Antis confusing views on “CSA” and “hebephillia” and “ephebophillia”
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:13 pm
Unlike pedophillia, antis refuse to categorize hebephillia and ephebophillia as a mental illness, but claim that the affects of preteen-adult, teenage-adult sex is just as bad as prepubescent-adult sex, but they(mainly male antis) will also claim that attraction to preteens and teenagers is biologically and evolutionary valid.(Some antis will also say that an attraction to preteen and teenage girls is also rare and that most men are attracted to “fully grown” adults, but they are the same ones who accuse men of being “pdfs” at the drop of a hat and complain about how common minor attraction is).This is where the antis logic gets confusing.
Human evolutionary standards when it comes to reproduction and child rearing are extremely important. Reproduction and the rearing of children is one of, if not, the most important parts in every species (including humans), as without it (or with extremely unsuccessful and “traumatizing” versions of it) the species ends. In a species as successful as ours, to the point of becoming the most dominating species on the planet, hardwiring a trait that will produce such an impactful amount of “severely traumatized and broken” potential mates and primary caregivers makes zero sense for any species, especially ones as sexually inclined as ours.
We are supposed to believe that attraction to preteens, or at least teenagers is extremely common and genetically hard wired in at least males for the sake of successful reproduction and child rearing, that puberty is a time of sexual maturity that all mammals go through in some way, shape, or form, to become CAPABLE of producing and rearing offspring. I said producing AND REARING, because in no species, at least in species where the offspring is also raised by their primary caregiver, are the females of the species capable of reproducing without also being capable of talking care of them selves and their offspring. It may be slightly more difficult to raise offspring for first time mothers, but that isnt intrinsic to age, and in social species, the new mothers are typically helped and guided by older females.
We are also supposed to believe that if a young female has sex, especially with an adult, and GOOOD FOOORBIIIDDD, gets pregnant(which she has been evolutionarily programed to do after hundreds of thousands of years of human development) before the recent arbitrary manmade number we pulled out of our ass a century or two ago, especially with an “adult”, she will be so physically ruined by the ordeal that she will barely be able to carry the baby, much less give birth, and she will be so “traumatized” and “mentally underdeveloped” that she will be completely incapable of taking care of herself, let alone another child. That hundreds of thousands of years of evolution has, unlike any other sexually reproductive species, programed its young females to be capable of reproduction, yet so “traumatized” and “underdeveloped” that they are completely incapable of taking care of themselves, barely capable of giving birth(the very thing that their body just spent valuable time and energy to program them to do via reaching sexual maturity), and completely incapable of raising their own offspring.
We are supposed to believe that unlike literally every other species ever, nature programed its females to reach sexual maturity, and the majority of its males to be attracted to females who have at least reached sexual maturity, but if ever the two shall intertwine the female will be incapable of doing the very thing they just went through sexual maturity for the sole purpose of doing.
Even nepipedophillia. In our closest species, such as chimpanzees and bonobos, they dgaf about age or sexual maturity stages and will fuck whomstever. Mother bonobos sucking baby bonobo dick, chimpanzees fucking prepubscent chimpangirls, yet these species seem to be more than capable of reproducing and giving birth, socially bonding with each other, and living in harmony.
Of course, those are animals, not humans, so not a perfect comparsion. But we also have native tribes as living proof. There has been absolutely ZERO native tribe, at least before western colonization, with an age of consent, or at the very least, one so high above a male or females reaching of sexual maturity. No native girls or boys receiving irreparable life long mental scarring from sex play, no teenage natives suffering from nightmares from seeing the sexual organs of their older peers. An anti may claim that seeing breasts wasnt/isnt scarring for native children because they werent/arent “sExuALiZEd” but sexual organs, which are by definition, “sExuAlIzEd” by their very nature, also come with a significant lack of “trauma” to children growing up in native colonies. Yes, despite the anti claims that even seeing an erect adult penis will ruin a child for life, these native tribes seem to be doing quite well for themselves, living in harmony with both each other and natives, and actually tend to do far worse once colonizers try to “fix” their “barbaric” and “harmful” ways by forcing them to cover up and remove their “sExuAliZing” practices from their culture.
In fact, such dramatic negative reactions and “trauma” seem to only arrive in societys where the very idea of sex itself is shamed heavily and safegaurded from their youth and the public in general. Coincidentally, it seems that in only the Pure Western nations and the countries they force into following their standards seems to be non barbaric and “good” enough to fight against the evils of CSA. A very strange coincidence indeed.
Side note, once you have reached sexual maturity(producing sperm, getting a period), you are biologically an adult. Yes there will continue to be changes after spermarche and menarche, such as increased breast growth and voice deepening, but the human body NEVER stops changing and growing, EVER. Thats how people get taller or shorter, thats how people develop conditions like arthritis and muscle pain, thats how people loose their teeth and their hair and eventually begin to sag. The human brain never stops “developing”. Your brain continues to change after the age of 25, thats how people make new memories, thats how people learn new skills and make new friends, thats how people get dementia. There is no final stage of human growth, no “full devlopment” we arent pokemon. Either your body and brain are growing and changing, as you are a physical and organic life-form on this planet with ever changing and adapting structure and cells, or you are dead.
