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For an article under development:
Authority figures, celebrities, and members of the public frequently make extreme statements about MAPs, threatening them with arrest or violence even if they haven't broken the law. This causes MAPs to feel they are constantly being hunted, leading to poor mental health outcomes and subpar decision-making. Let's take a look at some examples of these comments.
Please find relevant quotes. It's best if they're from the UK, but they can be from anywhere.

I'd appreciate a greater focus on comments by authority figures and celebrities, rather than random people on Twitter.
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Google translation:
"11 forum users of the “Girl Lover Forum” (GLF) had arranged to meet in person [...] Such a meeting takes place annually on the occasion of "Alice Day". On Saturday, May 3, when the police intervened, all 11 people were present. The aim of the police operation was to establish the identity of the people present and to carry out identification processing. The people were observed by the police throughout the day, but no crimes or attempts were made. [...] All 11 people were arrested [...] After the police measures were taken, all arrested people were released, "voluntary searches" and identification processing were carried out in the meantime, and data carriers were confiscated. [...] But the police go even further when they say that they want to prevent “the intimate group from having a nice day.” This reveals that, according to this prosecutor, who is, after all, the head of Central Crime Control, pedophiles are at the bottom of the food chain - they shouldn't interact, they shouldn't meet, they shouldn't have a nice day. What is important again is that this was about people who had not committed any criminal offenses. The mere fact that pedophiles meet was enough to suspect that crimes were also being planned or carried out." https://www.telepolis.de/features/Bonda ... 65233.html and https://www.telepolis.de/features/Die-o ... 65235.html

"In 2014 two members of our community participated in Prague Pride. For the first time we openly presented ourselves as pedophiles. During the parade we were handing out leaflets with a short explanation of who we are and a link to this website. We were accompanied by sociologist Martin Fafejta and a few other people. "While we were handing out leaflets the police questioned us. They asked for our ID's and took one or our members and one of our supporters to the police station for further questioning, as well as Martin Fafejta who didn't have his ID. They were all released without charges. https://pedofilie-info.cz/nejenhomo/2014/en/years.html

Google translation:
Before the Prague Pride 2019 march, which the ČEPEK community decided to attend, the community editorial office received a threatening email stating that if he went to Prague Pride that he would find them in a parade and murder them in an aggressive way.
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Cesk ... ague_Pride

We held six focus group discussions with randomly chosen citizens on ideas, opportunities and concerns regarding neuroimaging applications (Arentshorst 2014). Often citizens raised the topic of paedophilic interest identification as an opportunity for neuroimaging applications: rarely was this technological option deemed problematic. [...] These examples show that issues of reliability, privacy and civil liberties can be overruled when it concerns the target population of paedophiles
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5330990/

"Politicians have argued in favor of mass surveillance, claiming it is required to catch pedophiles [...] In 2009 the Bavarian Teachers’ Association proposed medical screening of future teachers to detect pedophilia with a view to preempting child sexual abuse in schools (Meyer, 2009). Spyware producers Gamma Group has justified its production of surveillance technology by stating that this was intended for deployment against terrorists or ‘pedophile rings’ (Hopkins and Morris, 2015)."
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10. ... 18.1544233

"Savage calls upon pedophilia expert James Cantor, who suggests chemical castration may be the best option for someone with a primary sexual attraction to children. Savage quotes Cantor as arguing that allowing a pedophile to be around children unsupervised is like letting a cat “be in charge of the canary” (Savage, 2010). " https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/f ... philia.pdf

The following quote academic article would probably be seen as illegal suicide baiting and hate speech if it were about pretty much any other discriminated group:
"a plausible philosophical case can be built for morally obligatory suicide [...] No one would disagree that acts of pedophilia are crimina carnis. Pedophilia, according to the American Psychological Association, "is the act or fantasy [!] of engaging in sexual activity with pre-pubertal children as the preferred or exclusive method of achieving sexual excitement," [...] the American Psychological Association states that "fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment of social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning" (APA, 2000, p. I). Hence, pedophilia can internally harm an individual through problems with conscience, as well as making it much harder for him to function and establish the nurturing relationships he needs to develop his personhood (Kant, 1996, p. 161). If the inability to form necessary relationships for adequate personal development forces the individual to have a life not worth living, then there are at least prudent reasons to end the life (Parfit, 1992, p. 391). Given the severity of the potential problems, a life this defective could actually turn out to be what H. Tristam Engelhardt, Jr. calls a wrongful life"
https://www.jstor.org/stable/27504408

Google translation (unfortunately no primary source given):
"However, all social organisations, institutions, or political parties of pedophiles or for pedophiles, for the surveillance of the adherence of rights granted by the constitution in regard to pedophiles, or for the dissemination of not-pathological statements in regard to pedophilia and sexual acts between children and adults (the legal definition of child sexual abuse), have been prohibited since 1986 by law. In this year there was a violent destruction of the, up to this point by UNICEF-supported, official pedophilic organisation CRIES [...] The prohibiton of all social organisations, institutions, or political parties who have the above mentioned liberalistic convictions is explained with the claim that the dissemination of such views would be 'childpornographic'. Therefore, since 1986 Belgium takes a special position with this special prohibition of assembly, freedom of speech, and scientific publications, in regard to pedophilia und child abuse in Western Industrialised nations."
https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... Cr_Belgien
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An obvious one is the French state murdering Joseph Douce.

Steve Deace and various celebrities openly endorse the murder of pedophiles and others write music about it.

https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Joseph_Douc%C3%A9
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Christ! This sure doesn't do much for morale.
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Lennon72 wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:32 pm Christ! This sure doesn't do much for morale.
Dealing with the extremes of MAPphobia is triggering, but sometimes necessary.
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Lennon72 wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:32 pm Christ! This sure doesn't do much for morale.
It's for an article about a MAP who killed his entire family due to the oppression he faced. It happened last month and hasn't hit the mainstream media yet.
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