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I recently saw a comment on a post that triggered a train of thought that I have been soaking in for a while. The comment said "I'm starting to believe that mankind needs someone to hate, which allows them to focus all of their internal self-hate on others. We seem to fill this need for them, so in time we become our own worst enemy (which delights others to no end)." I've heard a lot of M.A.P's make this argument. On a podcast, called Pedologues they argued that eighty years ago society's punching bag was people of color. Then in the 70's it was homosexuals. In the 2000's it was transsexuals. Now it's M.A.P's. Podcasts like Chart O'Graph, Map The World, and I could be wrong but I think M.A.P's IRL made the same argument. My friend and I used to say stereotypes don't come from nowhere. Some of them are rooted in truth like Canadians Are Polite. What I'm saying is that M.A.P's didn't get their reputation from thin air. The thousands of kids that go missing every year are a contributing factor. Child trafficking is a factor. Shows like To Catch a Predator are a factor—especially episodes where the guy brings rope and duct tape. Humans are designed to categorize. That's how we make sense of the world for good and bad. Fire hurts you so stay away from it. Angry people are prone to violence so keep your distance. If all you've ever seen is the negative side of inner-city life then you're going to think all black people are just that way. That's how we work, but in reality, humans are too complex to put in a box. The world only sees the negative and ugly side of M.A.P's so can you blame them for hating us? When dudes like R Kelly are peeing on girls while chaining them up in a basement or Jeffrey Epstein offering children to his friends like party favors. Elvis Presley cheated and abused Priscilla and Roman Polanski who drugged a young girl. Dan Schneider who was emotionally abusive towards his staff of kids and Jimmy Saville who was a serial rapist. Is society's perception of us based on "man's need to have a group to be a scapegoat" or is there some truth to why they hate us? We've been categorized as villains because all of our representations are some pretty bad people. We've been categorized as villains because all of our representations are some pretty bad people. It'd be nice if good people who do not have a criminal came forward to show that they are good people who don't want to kill children and leave them in a ditch but that's not going to happen. Therefore how do we differentiate between unfair stigmatization and justified societal protection?

It sucks to say it but social fear from the past has always been rooted in pedophila. There's a PSA from the 60's warning the general public of homosexuals called 'Boys Beware.' You can find it on YouTube. It's about a man luring a high school boy to his house. In the early 1900's it was told and taught that blacks are natural rapists and kiddy diddlers. This sparked the rise of the Ku Klux Klan. The association between cannabis and criminal behavior, including extreme and false claims like it causing people to commit sexual violence against children, can be traced back to early 20th-century propaganda. This belief wasn’t rooted in fact but rather in deliberate misinformation and racial prejudice. During prohibition they justified illigalizing alcohol by arguing that drinking made dad's touch their kids. The Nazis propagated the idea that Jews were sexual predators, including framing them as pedophiles, as part of their broader campaign to dehumanize and demonize Jewish people. This tactic was a key element of their antisemitic propaganda and served to justify the persecution of Jews by portraying them as dangerous to women and children. The Salem Witch Trials were rooted in children being abducted. In modern America, the main argument against trans people using women's restrooms is that they could be a registered sex offender targeting little girls. A lot of Christians argue that one of the main reasons why Christianity has had a decline is because of the Catholic Priest's scandal. So many people are against immigration because it's preached that Mexican and Muslim culture have a CSA problem so they're going to bring that over here. Especially since human trafficking across the Mexican border is a serious problem. The point I'm trying to make is that M.A.P's have always been villainized. It was just exploited to turn society against certain social groups.

