Re: Effectiveness and possible negative results [about disruptive activism]
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2026 4:57 am
Seems to me that people who do this sort of thing are often coming from experiencing (i.e. reading) terrible news and scary info that the MAP vanguard puts out --in order to influence the rise of some momentum. And their intuition leads them on a VENTING process! Not forever stuck in such, IF they are adequately affirmed and honored for their uncanny (?) persistence!!
Along the lines of the idea of "protection via strategies of Restriction" (aristocratic-stuck value) vs the idea of "protection via strategies of Enrichment"! And i'm advocating the seemingly tougher choice of enrichment, which i see has longterm validity, but which may not be often taught in hi'f'lutin institutions of alleged Merit.
So i'm more on the same page with the late critical psychiatrist, R.D.Laing, where he promoted that Crazy people be facilitated in their PROCESS, their Journey of becoming awareness (of self and etc.), rather than suppressed (and then allowing the uncritical entrance of 'Public Relations' manipulation OVER each of our valid and powerful, but perhaps "perfectly imperfect" cammo!!
Beyond the Nice class, for instance, some people can only begin to trust you after they have some sort of INTENSITY with you. Like physicality in some way. They may not be able to articulate themselves intellectually so much, so they opt for what they find most meaningful.
To work to suppress these tendencies, for the god of Public Relations (and allegedly "obtaining a bigger, more meaningful audience"), is, i think, to do the work of the political police for them (anyone recall similar sentiment appearing in the film "Matewan"?).
Bottom line, i think these are class-challenged assumptions being pushed in aristocratic-centric psychology! They "work" in some ways (so-called "efficiently") in short runs, but in the long run do not build up the necessary OOMPH needed for SUSTAINABILITY!
Thus, all of the academic-heavy groups in Europe and the USA (and Canada?) have floundered around. And often petered out, especially when out-flanked by those that their "Good Education" taught them to Trust! (i.e. the police)
Kind of like the gay Mattachine Society before the Gay Liberation Front came into the scene (or which the Mattachine recognized the value of finally listening to). The 'diversity of tactics' is key, and many of us, still reeling from waking up to reality, are largely self-taught and/or on the fringes, finding value in exploring beyond the "normative" ideological 'corrals' for various GOOD REASONS, as well as not so good reasons (i.e. our being unable to listen to the "petty bourgeois" since many in that attitude resemble the authoritarian or manipulative parents we grew up with, etc.).
So i think it CRUCIAL that we characterized as "disruptive" (i was) are the proverbial "Ugly Ducklings" soon to become, if allowed liberation by those privileged to be "better placed" socially, *Beautiful Swans* in that old story!! (Think of it this way, how shall you practice for facilitating and empowering kids if you're STUCK in the Assumption that anything outside of your purview is Disruptive and otherwise invalid??)
But perhaps i'm missing something crucial?
Along the lines of the idea of "protection via strategies of Restriction" (aristocratic-stuck value) vs the idea of "protection via strategies of Enrichment"! And i'm advocating the seemingly tougher choice of enrichment, which i see has longterm validity, but which may not be often taught in hi'f'lutin institutions of alleged Merit.
So i'm more on the same page with the late critical psychiatrist, R.D.Laing, where he promoted that Crazy people be facilitated in their PROCESS, their Journey of becoming awareness (of self and etc.), rather than suppressed (and then allowing the uncritical entrance of 'Public Relations' manipulation OVER each of our valid and powerful, but perhaps "perfectly imperfect" cammo!!
Beyond the Nice class, for instance, some people can only begin to trust you after they have some sort of INTENSITY with you. Like physicality in some way. They may not be able to articulate themselves intellectually so much, so they opt for what they find most meaningful.
To work to suppress these tendencies, for the god of Public Relations (and allegedly "obtaining a bigger, more meaningful audience"), is, i think, to do the work of the political police for them (anyone recall similar sentiment appearing in the film "Matewan"?).
Bottom line, i think these are class-challenged assumptions being pushed in aristocratic-centric psychology! They "work" in some ways (so-called "efficiently") in short runs, but in the long run do not build up the necessary OOMPH needed for SUSTAINABILITY!
Thus, all of the academic-heavy groups in Europe and the USA (and Canada?) have floundered around. And often petered out, especially when out-flanked by those that their "Good Education" taught them to Trust! (i.e. the police)
Kind of like the gay Mattachine Society before the Gay Liberation Front came into the scene (or which the Mattachine recognized the value of finally listening to). The 'diversity of tactics' is key, and many of us, still reeling from waking up to reality, are largely self-taught and/or on the fringes, finding value in exploring beyond the "normative" ideological 'corrals' for various GOOD REASONS, as well as not so good reasons (i.e. our being unable to listen to the "petty bourgeois" since many in that attitude resemble the authoritarian or manipulative parents we grew up with, etc.).
So i think it CRUCIAL that we characterized as "disruptive" (i was) are the proverbial "Ugly Ducklings" soon to become, if allowed liberation by those privileged to be "better placed" socially, *Beautiful Swans* in that old story!! (Think of it this way, how shall you practice for facilitating and empowering kids if you're STUCK in the Assumption that anything outside of your purview is Disruptive and otherwise invalid??)
But perhaps i'm missing something crucial?