Contact Debate - ethics of the logical categories

[Scorchingwilde]

0-2 for learning consent but 3-5 for contact
consent should be one of the first things that someone learns, either thru their parents or at school (with good sex education as well because that is important and they should know what they're consenting to at age 3-4 because thats when they can make memories and remember stuff)

as long as they understand what'll happen, how to say "I want to stop doing this" and "I want to do this" then contact is fine

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There is only one type of sex education that I approve of.

Have you forgot the risk of pregnancy STDs and learning about consent itself? Like I said if I'm pushed I can lower it from 13 to 11.5 but most children below 9-10 don't have a proper libido.They'll won't find anything strongly attractive but will still find anything potentially attractive because they lack hormones that put them in erotic mental states. This can lead to people taking of them.

This explanation of libido and attraction is entirely false or at least not universal, my preteen experiences literally contradict these claims. I doubt I'm one in a million in that regard.

[zarkle]

There is only one type of sex education that I approve of.

Have you forgot the risk of pregnancy STDs and learning about consent itself? Like I said if I'm pushed I can lower it from 13 to 11.5 but most children below 9-10 don't have a proper libido.They'll won't find anything strongly attractive but will still find anything potentially attractive because they lack hormones that put them in erotic mental states. This can lead to people taking of them.

This explanation of libido and attraction is entirely false or at least not universal, my preteen experiences literally contradict these claims. I doubt I'm one in a million in that regard.

Before the puberty hormones kicked in I was attracted to platonic friendships and the abstract concept of vaginas as holes and non sexual cartoons or people on TV of both genders. After the hormones kicked in I was attracted to boobs, butts, women and of course girls. The sexual attraction was there, but it was weak and abstract until puberty at 10 where it became obsessive afterwards.

The hormones are what made my libido concrete and fixed instead of wishy washy. and I didn't become a horny perv until 11. Showing the hormones take a bit of time and are clearly playing a major role sexual attention and what one is attracted too. Without hormones I'd still be sexually attracted to platonic concepts and non sexual things. Let me just give one example

When I was 3 I had abstract non clear protosexual fantasies of some little boy showing his pee pee in the McDonald's play place or my other friend Kyle who never showed his peepee, it was purely platonic.

When I was 5 I had abstract non clear protosexual fantasies of going back in my moms tummy and meeting GOD, as well as Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog and Furby.

When I was 7 I had abstract non clear protoseuxal fantasies of meeting the people from this television show I liked (I'd rather not say)

When I was 9 I had abstract non clear protosexual fantasies of meeting the president and his opponent candidate of that era (lol)

When I was close to 8 my kidneys started producing weak hormones that made me curious in the opposite sex and vaginas as holes, I remember that era. That was when I first started showing interest in what a vagina looked like and watching Britney Spears Dance lewd. 9 is the first time I started having fantasies about fighting a bully in the 5th grade and rescuing the pretty girl. It was also the first time I watched sexy women dance on MTV and started routinely masturbating. Then at 10 I became overwhelmed with sexual thoughts about girls boobs, butts, lingerie that I never had before and enhanced the masturbation experience. It was no longer "proto sexual prehormone arousal" it was concrete arousal the same that I have as an adult. Caused by hormones and the puberty process.

Therefore If a child doesn't have these hormones they can't understand what they are attracted too, Thus we can make the case that a six year old girl can view sex as purely platonic without understanding it from hormones, thus she can be deceived in having sex with a fat overweight neckbeard due to pure platonic reasons. Therefore it is deceiving her into doing something she may not do if she had hormones.

Its not that hard. Antis are at fault for never giving cold logical consent debates. All they do is get disgusted and morally outraged and never explain why. I'm explaining why. If you really push me I admit I did had some curiosity to adult women early as 8, but it was mixed in with abstractions. True Lustful feelings didn't happen till 10.