Here's the thing about the argument that mankind needs a group to hate. he theory that society always needs a group to hate is often associated with the concept of the "scapegoat mechanism"and can be linked to ideas from sociology, psychology, and anthropology. This theory suggests that societies perpetually seek out a marginalized group to blame for their problems, maintaining social cohesion and channeling collective anxieties or frustrations onto an "other." French philosopher and anthropologist René Girard proposed that human societies use scapegoating as a way to resolve social tensions. According to Girard, societies project their conflicts onto a single individual or group, blaming them to restore harmony. The chosen scapegoat is often powerless or outside the dominant group. In-group and out-group dynamics, rooted in evolutionary psychology, explain the tendency to define an "us" by creating a "them." This mechanism strengthens group identity by fostering hostility toward an external group. Such dynamics are evident in various forms of prejudice, including racism, sexism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Critical theorists argue that power structures perpetuate the marginalization of groups to maintain the status quo. By defining certain groups as deviant or dangerous, dominant systems can justify inequality and control. This sociological perspective highlights how society constructs deviant identities. Labeling theory suggests that once a group is marked as "other," it is systematically excluded or demonized, often becoming a focus of societal hatred. This cyclical pattern reflects a broader human tendency to externalize blame for internal issues, often in ways that perpetuate suffering for marginalized groups.

So are M.A.P's the victim or is it a justifiable fear? In all of my comments about groups being targeted, fear was a tool to justify prejudice against certain groups. The difference between that and being a M.A.P is that it's believed that anybody who has a pedophilic sexual orientation an innate danger to children. There are a lot of stereotypes against M.A.P's that are rooted in truth but I personally don't experience them. Just like how normal heterosexual men don't think about sex all the time but will think "damn" if they see an attractive woman at Walmart, I occasionally do that as well if I see an attractive minor. There's the sex addict type like Charlie Sheen in Two And a Half Men, Barney in How I Met Your Mother, and Quagmire in Family Guy who constantly think about having sex with Women and there are M.A.P's where sex with kids is an every second thought. Just like how most men don't find EVERY woman attractive, I don't want to smash every minor I come across. The other day I was walking home and the local middle school track team was doing laps through neighborhoods. As they passed by me I didn't find any of them attractive. I wasn't really paying attention either but still. I don't know if it's because I'm predominantly attracted to adults but based on what the M.A.P's I've met told me who are ONLY attracted to kids, none of us have this ticking time bomb problem. I'm not saying this to say M.A.P's are just like normal people but in reality we are. There's different types of M.A.P's just like there's diffrent types of everyone else. I used to think "bullshit" when I used to hear the words asexual pedophile but the more that I think about it I was told when I was younger that asexuals are not sexually attracted to anyone but can be emotionally attracted to love someone. Can a pedophile be attracted to a kid without sex being involved? Just fall in love with the kid itself, it just hit me that could happen.

Adult women face higher overall rates of sexual violence than children, largely due to their greater societal exposure. Child abduction cases that involve rape and murder are less frequent but tend to garner more public attention due to the victim's age and vulnerability. It’s likely that more women are abducted for rape and murder overall, given their higher societal exposure and the broader context in which such crimes occur. However, crimes against children tend to evoke more visceral reactions and public attention, potentially skewing perceptions of frequency. The FBI's studies on sexual offenders and serial killers indicate he vast majority of pedophiles do not abduct, rape, or kill children. Estimates suggest that less than 1% of individuals with pedophilic inclinations engage in abduction, sexual assault, and murder. The point I'm trying to make is that do heterosexual men have a stereotype that they abduct, rape, and kill children? No. But it's believed that pedophiles do that because that's the only representation that we get. If Americans knew how many of us are there they would never stop shitting their pants. All of us aren't sexual deviants. I don't want to invite a young girl over to get her to make out with me. I don't want to take a middle school girl's virginity. I don't want to ask a young girl for nudes so I can spread them around the internet. And I especially don't want to rip off a young girls clothes to destroy her life for personal gain. I'm not the sadistic sexual deviant that the world thinks I am when they hear the word pedophile. I love the warm feeling I get in my chest when I help people. I loved putting a bouquet of roses on my eighty-year-old neighbors door step for her birthday. I love helping people get out of a sticky situation like this guy I knew who was enduring elderly abuse from his son who'd take his food stamps so I'd buy him groceries and take him out to eat taco's until I was able to get him out of that house. I love being kind and respectful and considerate and taking care of people. I know it's selfish to say this but it makes me feel happy when I see someone is doing well because of me. I used to have Mormon missionaries over for Christmas every year and I'd buy them their favorite cake or pie or whatever was their favorite holiday treat from home because they couldn't accept gifts because they were constantly going from place to place. The smiles on their faces meant everything to me. I love helping people but the moment they'd find out if was like I was a completely different person. They'd scold me as their noses scrunch by the very sight of me. Now they didn't want to work with me. Now the missionaries couldn't wait to leave. Every kind gesture had an agenda and every word had a forced smile. Didn't matter that I got their electricity turned on, all that mattered was that I was a sexual deviant in their eyes. I'm saying all this to say that I'm indecisive about whether it's justified to hate us. You can't blame someone for hating you if all they've been taught is that people like you are dangerous. But how can we get help if some Doctor's won't even meet with us to get chemically castrated. I mean you could take out a loan of thirty grand to cover the surgery without ever even Googling a picture involving minors and still, once someone finds out you're dead to them. Is it justified to cast us out of society instead of making it socially acceptable to come forward about this to. motivate us to get help? All I know is sometimes...I don't want to be a pedophile.
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Thank you for this long and detailed post.

