Hebephilia
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SirTrentMeryn
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Hebephilia
Thoughts, preferences, desires, discussion?
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Theendoftheline
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Re: Hebephilia
My thoughts, as I have said 1000 times before here is....we need to stop infantilizing teens....especially teens who are just shy of the legal age. lol peace.
Re: Hebephilia
I don't really have anything to add. I wish that an adult attraction to pubescent pre-teens was de-stigmatized, and that the only sexual/romantic taboos were rooted in valuing the happiness of all people and viewing emotional distress as the only inherent bad. I wouldn't personally benefit much from de-stigmatization, especially if it's rooted in something other than that everyone's happiness is good/only suffering is bad principle, but that would still be progress societally. I don't care too much about the topic at the moment.
I've never really liked the concept of hebephilia since I'm convinced that all teleiophiles are attracted to people who look relatively fertile, and those visual markers are present to some degree if someone has clearly at least started puberty (I wouldn't be surprised if most people were relatively attracted to older prepubescent children as well. One thing I've noticed about myself is that girls around the age of 10 seem to be among the least attractive to me in terms of age groups; although that's a generalization and I'll probably regret not properly explaining this, even though I'm attracted to tall women the shortness of younger girls makes up for their being flat-chested, for me. I can see a prepubescent girl over the age of 7 who looks objectively healthy and not think about her in that way at all though so my steady attraction is more or less toward teens, twenty-something-year-olds and thirty-something-year-olds, or people who look to be in that age range). I think it makes more sense than 'ephebephilia,' and even more sense if we're talking about people who strongly prefer pubescent-looking pre-teens/young teens (I don't really see how someone could prefer post-pubescent people in their late teens when they belong to the same age group, I would say, as people in their early 20s. Drawing clear lines between age groups is impossible enough, there are people in their 20s who look as though they could be in their early teens, 40-something-year-olds who could pass for people in their late 20s, nothing immediately happens after someone turns 18 or 25 or 35 etc., and people start/finish puberty at different times). I wouldn't really consider myself to be a hebephile if it refers to preference and not mere attraction (maybe my absolute fantasy ideal would be early teens but not necessarily. I think I thought that it would be at one point because my daydream/fantasy world ideal when I was younger was Kimberly Drummond from Diff'rent Strokes but Dana Plato was 18 in some of the episodes that really come to mind, and Jennifer Connelly when she was in her early teens although she was also very attractive in Blood Diamond, that's the latest I've seen her in, but in a different way. There was this character in a tv show who always stood out to me and I thought she looked 14, but from memory I think the actress was 19), my strong preference is for women under 40 and I don't really care about age if we're comparing people in their teens, twenties and thirties, that's a big part of why turning 40 was so difficult for me, it's the one age I haven't adapted to (at 38 I had no issue being 38 per se; although health-wise, in retrospect, I think things started to notably decline after 35; and even 28 and earlier ages in much less important ways, what bothered me was turning 40. I probably felt mild age dysphoria at the prospect of turning 30, maybe even when I was as young as 23, but I got over it and it wasn't a big deal. My mid-life despair over turning 40 is unprecedented for me, it will still hit me at times early in the morning or randomly even though the worst of it was earlier this year and at 39. Even in my early twenties, I remember thinking that being in my thirties would be ok, that was still young. I look at pictures of people when they were young in contrast with their being elderly or deep into middle age and even though I don't think they're objectively ugly or anything, it's so sad to me. What it represents in my mind is so brutal, to see someone in their teens or twenties and then see them 50 + or elderly, it's heartbreaking what time does to our bodies. Again, I don't think appearance matters intrinsically, but the loss of youth and hope for the future that I associate with it is so harsh to me, I don't want to properly break this down, I don't know if other people feel the same way).
I've never really liked the concept of hebephilia since I'm convinced that all teleiophiles are attracted to people who look relatively fertile, and those visual markers are present to some degree if someone has clearly at least started puberty (I wouldn't be surprised if most people were relatively attracted to older prepubescent children as well. One thing I've noticed about myself is that girls around the age of 10 seem to be among the least attractive to me in terms of age groups; although that's a generalization and I'll probably regret not properly explaining this, even though I'm attracted to tall women the shortness of younger girls makes up for their being flat-chested, for me. I can see a prepubescent girl over the age of 7 who looks objectively healthy and not think about her in that way at all though so my steady attraction is more or less toward teens, twenty-something-year-olds and thirty-something-year-olds, or people who look to be in that age range). I think it makes more sense than 'ephebephilia,' and even more sense if we're talking about people who strongly prefer pubescent-looking pre-teens/young teens (I don't really see how someone could prefer post-pubescent people in their late teens when they belong to the same age group, I would say, as people in their early 20s. Drawing clear lines between age groups is impossible enough, there are people in their 20s who look as though they could be in their early teens, 40-something-year-olds who could pass for people in their late 20s, nothing immediately happens after someone turns 18 or 25 or 35 etc., and people start/finish puberty at different times). I wouldn't really consider myself to be a hebephile if it refers to preference and not mere attraction (maybe my absolute fantasy ideal would be early teens but not necessarily. I think I thought that it would be at one point because my daydream/fantasy world ideal when I was younger was Kimberly Drummond from Diff'rent Strokes but Dana Plato was 18 in some of the episodes that really come to mind, and Jennifer Connelly when she was in her early teens although she was also very attractive in Blood Diamond, that's the latest I've seen her in, but in a different way. There was this character in a tv show who always stood out to me and I thought she looked 14, but from memory I think the actress was 19), my strong preference is for women under 40 and I don't really care about age if we're comparing people in their teens, twenties and thirties, that's a big part of why turning 40 was so difficult for me, it's the one age I haven't adapted to (at 38 I had no issue being 38 per se; although health-wise, in retrospect, I think things started to notably decline after 35; and even 28 and earlier ages in much less important ways, what bothered me was turning 40. I probably felt mild age dysphoria at the prospect of turning 30, maybe even when I was as young as 23, but I got over it and it wasn't a big deal. My mid-life despair over turning 40 is unprecedented for me, it will still hit me at times early in the morning or randomly even though the worst of it was earlier this year and at 39. Even in my early twenties, I remember thinking that being in my thirties would be ok, that was still young. I look at pictures of people when they were young in contrast with their being elderly or deep into middle age and even though I don't think they're objectively ugly or anything, it's so sad to me. What it represents in my mind is so brutal, to see someone in their teens or twenties and then see them 50 + or elderly, it's heartbreaking what time does to our bodies. Again, I don't think appearance matters intrinsically, but the loss of youth and hope for the future that I associate with it is so harsh to me, I don't want to properly break this down, I don't know if other people feel the same way).