Guest blog: Does mankind need a group to hate, or is the prejudice against MAPs justified?

[BLueRibbon]

Written by our friend and MAP Forum member Batmanthecute, and edited by Mu.

I recently saw a comment on a post that triggered a train of thought. The comment said, "I'm starting to believe that mankind needs someone to hate, which allows them to focus all of their internal self-hate on others. We seem to fill this need for them, so in time we become our own worst enemy (which delights others to no end)." I've heard a lot of MAPs make this argument. On a podcast called Pedologues, participants argued that eighty years ago, society's punching bag was people of color. Then in the 70's, it was homosexuals. In the 2000's, it was transsexuals. Now it's MAPs. Podcasts like Chart O'Graph, Map The World - and I could be wrong, but I think MAPs IRL - made the same argument.

https://www.map-union.org/blog/guest-bl ... -justified

[Strato]

"... Jimmy Saville was a serial rapist." Really? How does the author of the piece justify his assertion in the absence of any prosecution brought by the UK Crown Prosecution Service? Does he know more than the Yorkshire, Surrey, and Metropolitan police forces combined?

I strongly suggest the false accusation be removed if MAP Union's intention is to publish accurate and honest guest blogs. A further point: it is Savile, not "Saville'.

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Our community is in danger of weakening its cause by parroting the very same untruths spread by those who profit from treating us as less than human.

[BLueRibbon]

"... Jimmy Saville was a serial rapist." Really? How does the author of the piece justify his assertion in the absence of any prosecution brought by the UK Crown Prosecution Service? Does he know more than the Yorkshire, Surrey, and Metropolitan police forces combined?

I strongly suggest the false accusation be removed if MAP Union's intention is to publish accurate and honest guest blogs. A further point: it is Savile, not "Saville'.

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Our community is in danger of weakening its cause by parroting the very same untruths spread by those who profit from treating us as less than human.

I copy edited before posting, but tried very hard to preserve the author's voice. Maybe the original author would like to defend his statement?

[Strato]

I apologise to all if I came across as brusque in my comment, but if we are to get anywhere as a community, we really need to avoid siding with those who promote paedo-hysteria, such as western governments and their main stream media mouth-pieces.

As the UK police discovered, there is not a shread of evidence to support the notion that Savile sexually abused anyone during his life time. He was a bachelor and music media celebrity, just as Cliff Richard was. Both suffered at the hands of a cowardly and toxic UK establishment determined to pin the 21st Century 'Star of David' paedophile armband upon them, Savile posthumously so.

[PorcelainLark]

"... Jimmy Saville was a serial rapist." Really? How does the author of the piece justify his assertion in the absence of any prosecution brought by the UK Crown Prosecution Service? Does he know more than the Yorkshire, Surrey, and Metropolitan police forces combined?

Again, he would have been prosecuted if he had been alive after Operation Yewtree. It's disingenuous to keep saying because Savile wasn't prosecuted he wasn't a serial rapist.

I strongly suggest the false accusation be removed if MAP Union's intention is to publish accurate and honest guest blogs. A further point: it is Savile, not "Saville'.

If my opinion matters, I oppose accommodating historical revisionism.

[BLueRibbon]

I apologise to all if I came across as brusque in my comment, but if we are to get anywhere as a community, we really need to avoid siding with those who promote paedo-hysteria, such as western governments and their main stream media mouth-pieces.

As the UK police discovered, there is not a shread of evidence to support the notion that Savile sexually abused anyone during his life time. He was a bachelor and music media celebrity, just as Cliff Richard was. Both suffered at the hands of a cowardly and toxic UK establishment determined to pin the 21st Century 'Star of David' paedophile armband upon them, Savile posthumously so.

You are very welcome to express your concerns. I want to encourage healthy debate, even criticism. I am hoping that the author will participate in this thread.

Honestly though, do you believe Savile to be innocent?

[BLueRibbon]

I've fixed the spelling of Savile's name, and added the word 'allegedly'.

[Strato]

You are very welcome to express your concerns. I want to encourage healthy debate, even criticism. I am hoping that the author will participate in this thread. Honestly though, do you believe Savile to be innocent?

Freedom to express opinions ... glad to hear it BLueRibbon.

Innocent? ... well, yes, because I have taken the trouble to follow his case, once the allegations began to surface all those years ago. jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com, rabbitaway.blogspot.com, and annaraccoon.com have proved invaluable deep dive blog resources courageously swimming against a UK establishment-sponsored witch hunt successfully fomenting hysterical public opinion for more than a decade now.

In your article about Huw Edwards, you yourself said: “The UK's hunt of MAPs must always be condemned …” Savile’s case parallels that of Edwards regarding the UK establishment cowardly modus operandi. However, the two celebrity witch hunts then diverge because there was insufficient evidence to proceed in the former, plus Savile was bog-standard alpha-male heterosexual.

As I said before, best not to mention Savile at all in the article. To do so implies his guilt, even if you use the word "allegedly", because he appears in a list of abusers condemned by the author, all of whom apparently do our community no favours.

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