Do you have any interest in turning it into an essay for a guest blog on the Mu website?
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BLueRibbon wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:25 pm Thank you for this long and detailed post.

Do you have any interest in turning it into an essay for a guest blog on the Mu website?
Sure. Just let me know how to get it done and I'll have it to you in no time. :D
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Batmanthecute wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:48 pm
BLueRibbon wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:25 pm Thank you for this long and detailed post.

Do you have any interest in turning it into an essay for a guest blog on the Mu website?
Sure. Just let me know how to get it done and I'll have it to you in no time. :D
You can just submit it to this thread. We'll copy edit, add graphics, and post to the main site.
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BLueRibbon wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:23 pm
Batmanthecute wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:48 pm
BLueRibbon wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:25 pm Thank you for this long and detailed post.

Do you have any interest in turning it into an essay for a guest blog on the Mu website?
Sure. Just let me know how to get it done and I'll have it to you in no time. :D
You can just submit it to this thread. We'll copy edit, add graphics, and post to the main site.

I recently saw a comment on a post that triggered a train of thought. The comment said, "I'm starting to believe that mankind needs someone to hate, which allows them to focus all of their internal self-hate on others. We seem to fill this need for them, so in time we become our own worst enemy (which delights others to no end)." I've heard a lot of M.A.P's make this argument. On a podcast, called Pedologues they argued that eighty years ago society's punching bag was people of color. Then in the 70's it was homosexuals. In the 2000's it was transsexuals. Now it's M.A.P's. Podcasts like Chart O'Graph, Map The World, and I could be wrong but I think M.A.P's IRL made the same argument. My friend and I used to say stereotypes don't come from nowhere. Some of them are rooted in truth like Canadians Are Polite. What I'm saying is that M.A.P's didn't get their reputation from thin air. The thousands of kids that go missing every year are a contributing factor. Child trafficking is a factor. Shows like To Catch a Predator are a factor—especially episodes where the guy brings rope and duct tape. Humans are designed to categorize. That's how we make sense of the world for good and bad. Fire hurts you so stay away from it. Angry people are prone to violence so keep your distance. If all you've ever seen is the negative side of inner-city life then you're going to think all black people are just that way. That's how we work, but in reality, humans are too complex to put in a box. The world only sees the negative and ugly side of M.A.P's so can you blame them for hating us? When dudes like R Kelly are peeing on girls while chaining them up in a basement or Jeffrey Epstein offering children to his friends like party favors. Elvis Presley cheated and abused Priscilla and Roman Polanski who drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl. Dan Schneider who was emotionally abusive towards his staff of kids and Jimmy Saville who was a serial rapist. Is society's perception of us based on "man's need to have a group to be a scapegoat" or is there some truth to why they hate us? We've been categorized as villains because all of our representations are some pretty bad people. The only celebrated M.A.P's from my understanding is a character called No Face in a kid's movie called Spirited Away and Alan Ginsberg but that depends on your views on statutory relations. It'd be nice if highly respected public figures who do not have a criminal record came forward to show that there are good M.A.P's who don't want to kill children and leave them in a ditch but that's not going to happen. Therefore how do we differentiate between unfair stigmatization and justified societal protection?

