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Re: AI map books on Amazon

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:20 pm
by Meiwaku_Mailing_Girl
mrlolicon93 wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:37 am
Meiwaku_Mailing_Girl wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:13 am
Unspeakable controlling the monster within by George Peters
I've met this author at the last B4U-ACT conference. I didn't get the impression he had used ai but I haven't read the book nor did he mention it.
Interesting if he didn't mention it how did you know it was him?

Did someone else say it was him?
He said he wrote it.

Re: AI map books on Amazon

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 9:50 am
by Outis
mrlolicon93 wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:33 pm
Outis wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:44 pm I don't have a problem with AI personally, I see it as a valuable tool. I mean when early Word Processors came out people hated them and said they'll kill the art of writing and literature but it didn't, it just saved authors time because they could edit and update texts. I think AI will be the same, it'll change how we created but it won't remove people from the creative process. I write code for a living and I find AI great for writing all the scaffolding code that takes so much time and it frees me to focus on the more complicated content and thinking about what needs to be built and how to structure it. We work as a team really, it does the time consuming stuff that it's good at and I focus on the bits I'm good at. I think for storywriting it'll be the same, AI will help to develop characters, scenes, research plot points, like if the killer did X then what clues might be left behind that the detective could find while ensuring they are realistic considering actual modern day forensics. But it'll be the human who moulds and writes much of the content, spins the story, chooses the twists. I actually started to write a story with AI help. I spend time with an AI working out a fictitious place, cast of characters, relationships, plot poinds, twists and got as far as a map of the chapters and would would happen in each. Then I got the AI to write the story chapter by chapter. Three chapters in I stopped because the story stank. The plot was good, all the storyboarding and research was really strong, but the story lacked depth. That's where the real author is needed.

But I do like the idea of stories that carry subtle messages that are positive towards maps. The whole reason I started that story was to create a story that didn't involve maps and wasn't about maps but warned of the dangers of targetting a group of people for hidden purposes of the state. It was to have some references back to the past (since it was set in the future) to today and how similar dark approaches were used targeting immigrants and people of sexualities such as minor attraction. The aim was first and foremost to tell a good story, secondary to get people to think about what is happening today towards maps in reference to the very different but related dark forces in the story.
You seem to forget that AI doesn't create stuff out of thin air it steals from stuff that already exist so you are plagiarizing works done by actual humans.
True but then isn't that what any human author does? I mean no author is writing a book without having read and been inspired by others, even Star Trek was inspired by Wagon Train and Gene Roddenberry described it as Wagon Train to the Stars. Most characters in books, most situations can be linked back to some prior work. The difference is humans are better at it than AI, the few AI books I've read have been pretty rubbish and I tend to choose books off reviews or books I've picked up at shows from the authors themselves running stands.