Re: Question for pro-c MAPs
Posted: Sun May 03, 2026 9:46 pm
There are two things I'd like to say about this.
Firstly, I had an adult sexual partner when I was 6, a family friend. It started with him being a good family friend who I liked and it eventually became a sexual relationship. I have happy memories of it although I enjoyed it too much and started to pursue him too much. One time I left home and went to his place which caused a storm at home. My parents were in a panic that I'd disappeared and he was in panic when I turned up at his house, I was missing him. Well he marched me home and he kept more distance from me after that so I would cool off. I very much consented and pursued his attention. I was masturbating around then but I remember it more clearly from the age of around 9 when I started to be more creative and use things like warm wet paper to try to simulate what a girls thing might feel like.
Secondly, as a parent, as any parent knows, kids can be very stubborn and have no problem telling you what they like, dislike, want, don't want, fear, hate, love etc. Whether it's eating their greens or going to visit their auntie with the smelly house, they will clearly say what they want and it's a battle getting them to consent. Eat your greens and you can have ice cream after or come to your aunties because she has a gift for you and she's unwell and really wants to see you. Kids have strong wills, can express themselves clearly, can be stubborn. Kids consent to many things and have the mental capacity to reason and consent to these things. The idea that somehow when it comes to physical connection they suddenly lose that makes no sense. Food, drink, shelter, connection, sex, bonding, these are all basic human experiences and needs, we are literally built for them. There's nothing mystical about sex, it isn't a divine act, there's no magic required, it's a basic and natural act that is fun and pleasurable.
When my wife gave birth to her first daughter, by the age of 3 we were in a panic when she started to masturbate, a lot. We went to get advice and was surprised to learn that it's normal, many if not most kids do it. They touch themselves, discover it's pleasurable and so keep doing it. The advice was to talk to her and tell her to only do that alone in her room, so we did.
A few years later, around 5, she would sometimes have friends visit and she'd suddenly announce that she wanted them to leave. It turned out she needed to masturbate and so she wanted them to go so she could. So not the perfect solution but the best of all options. The reality is that kids are sexual, they play with themselves, play experiment with other kids because you're hardly able to talk to adults about it. Kids are left to just muddle through it all because it's too taboo to talk about but the reality is that kids are sexual, I don't think any expert argues against that.
The sole argument I see being made is that maps can take advantage of kids sexuality but I don't think they do. Most sexual abuse isn't by maps, because maps have empathy for kids. When a map has a sexual relationships it's much more mutual, like I experienced as a kid and I only have happy memories of that time.
Firstly, I had an adult sexual partner when I was 6, a family friend. It started with him being a good family friend who I liked and it eventually became a sexual relationship. I have happy memories of it although I enjoyed it too much and started to pursue him too much. One time I left home and went to his place which caused a storm at home. My parents were in a panic that I'd disappeared and he was in panic when I turned up at his house, I was missing him. Well he marched me home and he kept more distance from me after that so I would cool off. I very much consented and pursued his attention. I was masturbating around then but I remember it more clearly from the age of around 9 when I started to be more creative and use things like warm wet paper to try to simulate what a girls thing might feel like.
Secondly, as a parent, as any parent knows, kids can be very stubborn and have no problem telling you what they like, dislike, want, don't want, fear, hate, love etc. Whether it's eating their greens or going to visit their auntie with the smelly house, they will clearly say what they want and it's a battle getting them to consent. Eat your greens and you can have ice cream after or come to your aunties because she has a gift for you and she's unwell and really wants to see you. Kids have strong wills, can express themselves clearly, can be stubborn. Kids consent to many things and have the mental capacity to reason and consent to these things. The idea that somehow when it comes to physical connection they suddenly lose that makes no sense. Food, drink, shelter, connection, sex, bonding, these are all basic human experiences and needs, we are literally built for them. There's nothing mystical about sex, it isn't a divine act, there's no magic required, it's a basic and natural act that is fun and pleasurable.
When my wife gave birth to her first daughter, by the age of 3 we were in a panic when she started to masturbate, a lot. We went to get advice and was surprised to learn that it's normal, many if not most kids do it. They touch themselves, discover it's pleasurable and so keep doing it. The advice was to talk to her and tell her to only do that alone in her room, so we did.
A few years later, around 5, she would sometimes have friends visit and she'd suddenly announce that she wanted them to leave. It turned out she needed to masturbate and so she wanted them to go so she could. So not the perfect solution but the best of all options. The reality is that kids are sexual, they play with themselves, play experiment with other kids because you're hardly able to talk to adults about it. Kids are left to just muddle through it all because it's too taboo to talk about but the reality is that kids are sexual, I don't think any expert argues against that.
The sole argument I see being made is that maps can take advantage of kids sexuality but I don't think they do. Most sexual abuse isn't by maps, because maps have empathy for kids. When a map has a sexual relationships it's much more mutual, like I experienced as a kid and I only have happy memories of that time.