It sucks to say it but social fear from the past has always been rooted in pedophilia. There's a PSA from the 60's warning the general public of homosexuals called 'Boys Beware.' You can find it on YouTube. It's about a man luring a high school boy to his house. In the early 1900's it was taught to the general public that African Americans are prone to rape and diddle kids. This sparked the rise of the Ku Klux Klan. The association between cannabis and criminal behavior, including extreme and false claims that it causes people to commit sexual violence against children, can be traced back to early 20th-century propaganda. This belief wasn’t rooted in fact but rather in deliberate misinformation and racial prejudice. During prohibition, they justified illegalizing alcohol by arguing that drinking made dads touch their kids. The Nazis propagated the idea that Jews were sexual predators, including framing them as pedophiles, as part of their broader campaign to dehumanize and demonize Jewish people. This tactic was a key element of their antisemitic propaganda and served to justify the persecution of Jews by portraying them as dangerous to women and children. The Salem Witch Trials were rooted in children being abducted. In Modern America, the main argument against trans people using women's restrooms is that they could be registered sex offenders targeting little girls. A lot of Christians argue that one of the main reasons why Christianity has had a decline is because of the Catholic Priest's scandal. So many people are against immigration because it's preached that Mexican and Muslim culture have a CSA problem so they're going to bring that over here. Especially since human trafficking across the Mexican border is a serious problem. The point I'm trying to make is that M.A.P's have always been villainized. It was just exploited to turn society against certain social groups.

Here's the thing about the argument that mankind needs a group to hate. The theory that society always needs a group to hate is often associated with the concept of the "scapegoat mechanism" and can be linked to ideas from sociology, psychology, and anthropology. This theory suggests that societies perpetually seek out a marginalized group to blame for their problems, maintaining social cohesion and channeling collective anxieties or frustrations onto an "other." French philosopher and anthropologist René Girard proposed that human societies use scapegoating as a way to resolve social tensions. According to Girard, societies project their conflicts onto a single individual or group, blaming them for restoring harmony. The chosen scapegoat is often powerless or outside the dominant group. In-group and out-group dynamics, rooted in evolutionary psychology, explain the tendency to define an "us" by creating a "them." This mechanism strengthens group identity by fostering hostility toward an external group. Such dynamics are evident in various forms of prejudice, including racism, sexism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Critical theorists argue that power structures perpetuate the marginalization of groups to maintain the status quo. By defining certain groups as deviant or dangerous, dominant systems can justify inequality and control. This sociological perspective highlights how society constructs deviant identities. Labeling theory suggests that once a group is marked as "other," it is systematically excluded or demonized, often becoming a focus of societal hatred. This cyclical pattern reflects a broader human tendency to externalize blame for internal issues, often in ways that perpetuate suffering for marginalized groups.

So are M.A.P's the victim or is it a justifiable fear? In all of my comments about groups being targeted, fear was a tool to justify prejudice against certain groups. The difference between that and being an M.A.P. is that it's believed that anybody who has a pedophilic sexual orientation is an innate danger to children. There are a lot of stereotypes against M.A.P's that are rooted in truth but I don't experience them. Just like how normal heterosexual men don't think about sex all the time but will think "damn" if they see an attractive woman at Walmart, I occasionally do that as well if I see an attractive minor. There's the sex addict type like Charlie Sheen in Two And a Half Men, Barney in How I Met Your Mother, and Quagmire in Family Guy who constantly think about having sex with Women and there are M.A.P's where sex with kids is an every second thought. Just like how most men don't find EVERY woman attractive, I don't want to smash every minor I come across. The other day I was walking home and the local middle school track team was doing laps through neighborhoods. As they passed by me I didn't find any of them attractive. I wasn't paying attention either but still. I don't know if it's because I'm predominantly attracted to adults but based on what the M.A.P's I've met told me who are ONLY attracted to kids, none of us have this ticking time bomb problem. I'm not saying this to say M.A.P's are just like normal people but in reality we are. There are different types of M.A.P's just like there are different types of everyone else. I used to think "bullshit" when I used to hear the words asexual pedophile but the more that I think about it I was told when I was younger that asexuals are not sexually attracted to anyone but can be emotionally attracted to love someone. Can a pedophile be attracted to a kid without sex being involved? Just fall in love with the kid itself, it just hit me that could happen.

