Should people on the registry be allowed access to euthanasia?

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I was thinking about this earlier. And it seems there's no good argument for prohibiting it. If someone on the registry wants to die, most of society probably wants them to die, too. They've already completed their sentence, so despite facing punishment after punishment, they're not escaping any part of their sentence. They're merely opting to die with dignity.

Obviously mental health is a complicating factor, but in jurisdictions with euthanasia, persistent mental health conditions are considered reason enough to grant a request to die.

Having the option of escaping the cruelty of the registry, without having to pull the trigger yourself, dying in a dignified, properly planned way, seems to be a positive.


To go even darker (though this isn't in the poll), what about pedophiles more generally, including those that have never committed an offense?

[Outis]

I voted no because being on the registry is a discomfort with impacts but hardly the same as being in pain from a terminal illness which is the only scenario being considered for euthanasia. If it was allowed for people on the registry then it could be allowed for people in poverty which deprives access to some benefits, disabled people and many other groups. Given the choice of being on the registry or having a really impactful mental or physical disability I'd choose the registry. The registry is an obstacle to success and happiness but everyone has obstacles, some smaller, som bigger, the important thing is to overcome them and even use them as drivers to success and happiness.

Society wants you to suffer? Then be happy and succeed, that's the best way to show society the middle finger.

The police want to make your life unhappy? Be successful and smile that they're eeking a living on a crap wage with little gratitude.

Moon the world, repeat a daily mantra that you will be successful and happy, make small steps towards happiness and when you're over the hurdle then feel the sense of achievement. Can't get a job because you're on a register? Go self employed, do something really enjoyable, study, do something better.

[PorcelainLark]

Absolutely not. Partially for the same reason you restrict it in the case of the elderly: external pressure to make use of it. If it was legal, there's no doubt in my mind that there would be people who would prefer to live longer opt for it because of feeling like a burden on their family. Similar with people with disabilities. Or any "undesirable" element of society; homeless people, transgender people, etc. In practice, it becomes a defense of eugenics. I'd never be able to accept that in good conscience.

Also consider the effects on the medical system. You are allowing death to be permitted under the Hippocratic oath. That legitimizes the way those "Angels of Death" type killers think. It's opening Pandora's box to say death is compatible with the principle "First do no harm."

The suffering people experience as a result of being MAPs is wrong, pressuring them to die on top of it is another layer of wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. We shouldn't make injustice any easier than it already is.

[BLueRibbon]

Antis should definitely have access!

[Bookshelf]

Biggest concern would be that it could incentivize pressure to make the lives of those living on the registry worse. It'd be like a member of the KKK tormenting a black family, then offering a gun as an 'easy way out' of the suffering. The same people that would want us to use it are the people that want to put us on the registry in the first place. It'd be impossible to implement in a reasonable, fair and dignified way for that reason.

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It seems the result of not allowing a legal path to dignified death is that people will instead be found hanging from a light fitting instead.

Give me the needle, chosen willingly, surrounded by friends and family.

[OnionPetal]

Should people on the registry be allowed access to euthanasia?

You mean, should convicted MAPs kill themselves? Well that took a dark turn... From tolerance and social acceptance, to... assisted suicide. (Seriously, maybe we should focus on the social acceptance part, before sending MAPs to the gas chambers). If assisted suicide were made easily accessibly to registered MAPs, don't you think antis would do their best to drive those people to suicide?

[...] If it was allowed for people on the registry then it could be allowed for people in poverty which deprives access to some benefits, disabled people and many other groups. [...]

[...] feeling like a burden on their family. Similar with people with disabilities. Or any "undesirable" element of society; homeless people, transgender people, etc. [...]

This is my biggest fear regarding the expansion of assisted suicides... that governments will use it as a way to 'kill off' those who were failed by the system, so that they don't have to pay out support services for those most in need.

[Fragment]

Should people on the registry be allowed access to euthanasia?

You mean, should convicted MAPs kill themselves? Well that took a dark turn... From tolerance and social acceptance, to... assisted suicide. (Seriously, maybe we should focus on the social acceptance part, before sending MAPs to the gas chambers). If assisted suicide were made easily accessibly to registered MAPs, don't you think antis would do their best to drive those people to suicide?

If you look at my posts over the last few weeks, you'll see they're emotionally all over the place. I'm spitballing various ideas, and if my mood is dark, it'll be a dark idea.

Convicted MAPs already face a 180x times greater suicide rate than the general population. Would it be a greater dignity to die in a planned way, by needle, after getting social and financial affairs in order, or to die impulsively hanging from a tree?

Totally not related to my current situation at all. Just asking for a friend.

[OnionPetal]

[...] Totally not related to my current situation at all. Just asking for a friend.

Tell your friend I said that every life is valuable. And the world needs that love he's hiding inside himself. As awful as things are now, I know he will see better days.

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[...] Totally not related to my current situation at all. Just asking for a friend.

Tell your friend I said that every life is valuable. And the world needs that love he's hiding inside himself. As awful as things are now, I know he will see better days.

I'll let him know.

I think what he's been thinking is "people with a terminal illness (in countries with euthanasia) have the choice to shorten their suffering and bring their inevitable end a little closer, but how terminal is my situation? Sometimes that needle is the right choice, but how much suffering justifies it?"

Sex offender registries, especially when for life, are a terminal illness that cause lifelong suffering. I've never had a serious illness to be able to compare extreme physical suffering to extreme emotional, mental and social pain, but I think there is an equivalence.

If you support any kind of euthanasia, then I think the same option needs to be extended based not just on physical, but also emotional pain.

Though as a systematic thing, I guess the concerns raised about encouraging registrants to choose euthanasia becomes a big problem. I'd rather them rise up, revolt and start smashing police property. There's a million in the USA. If organized, they couldn't be ignored.