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Some really shocking news: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 03813.html

Apparently, Prosper was planning a school shooting, but was thankfully stopped before he could carry out the attack. We were not aware of this when posting our article. We'll talk internally about how to respond to this news.

I want to reiterate that carrying out mass murder is not beneficial to our community and its goals, and targeting children who have nothing to do with MAP hysteria is unarguably wrong. However, the UK needs to accept that it is not offering the support that young MAPs need. Instead, it is torturing MAPs with a relentless barrage of hateful messaging and legislation that makes life for its MAP citizens close to unbearable. Sadly, I suspect that rather than being introspective about the ways in which they are incubating potential extremism, the British government and media will instead choose to exacerbate the problem by further promoting the belief that MAPs are all nefarious sadists, using this story as ammunition.

BLueRibbon wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:21 am Some really shocking news: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 03813.html

Apparently, Prosper was planning a school shooting, but was thankfully stopped before he could carry out the attack. We were not aware of this when posting our article. We'll talk internally about how to respond to this news.

“We cannot ever begin to comprehend why someone would plan to kill innocent children and are so grateful to those arresting officers who helped prevent this from taking place.”

It could be an angel of mercy type of motivation. Imagining himself to be sparing children of suffering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_ ... iminology)

I want to reiterate that carrying out mass murder is not beneficial to our community and its goals, and targeting children who have nothing to do with MAP hysteria is unarguably wrong. However, the UK needs to accept that it is not offering the support that young MAPs need. Instead, it is torturing MAPs with a relentless barrage of hateful messaging and legislation that makes life for its MAP citizens close to unbearable. Sadly, I suspect that rather than being introspective about the ways in which they are incubating potential extremism, the British government and media will instead choose to exacerbate the problem by further promoting the belief that MAPs are all nefarious sadists, using this story as ammunition.

There's only so much the government and media can do to address these problems given the intense hostility of the general public towards MAPs, even if they had the will to do so.

PorcelainLark wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:03 am

I want to reiterate that carrying out mass murder is not beneficial to our community and its goals, and targeting children who have nothing to do with MAP hysteria is unarguably wrong. However, the UK needs to accept that it is not offering the support that young MAPs need. Instead, it is torturing MAPs with a relentless barrage of hateful messaging and legislation that makes life for its MAP citizens close to unbearable. Sadly, I suspect that rather than being introspective about the ways in which they are incubating potential extremism, the British government and media will instead choose to exacerbate the problem by further promoting the belief that MAPs are all nefarious sadists, using this story as ammunition.

There's only so much the government and media can do to address these problems given the intense hostility of the general public towards MAPs, even if they had the will to do so.

The British media could start by at least reporting some of the fairly mild comments I send them in response to UK news stories.

Silencing and ignoring people is not a good plan. We could see from our original research that it frustrated Prosper, who had a lot to say but no real platform for expressing his views. It's a shame the MAP community couldn't help him before he almost shot up a school, but it's hard when the authorities and general public force us to be anonymous and paranoid.

PorcelainLark wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:03 am

“We cannot ever begin to comprehend why someone would plan to kill innocent children and are so grateful to those arresting officers who helped prevent this from taking place.”

It could be an angel of mercy type of motivation. Imagining himself to be sparing children of suffering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_ ... iminology)

Possibly, but it's also just as likely that he was in pain and wanted to inflict as much pain on others as he could.

Whatever your sexuality, targeting kids is the best way to cause pain to society, at large.

We've published a clarification and partial retraction in light of the recent news of Prosper's plan to attack a school.

https://www.map-union.org/blog/news-nic ... d-violence

Interesting how I knew this guy on Twitter. We interacted a few times. Maybe I'll write a blog piece about my feelings regarding this situation someday.

My recollection is that he was banned from a chatserver for being disruptive. Supposedly at some later date he became more established under a different name, but was widely considered to be mentally unstable and not seeking help.

It's hard to tell if anything could have been done re. counter-extremism intervention. There are no prizes for deradicalizing potential mass killers.

BLueRibbon wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:14 am This won't be a popular take, but I blame this primarily on the oppression of MAPs, not the individual. I feel very sorry for him.

It was an awful act of familial violence, but what are MAPs supposed to do during a mental health crisis when they have nowhere safe to go?

This will no doubt be the first of many horrific cases if countries like the UK continue to Hunt and Push MAPs to the brink.

Social attitudes need reforming ASAP!

This is NOT a direct response to the above. My heart goes out to you all about this sad reality. As a teenager I too was caught up in this difficulty. Luckily i found an outlet in sports. And escaping the city.

Okay, so this is more of a response to reading over some more of the articles around "the push".

i still don't "get" what "the push" is, unless you're talking about the social pressure built up to vent all of the citizens' pain out on a trotted out scapegoat?

What "jumped out" at me the most was how domesticated folks are...i take it, in the context of a large urban area? And, somehow, you don't GIVE YOURSELVES PERMISSION (?) to gather in some CREATIVE way??? Anarchists meet in "knitting circles" and the like, to parody the stereotype that follows folks around. Maybe you all can tap into your creative intelligence (i.e. let your YFs teach you, if you've gotten too cynical!) more than usual, now?


You COULD be mental health assistants WITH EACH OTHER. Like "peer counseling". That is, amongst groanups who are not convicts. Amongst convicts, i don't know what the confines are, so can't comment. For kids, well, why not have an indirect circle, where your group meets thinking about the youth and offering diverse inputs, then at least the dude would feel, wow, look at all the people who are TAKING THE TIME to CARE!!!!!

It really comes down to, as i see it, how deep is your creativity? And your nerve, of course.


Or is the UK so much of a police state that such avenues seem already closed/impossible??

Well, there are lots of ways to deal, tho i don't know Europe/UK's constraints well. But there are lots of free festivals, i'm sure. Get them involved in something exhileratingly liberating, but still stay in touch with them!

And "Brainstorm" with them creatively, for how they might engage people (i.e. an adult YF friend of mine and i used to go around passing out crumpled up paper flyers that had a humorous bent but still said what we so WANTED to speak!) Or you could have such youths leaving depth around....properly articulated!!

Or is the invasive spy cams thing i heard about now being put inside people's family homes why everyone feels so overwhelmed?

i have no idea what such folks are dealing with. But perhaps i can assist in some way in dreaming up solutions?

These young people, as well as older people, NEED SOME FORM of MEANINGFUL outlet. And they can't wait around for some specialist to show up! They need to take their power into their own hands and experiment with their risk-taking, and yet remain within the terroristic fLaws!! Right? So these creative means have ways to give that pent-up anger (especially difficult for men whom are generally being socialized for war/soldierdumb) a CRUCIAL OUTLET!!