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Re: American MAPs should disown 'their' country

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:10 pm
by Puerto Lobos
Oh yeah for sure fuck the U.S.A. It's embarrassing that anyone could call themselves free but then turn a blind eye to the endless atrocities that the nation and so many others represent. I would truly hope that nobody would so attached to the propaganda that they have been fed that they would rather turn on their own community than deprogram themselves. Then again, the U.S.A. is the poster child for anti-intellectualism, meaning many citizens have been convinced that it's more important to feel right than actually research the truth and be right.

Agree that disowning the country doesn't do anything to the nation itself, but I still think it's a good exercise to speak up about these things because it's a good way to build a general willingness to speak out for injustice, and it often exposes the willfully ignorant members of the community so that they can hopefully be helped or at least not be put into positions where they are empowered to spread false narratives.

No issue is entirely isolated, if the community is suffering by in large by oppressive tactics of the government it doesn't really make a different if it's directly a product of prejudice against maps or not. It's still suffering and should be healed when possible.

Stop believing. Start learning. Deprogram your mind <3

Re: American MAPs should disown 'their' country

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:01 pm
by Artaxerxes II
Given how Trump has entered into a war with Iran, I don't think it would be wise to get American MAPs to publicly disown their own countries in forums available for public view, lest it gets taken by federal authorities as proof of sedition or grounds for monitoring over potential betrayal. America is a police state after all.

With that said, I agree with Ribbon in that MAPs should have no loyalty to the same post-WW2 liberal establishments in America and across the entire west to be frank, as these same liberal establishments are the ones that are responsible for modern pedophobia, its proliferation worldwide via the myriad of NGOs that they fund under the guise of child protectionism, and since the 1980s they've only gotten more repressive towards MAPs. I know Whig history sounds easy to digest, but MAPs would be better off by stop daydreaming about getting their needed Sorosbucks and EU aid and accept the cold reality: The liberal establishment would rather accept neo-nazis into their fold over MAPs at any given day.

https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?p=3998