Adult women face higher overall rates of sexual violence than children, largely due to their greater societal exposure. Child abduction cases that involve rape and murder are less frequent but tend to garner more public attention due to the victim's age and vulnerability. More women are likely abducted for rape and murder overall, given their higher societal exposure and the broader context in which such crimes occur. However, crimes against children tend to evoke more visceral reactions and public attention, potentially skewing perceptions of frequency. The FBI's studies on sexual offenders and serial killers indicate the vast majority of pedophiles do not abduct, rape, or kill children. Estimates suggest that less than 1% of individuals with pedophilic inclinations engage in abduction, sexual assault, and murder. The point I'm trying to make is that do heterosexual men have a stereotype that they abduct, rape, and kill children? No. But it's believed that pedophiles do that because that's the only representation that we get. If Americans knew how many of us are there they would never stop shitting their pants. All of us aren't sexual deviants. I don't want to invite a young girl over to get her to make out with me. I don't want to take a middle school girl's virginity. I don't want to ask a young girl for nudes so I can spread them around the internet. And I especially don't want to rip off a young girl's clothes to destroy her life for personal gain. I'm not the sadistic sexual deviant that the world thinks I am when they hear the word pedophile. I love the warm feeling I get in my chest when I help people. I loved putting a bouquet of roses on my eighty-year-old neighbor's doorstep for her birthday. I love helping people get out of a sticky situation like this guy I knew who was enduring elderly abuse from his son who'd take his food stamps so I'd buy him groceries and take him out to eat tacos until I was able to get him out of that house. I love being kind and respectful and considerate and taking care of people. I know it's selfish to say this but it makes me feel happy when I see someone is doing well because of me. I used to have Mormon missionaries over for Christmas every year and I'd buy them their favorite cake or pie or whatever was their favorite holiday treat from home because they couldn't accept gifts because they were constantly going from place to place. The smiles on their faces meant everything to me. I love helping people but the moment they'd find out it was like I was a completely different person. They'd scold me as their noses scrunched at the very sight of me. Now they didn't want to work with me. Now the missionaries couldn't wait to leave. Every kind gesture had an agenda and every word had a forced smile. Didn't matter that I got their electricity turned on, all that mattered was that I was a sexual deviant in their eyes. I'm saying all this to say that I'm indecisive about whether it's justified to hate us. You can't blame someone for hating you if all they've been taught is that people like you are dangerous. But how can we get help if some Doctor won't even meet with us to get chemically castrated? I mean you could take out a loan of thirty grand to cover the surgery without ever even Googling a picture involving minors and still, once someone finds out you're dead to them. Is it justified to cast us out of society instead of making it socially acceptable to come forward about this too? Motivate us to get help? All I know is sometimes...I don't want to be a pedophile.
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Thank you!

I'll copy edit, add graphics, and get it posted by this weekend at the latest.
Batmanthecute wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:51 am
BLueRibbon wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:23 pm
Batmanthecute wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:48 pm

Sure. Just let me know how to get it done and I'll have it to you in no time. :D
You can just submit it to this thread. We'll copy edit, add graphics, and post to the main site.

