acceptance and denial

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Re: acceptance and denial

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WavesInEternity wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:48 am
18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:06 am i think the reason why i prefer 1-8 is because there is very limited differences between boys and girls. which is quite interesting considering i like both men and women anyway.
I see. One of the reasons I start being attracted to girls around 7 ± 1 year is precisely that they become more distinct from boys, more "girly". I'm not at all attracted to boys (I score 0 on the Kinsey Scale, what about you?), and for a girl to be attractive to me, she must have a characteristically feminine personality, style, demeanour, etc. Physically, what I find most attractive of all is the fleeting moment when a girl's body just starts to become more typically feminine, which can be anywhere from age 8 to 12 depending on the girl.

My fantasies are very diverse, ranging from the most tender caresses to outright rape. The more violent ones are more frequent with older girls and the few adults I fall for... the younger the girl, the more gentle are my fantasies. A nepiophile here described their fantasies as being barely sexual at all and extremely gentle, which got me thinking that perhaps if I did find girls in that age range attractive, my fantasies involving them might well be of a similar nature.
18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:06 am i remember having sexual feelings around 4 or 5. i would sometimes sit on the edge of a table at school, stimulating myself (so i agree with your statement about the relation between puberty and sexuality). as i got older, around 13, i began properly masturbating quite frequently. i’ve had sexual thoughts and feelings for as long as i can remember.
Wow, that sure is precocious. I most certainly had no sexual thoughts nor feelings before age 7, and they weren't oriented toward others before age 9. By "properly masturbating" at 13, do you mean that you didn't experience orgasms before that age?

Something I've often wondered is whether or not the feelings of MAPs might be linked to our own sexuality as children, and to what extent. The age at which girls start being sexually attractive to me is pretty much exactly the age at which I started masturbating. You've had sexual feelings for "as long as you can remember" and are attracted to very young children, even babies. However, if I recall correctly, Fragment here might be a counter-example, as he's a hebephilic BL but was a late bloomer sexually.
18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:06 am and honestly, i’d love to do try age play. i’ve just never met someone who i think would be into that sort of thing. i often wonder if i experienced something as a young child that i can’t remember that affected my feelings, because there are times where i feel child like it would enjoy age regressing, in a non sexual way.

and i’ve also hoped my feelings would go away. it’s hard. if there are people who feel the way i do, which i trust that there are, then there are people who would never hurt a child and just want to give them a beautiful, sensual experience and admire their beauty.
There are quite a few people into age play in the BDSM community (do you know that acronym?), including some specific sub-cultures like DDLG (Daddy Dom & Little Girl). They're controversial, though; I was once banned from an online BDSM community—and "reported to authorities"!—for consensual age play with adults, without mentioning that I'm a MAP or real little girls in any way at any point. I'm a reasonably experienced Dom, and although I'm not into DDLG specifically (I've got my own "daddy issues", ugh), I can definitely answer any more general questions you might have about age play or BDSM.

There are many people who feel the way you do. If I ever were to have any actual sexual contact with a younger girl of my "ideal" age (11 or 12, generally), I'd want to worship her and give her the best possible time above all. With adults, I always feel more selfish because my level of attraction is inevitably lower. Just holding a little girl in my arms can feel as good to me as naked foreplay and French kisses with a young adult girlfriend, even if I really connect with her sexually.

first, can u explain how i quote just a particular part of a message? i can’t figure it out lol. also, thank u for the acronyms. and i took that kinsey scale, i score a 3. and by properly masturbating, it included climaxing and utilizing whatever i had learned in watching porn. i also developed pretty early and often had older boys or men looking at me or making jokes about how my body looked more like a lady even though my face looked, and kinda still looks, young. and i’ve been into the bdsm community for awhile. i know about DDLG, never really tried it tho. but i think i’d really enjoy role playing like that with someone who would want to dom me
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18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:25 pm first, can u explain how i quote just a particular part of a message?
I just do it by deleting the parts I don't want.
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18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:25 pm first, can u explain how i quote just a particular part of a message? i can’t figure it out lol
When you click on the 'Quote' button, the syntax you get is something like:

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If you wanted to reply separately to "MESSAGE PART #1" and "MESSAGE PART #2", as I often do, the syntax would be:

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18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:25 pm i took that kinsey scale, i score a 3
A score of 3 is generally interpreted as "perfectly bisexual". However, while it means that you don't have any preference for either sex, it can correspond to sexual orientations other than "bisexual". For instance, I had a pansexual sapiophile girlfriend who scored a 3.
18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:25 pm i’ve been into the bdsm community for awhile. i know about DDLG, never really tried it tho. but i think i’d really enjoy role playing like that with someone who would want to dom me
Cool. Again, if you've got any questions, feel free to ask. I'm especially knowledgeable about edgeplay, consensual non-consent, and aftercare. My longest-time ex-girlfriend was an autopedophile and both her and the one before were autobiastophiles, so I've had the opportunity to really push the boundaries when it comes to all sorts of rapey role-play.
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Cool. Again, if you've got any questions, feel free to ask. I'm especially knowledgeable about edgeplay, consensual non-consent, and aftercare. My longest-time ex-girlfriend was an autopedophile and both her and the one before were autobiastophiles, so I've had the opportunity to really push the boundaries when it comes to all sorts of rapey role-play.
that sounds like a interesting experience to have. how old was the girlfriend that you tried that role-play with? and do u think that most guys who would be into that would be much older than me? there are things that i like to be called or things i like to say during intercourse that i sometimes like to satisfy that desire of feeling like a little
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18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:39 pm that sounds like a interesting experience to have. how old was the girlfriend that you tried that role-play with? and do u think that most guys who would be into that would be much older than me? there are things that i like to be called or things i like to say during intercourse that i sometimes like to satisfy that desire of feeling like a little
I tried it with two girlfriends. One was 19, the other was 20 to 27.

