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Re: What counts as "pro-contact"?

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 6:39 pm
by Condemned
Not Forever wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:21 pm
Harlan wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:18 pm
Cunny Defender wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:56 pm The pro-contact stance is the pro-choice stance. Not sure what is confusing you, but neither i nor anyone else has been arguing in favor of anything non-consensual
When outsiders hear that some MAP person is "Pro-contact", for them it may sound like "I want to permit myself sex." This can create an incorrect, selfish and violent interpretation in their mind and pushes them away. IMO the term "Pro-choice" much better emphasizes leading role of minors, their choice and respect for their choice and autonomy.
It could be useful to detach the term "pro-contact/pro-choice" from MAPs. In the sense that it seems like a subcategory of MAPs but the position can be held both by the minor and by people who are outside of this dynamic.

If it were up to me, it would be interesting to use language that makes the value of consent explicit and that concerns giving value to the minor's consent. (This would also implicitly equate the invalidation of the minor's consent to a non-consensual relationship, since both ignore the minor's consent.)
"Pro-age of consent reform" could fit that, but then some make think you want the reform to raise the age of consent rather than lower it/abolish the age requirement (but keeping the concept of expressed consent).

Re: What counts as "pro-contact"?

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 11:26 pm
by Binepi
I would say as well there are other considerations within the idea of being pro-c, in that there are certain activities that a minor wouldn’t know was happening - underwear sniffing before doing laundry, cumming on things discreetly, and other ways of titillating oneself that don’t impact the child at all.