I recently saw a comment on a post that triggered a train of thought. The comment said, "I'm starting to believe that mankind needs someone to hate, which allows them to focus all of their internal self-hate on others. We seem to fill this need for them, so in time we become our own worst enemy (which delights others to no end)." I've heard a lot of M.A.P's make this argument. On a podcast, called Pedologues they argued that eighty years ago society's punching bag was people of color. Then in the 70's it was homosexuals. In the 2000's it was transsexuals. Now it's M.A.P's. Podcasts like Chart O'Graph, Map The World, and I could be wrong but I think M.A.P's IRL made the same argument. My friend and I used to say stereotypes don't come from nowhere. Some of them are rooted in truth like Canadians Are Polite. What I'm saying is that M.A.P's didn't get their reputation from thin air. The thousands of kids that go missing every year are a contributing factor. Child trafficking is a factor. Shows like To Catch a Predator are a factor—especially episodes where the guy brings rope and duct tape. Humans are designed to categorize. That's how we make sense of the world for good and bad. Fire hurts you so stay away from it. Angry people are prone to violence so keep your distance. If all you've ever seen is the negative side of inner-city life then you're going to think all black people are just that way. That's how we work, but in reality, humans are too complex to put in a box. The world only sees the negative and ugly side of M.A.P's so can you blame them for hating us? When dudes like R Kelly are peeing on girls while chaining them up in a basement or Jeffrey Epstein offering children to his friends like party favors. Elvis Presley cheated and abused Priscilla and Roman Polanski who drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl. Dan Schneider who was emotionally abusive towards his staff of kids and Jimmy Saville who was a serial rapist. Is society's perception of us based on "man's need to have a group to be a scapegoat" or is there some truth to why they hate us? We've been categorized as villains because all of our representations are some pretty bad people. The only celebrated M.A.P's from my understanding is a character called No Face in a kid's movie called Spirited Away and Alan Ginsberg but that depends on your views on statutory relations. It'd be nice if highly respected public figures who do not have a criminal record came forward to show that there are good M.A.P's who don't want to kill children and leave them in a ditch but that's not going to happen. Therefore how do we differentiate between unfair stigmatization and justified societal protection?

It sucks to say it but social fear from the past has always been rooted in pedophilia. There's a PSA from the 60's warning the general public of homosexuals called 'Boys Beware.' You can find it on YouTube. It's about a man luring a high school boy to his house. In the early 1900's it was taught to the general public that African Americans are prone to rape and diddle kids. This sparked the rise of the Ku Klux Klan. The association between cannabis and criminal behavior, including extreme and false claims that it causes people to commit sexual violence against children, can be traced back to early 20th-century propaganda. This belief wasn’t rooted in fact but rather in deliberate misinformation and racial prejudice. During prohibition, they justified illegalizing alcohol by arguing that drinking made dads touch their kids. The Nazis propagated the idea that Jews were sexual predators, including framing them as pedophiles, as part of their broader campaign to dehumanize and demonize Jewish people. This tactic was a key element of their antisemitic propaganda and served to justify the persecution of Jews by portraying them as dangerous to women and children. The Salem Witch Trials were rooted in children being abducted. In Modern America, the main argument against trans people using women's restrooms is that they could be registered sex offenders targeting little girls. A lot of Christians argue that one of the main reasons why Christianity has had a decline is because of the Catholic Priest's scandal. So many people are against immigration because it's preached that Mexican and Muslim culture have a CSA problem so they're going to bring that over here. Especially since human trafficking across the Mexican border is a serious problem. The point I'm trying to make is that M.A.P's have always been villainized. It was just exploited to turn society against certain social groups.

Here's the thing about the argument that mankind needs a group to hate. The theory that society always needs a group to hate is often associated with the concept of the "scapegoat mechanism" and can be linked to ideas from sociology, psychology, and anthropology. This theory suggests that societies perpetually seek out a marginalized group to blame for their problems, maintaining social cohesion and channeling collective anxieties or frustrations onto an "other." French philosopher and anthropologist René Girard proposed that human societies use scapegoating as a way to resolve social tensions. According to Girard, societies project their conflicts onto a single individual or group, blaming them for restoring harmony. The chosen scapegoat is often powerless or outside the dominant group. In-group and out-group dynamics, rooted in evolutionary psychology, explain the tendency to define an "us" by creating a "them." This mechanism strengthens group identity by fostering hostility toward an external group. Such dynamics are evident in various forms of prejudice, including racism, sexism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Critical theorists argue that power structures perpetuate the marginalization of groups to maintain the status quo. By defining certain groups as deviant or dangerous, dominant systems can justify inequality and control. This sociological perspective highlights how society constructs deviant identities. Labeling theory suggests that once a group is marked as "other," it is systematically excluded or demonized, often becoming a focus of societal hatred. This cyclical pattern reflects a broader human tendency to externalize blame for internal issues, often in ways that perpetuate suffering for marginalized groups.

