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Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 8:41 am
by Outis
Over the years my views on this have changed.

I used to think that the term pedophile was burned and conjured up too many negative connotations so I was pro the idea of migrating to the term MAP.
But over recent years I've started to think that was and remains a mistake.

Here's why.

Firstly, the term MAP (Minor Attracted Person) is too focused on attraction and doesn't encompass anything else such as love, respect, feelings of equality in some ways. It boils down the sexual orientation to just attraction. For me, sure there's attraction, but this sexual orientation is much more than that. Pedophile as in the original meaning of the term is a much more accurate description since it encompasses all of that. Pedophile as in child friend or child lover is not just focused on sexual attraction. So the term pedophile is easier to defend by focusing on the definition and meaning of pedophile.

Secondly, this whole rebranding to a new term can create an impression of shape shifting, trying to rebrand to avoid the question and slip under the radar rather than defend the position. If I say I'm a MAP and not a Pedophile, what does that actually mean? If I say to someone I'm a MAP and they say to me isn't that the same thing as a pedophile, how do I respond to that?

I think a much better approach would be to double down on what the term pedophile means as a term distinct to predator. Pull in history, acedmic research, a pedophile is not and never has been something to fear any more than gay or straight is. Predators of all types are something to fear.

Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:46 am
by Fragment
I'm not a pedophile, and using "hebephile" makes it sound like I'm trying to split hairs. I am a BL, though.

I still like using "MAP" as the community name, with individual markers for us based on specific attraction.

One sponsored conference featured breakout session for 'minor attracted individuals'

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:20 pm
by Jim Burton
"Professionals and parents continue to use myths and misunderstandings as the base of decisions on problematic and illegal sexual behavior of children and adolescents," the symposium's website reads. "Adults worry about addressing sexual topics, and yet youth continue to be inundated with graphic sexual images and messages."

"We need to better equip professionals and parents to understand and support healthy sexual development and to identify problematic sexual behavior early and intervene with all children and caregivers impacted," the description continues.

One breakout session at the conference focused on "The Help-Wanted Prevention Intervention for Minor Attracted Individuals," a euphemism for pedophiles.
https://www.wnd.com/2025/04/pregnant-bo ... tq-grants/

Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:51 pm
by Jim Burton
There has been a lot of controversy in NZ about a green party MP who represents "rainbow children" and ran an undercover account where he used the word "bussy". But this mainly looks like mainstream gay behaviour.

Press and influencers desperately dropping the MAP bomb at every opportunity.

https://centrist.nz/mainstream-media-cl ... backfires/

Re: One sponsored conference featured breakout session for 'minor attracted individuals'

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:51 pm
by Fragment
euphemism

Re: One sponsored conference featured breakout session for 'minor attracted individuals'

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 4:17 pm
by PorcelainLark
One breakout session at the conference focused on "The Help-Wanted Prevention Intervention for Minor Attracted Individuals," a euphemism for pedophiles.
Euphemism. As though "pedophile" is a neutral term. I don't get how anyone can deny the word lumps together sexual abusers of children and those who don't. Even if you believe every CS abuser deserves the most severe treatment, and every MAP has or will sexually abuse children, how is trying to distinguish the attraction euphemistic?

Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:05 pm
by Jim Burton
The story has attracted millions of impressions on social media and dragged on for over a week now, with multiple news stories.

There was a previous controversy in NZ over a high profile gay politician following a teen BL account on Instagram.

https://www.rebelnews.com/nz_politician ... am_account

Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:01 pm
by Jim Burton
Reddit cringe warrior is going after "foal fiddlers" on Tumblr.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringePurgator ... ?rdt=51766

Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:22 pm
by WavesInEternity
OK that made me giggle...

The comments by "Haemophilia_Type_A" are the only ones that make sense. This one, sadly, has 0 upvotes:
Who cares about being 'weird' as long as you're not hurting anyone? It's immature to care so much about being normal that you'd stop enjoying things that make you happy just because other people might judge you for it.

I don't like the show in question, but I'll be damned if I'll let social norms stop me enjoying the things that I enjoy even if they're "weird".
I rewatched the entire first season of Pokémon—in the original Japanese—at ~26. Letting society dictate what age is appropriate to enjoy some given art is nonsensical. The appreciation of art should transcend all ages, all cultures, all epochs. Alice's Adventures In Wonderland was originally written as a children's book (by a man who was most likely a GL). The idea that "children" and "adults" should more or less exist in two separate "worlds" is one of the great tragedies of our contemporary world.

As for that silly concept of "degeneracy" frequently brought up in that Reddit thread, I've got so much to say about it that it deserves its own post and its own thread... eventually.

Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 7:45 pm
by Jim Burton
Anna Slatz on relentless pursuit of a guy who sold dolls:

https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1918057085910106123

Also, I think Todd Nickerson had one of his interviews recycled on X.