Human evolutionary standards when it comes to reproduction and child rearing are extremely important. Reproduction and the rearing of children is one of, if not, the most important parts in every species (including humans), as without it (or with extremely unsuccessful and “traumatizing” versions of it) the species ends. In a species as successful as ours, to the point of becoming the most dominating species on the planet, hardwiring a trait that will produce such an impactful amount of “severely traumatized and broken” potential mates and primary caregivers makes zero sense for any species, especially ones as sexually inclined as ours.
We are supposed to believe that attraction to preteens, or at least teenagers is extremely common and genetically hard wired in at least males for the sake of successful reproduction and child rearing, that puberty is a time of sexual maturity that all mammals go through in some way, shape, or form, to become CAPABLE of producing and rearing offspring. I said producing AND REARING, because in no species, at least in species where the offspring is also raised by their primary caregiver, are the females of the species capable of reproducing without also being capable of talking care of them selves and their offspring. It may be slightly more difficult to raise offspring for first time mothers, but that isnt intrinsic to age, and in social species, the new mothers are typically helped and guided by older females.
We are also supposed to believe that if a young female has sex, especially with an adult, and GOOOD FOOORBIIIDDD, gets pregnant(which she has been evolutionarily programed to do after hundreds of thousands of years of human development) before the recent arbitrary manmade number we pulled out of our ass a century or two ago, especially with an “adult”, she will be so physically ruined by the ordeal that she will barely be able to carry the baby, much less give birth, and she will be so “traumatized” and “mentally underdeveloped” that she will be completely incapable of taking care of herself, let alone another child. That hundreds of thousands of years of evolution has, unlike any other sexually reproductive species, programed its young females to be capable of reproduction, yet so “traumatized” and “underdeveloped” that they are completely incapable of taking care of themselves, barely capable of giving birth(the very thing that their body just spent valuable time and energy to program them to do via reaching sexual maturity), and completely incapable of raising their own offspring.
We are supposed to believe that unlike literally every other species ever, nature programed its females to reach sexual maturity, and the majority of its males to be attracted to females who have at least reached sexual maturity, but if ever the two shall intertwine the female will be incapable of doing the very thing they just went through sexual maturity for the sole purpose of doing.
Even nepipedophillia. In our closest species, such as chimpanzees and bonobos, they dgaf about age or sexual maturity stages and will fuck whomstever. Mother bonobos sucking baby bonobo dick, chimpanzees fucking prepubscent chimpangirls, yet these species seem to be more than capable of reproducing and giving birth, socially bonding with each other, and living in harmony.
Of course, those are animals, not humans, so not a perfect comparsion. But we also have native tribes as living proof. There has been absolutely ZERO native tribe, at least before western colonization, with an age of consent, or at the very least, one so high above a male or females reaching of sexual maturity. No native girls or boys receiving irreparable life long mental scarring from sex play, no teenage natives suffering from nightmares from seeing the sexual organs of their older peers. An anti may claim that seeing breasts wasnt/isnt scarring for native children because they werent/arent “sExuALiZEd” but sexual organs, which are by definition, “sExuAlIzEd” by their very nature, also come with a significant lack of “trauma” to children growing up in native colonies. Yes, despite the anti claims that even seeing an erect adult penis will ruin a child for life, these native tribes seem to be doing quite well for themselves, living in harmony with both each other and natives, and actually tend to do far worse once colonizers try to “fix” their “barbaric” and “harmful” ways by forcing them to cover up and remove their “sExuAliZing” practices from their culture.
In fact, such dramatic negative reactions and “trauma” seem to only arrive in societys where the very idea of sex itself is shamed heavily and safegaurded from their youth and the public in general. Coincidentally, it seems that in only the Pure Western nations and the countries they force into following their standards seems to be non barbaric and “good” enough to fight against the evils of CSA. A very strange coincidence indeed.
Side note, once you have reached sexual maturity(producing sperm, getting a period), you are biologically an adult. Yes there will continue to be changes after spermarche and menarche, such as increased breast growth and voice deepening, but the human body NEVER stops changing and growing, EVER. Thats how people get taller or shorter, thats how people develop conditions like arthritis and muscle pain, thats how people loose their teeth and their hair and eventually begin to sag. The human brain never stops “developing”. Your brain continues to change after the age of 25, thats how people make new memories, thats how people learn new skills and make new friends, thats how people get dementia. There is no final stage of human growth, no “full devlopment” we arent pokemon. Either your body and brain are growing and changing, as you are a physical and organic life-form on this planet with ever changing and adapting structure and cells, or you are dead.