So are M.A.P's the victim or is it a justifiable fear? In all of my comments about groups being targeted, fear was a tool to justify prejudice against certain groups. The difference between that and being an M.A.P. is that it's believed that anybody who has a pedophilic sexual orientation is an innate danger to children. There are a lot of stereotypes against M.A.P's that are rooted in truth but I don't experience them. Just like how normal heterosexual men don't think about sex all the time but will think "damn" if they see an attractive woman at Walmart, I occasionally do that as well if I see an attractive minor. There's the sex addict type like Charlie Sheen in Two And a Half Men, Barney in How I Met Your Mother, and Quagmire in Family Guy who constantly think about having sex with Women and there are M.A.P's where sex with kids is an every second thought. Just like how most men don't find EVERY woman attractive, I don't want to smash every minor I come across. The other day I was walking home and the local middle school track team was doing laps through neighborhoods. As they passed by me I didn't find any of them attractive. I wasn't paying attention either but still. I don't know if it's because I'm predominantly attracted to adults but based on what the M.A.P's I've met told me who are ONLY attracted to kids, none of us have this ticking time bomb problem. I'm not saying this to say M.A.P's are just like normal people but in reality we are. There are different types of M.A.P's just like there are different types of everyone else. I used to think "bullshit" when I used to hear the words asexual pedophile but the more that I think about it I was told when I was younger that asexuals are not sexually attracted to anyone but can be emotionally attracted to love someone. Can a pedophile be attracted to a kid without sex being involved? Just fall in love with the kid itself, it just hit me that could happen.

Adult women face higher overall rates of sexual violence than children, largely due to their greater societal exposure. Child abduction cases that involve rape and murder are less frequent but tend to garner more public attention due to the victim's age and vulnerability. More women are likely abducted for rape and murder overall, given their higher societal exposure and the broader context in which such crimes occur. However, crimes against children tend to evoke more visceral reactions and public attention, potentially skewing perceptions of frequency. The FBI's studies on sexual offenders and serial killers indicate the vast majority of pedophiles do not abduct, rape, or kill children. Estimates suggest that less than 1% of individuals with pedophilic inclinations engage in abduction, sexual assault, and murder. The point I'm trying to make is that do heterosexual men have a stereotype that they abduct, rape, and kill children? No. But it's believed that pedophiles do that because that's the only representation that we get. If Americans knew how many of us are there they would never stop shitting their pants. All of us aren't sexual deviants. I don't want to invite a young girl over to get her to make out with me. I don't want to take a middle school girl's virginity. I don't want to ask a young girl for nudes so I can spread them around the internet. And I especially don't want to rip off a young girl's clothes to destroy her life for personal gain. I'm not the sadistic sexual deviant that the world thinks I am when they hear the word pedophile. I love the warm feeling I get in my chest when I help people. I loved putting a bouquet of roses on my eighty-year-old neighbor's doorstep for her birthday. I love helping people get out of a sticky situation like this guy I knew who was enduring elderly abuse from his son who'd take his food stamps so I'd buy him groceries and take him out to eat tacos until I was able to get him out of that house. I love being kind and respectful and considerate and taking care of people. I know it's selfish to say this but it makes me feel happy when I see someone is doing well because of me. I used to have Mormon missionaries over for Christmas every year and I'd buy them their favorite cake or pie or whatever was their favorite holiday treat from home because they couldn't accept gifts because they were constantly going from place to place. The smiles on their faces meant everything to me. I love helping people but the moment they'd find out it was like I was a completely different person. They'd scold me as their noses scrunched at the very sight of me. Now they didn't want to work with me. Now the missionaries couldn't wait to leave. Every kind gesture had an agenda and every word had a forced smile. Didn't matter that I got their electricity turned on, all that mattered was that I was a sexual deviant in their eyes. I'm saying all this to say that I'm indecisive about whether it's justified to hate us. You can't blame someone for hating you if all they've been taught is that people like you are dangerous. But how can we get help if some Doctor won't even meet with us to get chemically castrated? I mean you could take out a loan of thirty grand to cover the surgery without ever even Googling a picture involving minors and still, once someone finds out you're dead to them. Is it justified to cast us out of society instead of making it socially acceptable to come forward about this too? Motivate us to get help? All I know is sometimes...I don't want to be a pedophile.
Brian Ribbon, Mu Co-Founder and Strategist

The Push
Pro-Reform
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