What do you think about what's happened to AllTheFallen?

[PorcelainLark]

I think the country in East Asia that has the greatest hope of legalizing MAP is Japan. And no matter what, the theory that truly and systematically supports MAP also comes from the West, which cannot be denied in any way. So I think the attitude of European and American liberals is indeed very important.

I'd like to pin my hopes on Japan, but I heard that the reason for the legality of lolicon was because of the conservatism of the legal system. My fear is that they'll end up aping the West as it currently is because of their conservatism.

I pin my hopes on persuading liberals in the West. I feel, like with trans rights, where the West goes, other cultures eventually follow. So if you convince liberals/progressives in the West, sooner or later other countries will make similar adoptions. I can't think of an example of it happening in the opposite direction (i.e. a non-Western country concern with human rights to the point that it leads to changes in other countries).

[TheOtherKindofPride]

I'd like to pin my hopes on Japan, but I heard that the reason for the legality of lolicon was because of the conservatism of the legal system. My fear is that they'll end up aping the West as it currently is because of their conservatism.

I pin my hopes on persuading liberals in the West. I feel, like with trans rights, where the West goes, other cultures eventually follow. So if you convince liberals/progressives in the West, sooner or later other countries will make similar adoptions. I can't think of an example of it happening in the opposite direction (i.e. a non-Western country concern with human rights to the point that it leads to changes in other countries).

From what I've seen, the left is as hateful towards Lolicons and pedophilia as any other political extremist. I absolutely would not rely on them to be the saviors of lolicon. it would be like Relying on batman to actually solve the root cause of criminal activity. He's to busy uppercutting people directly into jail cells to fight poverty and inequality in Gotham.
Proper centrists are the closest things to unbiased truth seekers left tin the world, as rare as they are nowadays. People who make it their personal identity to fight for the rights of non-white, non-straight, non-cis folk usually don't care for "degenerate" pedophiles, which is what they consider all lolicons to be too. It's exceedingly rare to find a pro-lolicon leftist like Fallen Shadow or Bungo Taiga. those are the only two I know of anyways.