive angry parents
3) religious and social shame

all interacting together to create a traumatizing experience


Now let me give more examples that support my case of "rational sexual desires" not being present in many prepubescents

Ancient China knew prepubescent girls have no rational sexual drive
The Great Ming Code, 25th section, Criminal Code on Rape came into effect from 1373, raised the age of consent to 12 by stating 'girls younger than 12 lack rational sexual desires, therefore any intercourse with them is considered the same as rape and therefore punishable by death with hanging'.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEX97F8eCT8
and here is another case of a father raping his prepubescent daughter but she reports him right around the time she hits puberty, NOT a coincidence. Once the hormones kick in the moral repulsion starts, and of course the abusive behavior of his made it much worse. Still I hold an anti prepubescent incest stance. If incest must occur wait till after puberty so it can be a true informed decision.



This is why I disagree with having sex with prepubescents, despite being highly attracted to them. All I ever wanted to do is look at little Chinese girls on foreign swimwear catalog websites without triggering "child sexual abuse" laws. The goal is to figure out why some prepubescents have libidos and others don't because clearly reality is more complicated then I originally thought.
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