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Re: Message from Nelson Maatman

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 10:03 pm
by BLueRibbon
Do you accept donations via snail mail or Monero? I think many people would be more comfortable with those options.

Re: Message from Nelson Maatman

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:27 pm
by Lennon72
I would like to know more about his situation. I think O know who this is but need to know for sure.

Re: Message from Nelson Maatman

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 12:12 am
by HumanBeing
Dean wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 5:38 pm
BLueRibbon wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 10:03 pm Do you accept donations via snail mail or Monero? I think many people would be more comfortable with those options.
I'd need somebody to hold the Monero wallet, and send it through transfer or cash from there. Snail mail is definitely an option, just need to make sure it's not noticable from the outside of the letter or package.

Sending stuff, food or cash, addressed to Nelson to his embassy:
Embajada del Reino de los Paises Bajos
t.a.v. Nelson Maatman
Volcán 150, 2nd floor, Qúbica Building Col. Lomas de Chapultepec, CP 11000, Mexico City Mexico
I thought about creating a wallet for Nelson around 2024, although in the end I didn't do it due to a lack of knowledge about cryptocurrencies. If someone could help me create a wallet for Nelson it would be a great help.

Re: Message from Nelson Maatman

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:43 am
by Lennon72
Oh, wow. That sounds pretty bad. I would like to read whet he wrote but I do not know Dutch.

Re: Message from Nelson Maatman

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:44 am
by BLueRibbon
Here's my honest opinion.

The main reason Nelson is not receiving donations is because people are nervous about sending donations, not because they're unwilling to spare a few dollars for a politically imprisoned supporter of MAPs.

There needs to be a PO Box that can receive donations, not an embassy address for a country where you more or less state that donations will be pilfered by postal officers unless the cash is carefully concealed.

A bank account owned by... someone?... is also unlikely to be trusted.

How can you offer a safe way for people to send money without compromising yourself in the process? That is the key question.

I'm posting this not out of aggression - as your efforts are laudable - but to hopefully help somewhat.

Re: Message from Nelson Maatman

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:17 am
by BLueRibbon
Dean wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:49 pm
BLueRibbon wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:44 am Here's my honest opinion.

The main reason Nelson is not receiving donations is because people are nervous about sending donations, not because they're unwilling to spare a few dollars for a politically imprisoned supporter of MAPs.

There needs to be a PO Box that can receive donations, not an embassy address for a country where you more or less state that donations will be pilfered by postal officers unless the cash is carefully concealed.

A bank account owned by... someone?... is also unlikely to be trusted.

How can you offer a safe way for people to send money without compromising yourself in the process? That is the key question.

I'm posting this not out of aggression - as your efforts are laudable - but to hopefully help somewhat.
Uhhm, that's literary any country? Okay, who's going to set that up? Nelson? That's the damn problem. You know there is a billion times bigger chance that they'll find you for visiting this site, even on TOR fully protected by tails, sitting in McDonald's across the state using their WiFi, than that they try to track you trough an anominous cash transfer to the girlfriend of some Cartel dude that even Nelson doesn't know. There's about 50 Americans using those accounts the same way. There exist no safer way, not even freaking Cryptocurrencies.


It's not even fear or paranoid, it's a complete lack of security knowledge. Anyway, better chance finding a publisher or literary agent for Nelson than a useful MAP I guess. Maybe he can use the money he makes himself to break out or something, because a trial he'll never get if nobody cares.
I'm sorry I upset you, but you need to understand that the main reason Nelson isn't receiving donations is not that MAPs are unwilling to part with a few dollars. It's that we have a very justifiable paranoia of a knock on the door, and the options you're offering are simply not secure enough.

Your efforts to help Nelson are worthy of praise, but you need to put yourself in our position. We don't want to get outed, and the suggested solutions are a bit scary to the vast majority of our community. Hearing that the in-between would be a Cartel money mule doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Re: Message from Nelson Maatman

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:43 pm
by PorcelainLark
I remember when I was younger I was scared of having anything to do with crypto currency because I felt like it was associated with illegal activities. I wonder if that's part of the reservation he has?