In order to have safe contact we need police abolition

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lovefindsaway
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Re: In order to have safe contact we need police abolition

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sovereign wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 5:23 pm
lovefindsaway wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 11:33 pm We need police and prison abolition. We need to abolish all systems and structures that control and manage people and surveil our private lives. Without the presence of police and prisons, both MAPs and AAMs would feel safer pursuing romantic and sexual relationships with each other. As long as the police exist, people’s lives will be in danger.


Before police and prisons existed, if people didn’t like you, you could just leave the community and start another one elsewhere. In the modern colonial world, if you aren’t liked, if your behaviors aren’t considered to be “socially acceptable”, they lock you up. We don’t have to live like this if we seek abolition.
I can easily dream up such an alternate reality and enjoy livimg in it. But it would require a strong and armed community to guarantee safety from all manner of transgressions against us. And of course the question of whether it's realistic wasn't posed here. Maybe in a post collapse world? ;)
That’s exactly what needs to happen. I’m currently reading “This Nonviolent Shit’ll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible” by Charles E. Cobb Jr. Highly recommend.
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"Part of being a revolutionary is creating a vision that is more humane. That is more fun, too. That is more loving. It's really working to create something beautiful."- Assata Shakur
lovefindsaway
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Re: In order to have safe contact we need police abolition

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derando wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 6:57 pm
lovefindsaway wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 11:33 pm We need police and prison abolition. We need to abolish all systems and structures that control and manage people and surveil our private lives. Without the presence of police and prisons, both MAPs and AAMs would feel safer pursuing romantic and sexual relationships with each other. As long as the police exist, people’s lives will be in danger.


Before police and prisons existed, if people didn’t like you, you could just leave the community and start another one elsewhere. In the modern colonial world, if you aren’t liked, if your behaviors aren’t considered to be “socially acceptable”, they lock you up. We don’t have to live like this if we seek abolition.
I agree! Everyone should rather be allowed to protect themselves because in the end , the state is only going to give you the worst outcome.
Exactly. Self defense/ Community defense will always be more effective than state sanctioned violence/ policing.
Sex worker, organizer, youth liberationist, trans man, 32
"Part of being a revolutionary is creating a vision that is more humane. That is more fun, too. That is more loving. It's really working to create something beautiful."- Assata Shakur
lovefindsaway
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Re: In order to have safe contact we need police abolition

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sovereign wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 5:23 pm
lovefindsaway wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 11:33 pm We need police and prison abolition. We need to abolish all systems and structures that control and manage people and surveil our private lives. Without the presence of police and prisons, both MAPs and AAMs would feel safer pursuing romantic and sexual relationships with each other. As long as the police exist, people’s lives will be in danger.


Before police and prisons existed, if people didn’t like you, you could just leave the community and start another one elsewhere. In the modern colonial world, if you aren’t liked, if your behaviors aren’t considered to be “socially acceptable”, they lock you up. We don’t have to live like this if we seek abolition.
I can easily dream up such an alternate reality and enjoy livimg in it. But it would require a strong and armed community to guarantee safety from all manner of transgressions against us. And of course the question of whether it's realistic wasn't posed here. Maybe in a post collapse world? ;)
That’s exactly what needs to happen. I’m currently reading “This Nonviolent Shit’ll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible” by Charles E. Cobb Jr. Highly recommend.
Sex worker, organizer, youth liberationist, trans man, 32
"Part of being a revolutionary is creating a vision that is more humane. That is more fun, too. That is more loving. It's really working to create something beautiful."- Assata Shakur
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