With the former girlfriend, I notably tried drugging her with her prior consent (once "forcefully", with a syringe!) and "raping" her while she was unconscious, because she had that fetish... something like autonarcobiastophilia? But in her case it was broader and included autosomnophilia. With the latter girlfriend, we had a very special and tight sexual bond, and for the first 5 years of our relationship (i.e. until the last two years, when it started to break down), we made the careful and deliberate decision to forego the use of a safe word, to make our role play much more immersive. I wouldn't recommend that unless you find a very special partner with whom you have a very special level of sexual compatibility (we were friends for two years before becoming lovers, and best friends for more than half that period).

Guys who are into BDSM, and all aspects thereof, are really of all ages. That said, when I was younger, it happened twice that a girl told me I was "too young" to be a Dom for her. In my experience, submissive girls tend to prefer older guys (and, to a lesser extent, submissive guys also do tend to prefer mature women). I wouldn't personally say that age matters, but experience certainly does. You shouldn't engage in edgeplay or any risky BDSM practices with an inexperienced Dom, and if one suggests any such practices without knowing you extremely well and first having engaged in more tame sexual activity with you over a significant period of time, that's a massive red flag.
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18andconfused wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:25 am (this is my first time in here)

I’ve had these thoughts for as long as I can remember. I can recall being in first grade and getting in trouble for showing my underwear to my friends and them showing me theirs. I used to daydream about touching my childhood friend. And my body reacts to things - sometimes I’ll start getting tingly and wet from a thought that I continue to tell myself I shouldn’t be having. I don’t know any terms or what things are called. For me, I can certainly be romantic and sexual with people my age and even older. I just also have a desire on the other end of that spectrum. 1-8 is so cute to me. I love the chubbiness of the littles, the puffiness and the smooth skin. And I can remember being young and knowing that my body wanted to be touched. I’d hump my stuffed animals and sit on things to stimulate myself. I enjoyed it. I’m sure I would have enjoyed someone to show me the best ways. That’s what intrigues me about the 6,7&8. Do any other girls relate?
Welcome, I love 1-8 boys and girls too. I just think they are so damn cute and special at that age. Bonus points if they are chubby. I hope we can be great friends.
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I tried it with two girlfriends. One was 19, the other was 20 to 27.

With the former girlfriend, I notably tried drugging her with her prior consent (once "forcefully", with a syringe!) and "raping" her while she was unconscious, because she had that fetish... something like autonarcobiastophilia? But in her case it was broader and included autosomnophilia. With the latter girlfriend, we had a very special and tight sexual bond, and for the first 5 years of our relationship (i.e. until the last two years, when it started to break down), we made the careful and deliberate decision to forego the use of a safe word, to make our role play much more immersive. I wouldn't recommend that unless you find a very special partner with whom you have a very special level of sexual compatibility (we were friends for two years before becoming lovers, and best friends for more than half that period).

Guys who are into BDSM, and all aspects thereof, are really of all ages. That said, when I was younger, it happened twice that a girl told me I was "too young" to be a Dom for her. In my experience, submissive girls tend to prefer older guys (and, to a lesser extent, submissive guys also do tend to prefer mature women). I wouldn't personally say that age matters, but experience certainly does. You shouldn't engage in edgeplay or any risky BDSM practices with an inexperienced Dom, and if one suggests any such practices without knowing you extremely well and first having engaged in more tame sexual activity with you over a significant period of time, that's a massive red flag.
how did u enjoy the experience of your former girlfriends ‘rape’ fetish? it’s really cool to hear about other people’s kinks and fetishes; sometimes i feel like mine are too strange or weird or fucked up. i’ve had plenty of fetishes like that. i enjoy writing erotica and smut on other platforms or just in my notes app that often involve those things. i’ve had plenty thoughts/desires of being drunk or drugged while played with.

also i really appreciate your advice with the bdsm culture. i was on a website awhile ago called FetLife and had a really hard time saying no to people or feeling like it’s not selfish to not reply to messages or whatever. something i have to work on
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Welcome, I love 1-8 boys and girls too. I just think they are so damn cute and special at that age. Bonus points if they are chubby. I hope we can be great friends.
can i ask how old u are and when u discovered ur feelings? and what is it that u like about that age? glad to meet u !
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18andconfused wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:00 pm
Welcome, I love 1-8 boys and girls too. I just think they are so damn cute and special at that age. Bonus points if they are chubby. I hope we can be great friends.
can i ask how old u are and when u discovered ur feelings? and what is it that u like about that age? glad to meet u !
I'm pushing 30 and I realised them when I was 13. I like their playfulness and curiosity. :)
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