How exactly do you justify child-adult sex (in scenarios where you believe it would be permissible)?

[BLueRibbon]

It seems like you want the minor to be the one to come to us for sex when that is just unrealistic.

Why is that unrealistic?

Its not unrealistic if put in the proper situation which is highly unlikely for us , I was speaking from the % of it actually happening. its for sure possible but very unlikely.

My last close YF tried to start something when he was 12 or 13 (I declined due to the legal risk). My understanding from talking with other BLs is that this is not uncommon. I think you're buying too much into the childhood innocence myth.

[Harlan]

It seems like you want the minor to be the one to come to us for sex when that is just unrealistic. Without the internet do you think any girl or woman would even want to have sex?

When I was 4 or 5 years old, I didn't know anything about sex and we didn't have internet, but I had a certain craving for intimacy. I was in kindergarten at the time, and my desires coincided with those of another boy. We went into seclusion, started undressing each other and petting each other.

Minors are not isolated and constantly interact with other older minors and experience the adult world indirectly. This is a natural process of socialization. It's true that people constantly involve minors in various ordinary activities, and no one calls it corruption and molestation. For example, in their second year of life, all children are encouraged to start walking and no one tells that it is premature, their psyche is not ready for it and that they could get seriously hurt. On the contrary, they are taught from an early age to use traffic lights, and they buy them a tricycle. But obscurantism prevent them from explaining the naturalness of sexuality in the same way.

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Without the internet do you think any girl or woman would even want to have sex?

Well, of course yes, intimacy IS a human need, and for many people this includes sexuality. If this weren’t the case humanity would be done for. And needs don’t just “come up” at a given age. They’re natural, hard-coded and present themselves from birth to death if they are not repressed by wider society.
And more generally I do think sexual contact between kids and adults should thus be legal and not discouraged if both the kid and the adult consent and are not pressured to do so by each other or a third party. And pressuring/manipulation is NOT the same as encouragement or seduction for the record. Just because both people enjoy something and it doesn’t directly hurt others it contributes to not only well-being of the two but creates lifelong experiences and lets the two learn about sexuality from each other. And I do think when it comes to sex, if both parties enjoy it it isn’t inherently harmful (well, apart from STIs and unwanted pregnancy but contraceptives, condoms, STI treatment and safe abortion methods exist and should be available for everyone for free).

I also absolutely disagree with the idea of ‘virginity’ being sacred. One can’t do anything with it except lose it, so it becomes a method of stigmatizing sexual contact. So why should one even care about that at all? In fact I think sexual experience genuinely is a good thing to have in a relationship as experiences generally lead to learning and compassion. Pressuring someone to remain “virgin” until marriage should thus be just as strictly forbidden as pressuring someone into having sex, with the same sentences.

[TheDude]

Justify is not the right word to use in this query.

One does not need to justify right action, only those of moral ambiguity.

An interpersonal action is either consensual or it is not.

Furthermore, it doesn't take great mental acuity to determine for oneself if they want or do not want something.

At in dignity and at the invitation of another and the chances you will suffer for those choices is astronomically low.

Only when you force yourself upon another, try to manipulate a situation into being that would not evolve itself organically, will you run into trouble.