Most people get caught in relationships sexual or not with minors because the minor talks!

[Theendoftheline]

If a 14 yo girl say, happens to have like a 24 yo bf most often than not the only reason he gets imprisoned and charged with statutory is 1. The parents walk in and catch them in the act or 2. She starts to for whatever reason feel guilty and rats whoever out to her parents and her parents take full action.

So if minor teens do happen to love someone older they need to learn to zip it, if they really love the person they are with to any degree they need to realize they have the right to be silent and not talk to ANYONE!

Thoughts on this?

[CantChainTheSpirit]

I'd be interested in what you're basing your assertion on, is there research to back this up?

Most reported crime is for digital crime such as cp rather than physical crime, there's actually very little reported physical crime.
I've heard various estimates for the number of pedophiles in society, ranging from 1% to 10%, I've even heard some argue it could be as high as 1/3 of men have some pedophilic tendencies. That seems excessive but 10% feels to me about right, although I do think more have some low level of repressed attraction to some minors.

I just looked up that in 2024, federal sentencing reported that there were 1,430 cases involving sexual abuse of a minor, so that's 0.000418373% of the population of the US or if the low end of that map range (1% of people are maps) then it means 0.042% of maps offend.

So either very few maps offend physically which means maps are not predatory and have a very high level of self control, or very few minors report physical experiences.

[zarkle]

If a 14 yo girl say, happens to have like a 24 yo bf most often than not the only reason he gets imprisoned and charged with statutory is 1. The parents walk in and catch them in the act or 2. She starts to for whatever reason feel guilty and rats whoever out to her parents and her parents take full action.

So if minor teens do happen to love someone older they need to learn to zip it, if they really love the person they are with to any degree they need to realize they have the right to be silent and not talk to ANYONE!

Thoughts on this?

The state and society put pressure on her that brainwashes her into thinking she is a victim of oppression. Keep in mind if there is coercion, black mail, threats, deep lies to obtain sex/love/trust or any fear that makes her afraid to say no it indeed does make her a actual victim, but if those things are not present any age gap after puberty's vitals is fair dating game. Thus making it illogical for her to claim she is a victim.

There is also a problem with heartbroken teens reporting their ex to get a revenge. If a 18 year old breaks up during a bad relationship (that doesn't involve coercion/fraud) all she can do is listen to breakup music and learn to get over it. Heal from heartbreak process. If a 17 year old is in the same exact scenario and her boyfriend is at least 3-4 years older she can file statutory rape charges. Its the same heart break emotions reframed as rape. We see that a lot with teenagers who had sex with adults who show the exact same signs of trust betrayal, but we never see prepubescents say that because the prepubescents aren't usually romantically/sexually attached.

Honestly one problem is guys treating women like pump and dump sex machines, But it also it also has to do with such a sex negative culture we have. the best solution is to be straight up honest do you want a partner for sexual fun or deep romantic connection or both. As someone who has attracted to prepubescents with no serious interest in 14-17 year olds I can't help any further.

[luvslilgirlbumsntums]

So either very few maps offend physically which means maps are not predatory and have a very high level of self control, or very few minors report physical experiences.

I think there is some of both but for sure i would say it is more that very few minors report their sexual relations with adults. if they are willing and happy doing so then why would they?? it’s also possible that some of the few cases that do get reported are due to spite or jealousy etc..either the adult and child have a fall out over something? Or the map starts to have relations with another child and there is a jealousy reaction?? you can be sure that there are a lot more kids having sexual contact with adults than many people believe. The physical stuff is definitely happening

[galileo2333]

If a 14 yo girl say, happens to have like a 24 yo bf most often than not the only reason he gets imprisoned and charged with statutory is 1. The parents walk in and catch them in the act or 2. She starts to for whatever reason feel guilty and rats whoever out to her parents and her parents take full action.

So if minor teens do happen to love someone older they need to learn to zip it, if they really love the person they are with to any degree they need to realize they have the right to be silent and not talk to ANYONE!

Thoughts on this?

That shoots a few holes in the narrative that young people experiencing sexual "abuse" (interactions that shouldn't be labeled such) keep it a secret because they're ashamed and afraid, and that's why it's "underreported".

[CantChainTheSpirit]

So either very few maps offend physically which means maps are not predatory and have a very high level of self control, or very few minors report physical experiences.

I think there is some of both but for sure i would say it is more that very few minors report their sexual relations with adults. if they are willing and happy doing so then why would they?? it’s also possible that some of the few cases that do get reported are due to spite or jealousy etc..either the adult and child have a fall out over something? Or the map starts to have relations with another child and there is a jealousy reaction?? you can be sure that there are a lot more kids having sexual contact with adults than many people believe. The physical stuff is definitely happening

You are right and yet all that nuance is lost in the debate.
It's flat out "kids aren't sexual and maps are predators" based on crime statistics. Not actual research or meaningful data.
When I think about why all debate is closed down, even genuine neutral research is shut down, I'm reminded of an expression I once heard.

"If our voices held no power, they wouldn't try to silence us".

I think that is true for this subject. It is shut down out of fear of what would be learned. If people really remembered their own childhoods and school days and how they felt in their youth, if people really talked to their kids about how they really feel, if people stopped and for a moment gave kids real respect and heard them, I mean really heard them, then this blinkered world view would collapse and people would be forced to see their kids as real, full people and that terrifies people. Subconsciously they need their kids to be dependent, vulnerable, part humans devoid of emotion or complexity.

[Theendoftheline]

If a 14 yo girl say, happens to have like a 24 yo bf most often than not the only reason he gets imprisoned and charged with statutory is 1. The parents walk in and catch them in the act or 2. She starts to for whatever reason feel guilty and rats whoever out to her parents and her parents take full action.

So if minor teens do happen to love someone older they need to learn to zip it, if they really love the person they are with to any degree they need to realize they have the right to be silent and not talk to ANYONE!

Thoughts on this?

That shoots a few holes in the narrative that young people experiencing sexual "abuse" (interactions that shouldn't be labeled such) keep it a secret because they're ashamed and afraid, and that's why it's "underreported".

Teens in general just need to learn that if they just shut up about it if questioned by police or whatever......their is very very little they can do for proof of contact....I mean what are the gonna do force the minor to undergo a genital swab test and.......wait stupid question the government would 100 percent go that far lmao....