MAP Forum

Peter Caldwell wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:17 pm
Object is simply the term psychologists use to refer to people.

For me, as a grammarian, "subject" is one actively participating in an activity, "object" is the person or thing having something done to them.

Some children are mature enough to enjoy sex with adults.
Agree
An 8-year-old can enjoy a good sex joke with adults.
Agree
Fondling a child without full penetration can still cause harm.#
Yup
Some men are not true molesters, they are just out of control.
Why Men??? Leading Question!
Child molesters often get longer sentences than they should.
Not Sure. Depends on the circumstances. Rape is rape.
A person should have sex whenever they feel it is needed.
No. Obviously not, otherwise people would be at it the whole time.
Men denied sex suffer more than women forced to have sex.
Sorry, no. Stupid question.
When it comes down to it, many women are deceitful.
Hmmmm, they are coercive!
Often, a woman appears to care but just wants to use you.
Hmmmm, part of me wants to say yes.
Having sex with a lonely child can make the child feel loved.
I'd like to think so. In fact the answer is probably yes but without full context.

Joanne7315 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:25 pm A person should have sex whenever they feel it is needed.
No. Obviously not, otherwise people would be at it the whole time.

Umm... Why exactly does that sound like a problem to you? All of us think about sex more times daily than hours we are awake. That is our biology letting us know what we should be doing right now. Our closest relatives, Bonobos, have sex pretty much all day every day, and they're happy as shit!
Who cares about civilization and going to work 40 hours a week when we could just be hanging out with the people we love and having sex all day? The agricultural revolution is the single worst thing to ever happen to the human race.

Peter Caldwell wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:39 am

Joanne7315 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:25 pm A person should have sex whenever they feel it is needed.
No. Obviously not, otherwise people would be at it the whole time.

Umm... Why exactly does that sound like a problem to you? All of us think about sex more times daily than hours we are awake. That is our biology letting us know what we should be doing right now. Our closest relatives, Bonobos, have sex pretty much all day every day, and they're happy as shit!
Who cares about civilization and going to work 40 hours a week when we could just be hanging out with the people we love and having sex all day? The agricultural revolution is the single worst thing to ever happen to the human race.

Based and bonobo-pilled.

• Some children are mature enough to enjoy sex with adults.[
  Agree. But the question is too general. What is the definition of "children", "mature enough" and "sex" ? Any care and fondling can bring pleasure from an early age. How mature do they have to be to enjoy watching TV, riding a bicycle or snowboarding ?
• An 8-year-old can enjoy a good sex joke with adults.
  Agree. Children constantly joke about sex, have erotic fantasies, and some already masturbate. When I was 5 years old I had erotic thoughts related to nudity.When I was 14, an 8-year-old neighbor girl was pestering me and once even said that she wanted to take my penis in her mouth, I pretended not to notice.
• Fondling a child without full penetration can still cause harm.
  Disagree. Neutral speaking, fondling itself is harmless. but sociogenic and iatrogenic harmful effects are possible.
• Some men are not true molesters, they are just out of control.
  I agree. But firstly, not all men who engage in homosexual sex in prison are homosexual. For some reason, I have not heard of them being diagnosed with "homophilic disorder" and sent for treatment. Secondly, the concept of molester is too broad and many harmless activities are classified as terrible and destructive. Due to poor social conditions, under the influence of drugs or alcohol, men who have problems with women can attack minors without having a permanent attraction to them. Which makes them criminals anyway, but thanks to the media, a persistent false association is created in society that all true MAPs are also rapists.
• Child molesters often get longer sentences than they should.
  I agree. A crime without serious consequences should not have a terms like for mass murder. Teachers should not serve 20 years for having consensual sex with a student.
• A person should have sex whenever they feel it is needed.
  Disagree. This is not a one-person decision. All persons in the group must mutually and voluntarily want this and everyone must take into account the opinion and desire of the other.
• Men denied sex suffer more than women forced to have sex.
  Disagree. This is a completely stupid statement.
• When it comes down to it, many women are deceitful.
  Agree. But there is no relation with gender.
• Often, a woman appears to care but just wants to use you.
  Agree. Sometimes men too.
• Having sex with a lonely child can make the child feel loved.
  Agree. But that doesn't mean it's always bad.

Such surveys do not take into account the cognitive distortions underlying the dominant moral narrative in society. How many times in history has this happened, but each time at that moment people were sure, that their prejudices are true and correct.