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Mu Comment: The Dutch Volleyball Star is Not a Rapist, Should Participate in the Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:28 pm
by BLueRibbon

Re: Mu Comment: The Dutch Volleyball Star is Not a Rapist, Should Participate in the Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:32 pm
by Fragment
One of the things I find strangest about this story is that the legal systems in question understood that it wasn't a massively evil crime- hence him only serving a total of 13 months.

But the media calling it "raping a 12-year-old" has made the pitch fork mob reaction so much worse.

Original discussion here:
https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?p=737

Re: Mu Comment: The Dutch Volleyball Star is Not a Rapist, Should Participate in the Olympics

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:46 pm
by FairBlueLove
Thanks for the article. When reading stories like that, your 12+ proposal comes into mind. In cases like these, I see even 1 day serving as too much.

Re: Mu Comment: The Dutch Volleyball Star is Not a Rapist, Should Participate in the Olympics

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:13 am
by BLueRibbon
FairBlueLove wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:46 pm Thanks for the article. When reading stories like that, your 12+ proposal comes into mind. In cases like these, I see even 1 day serving as too much.
It was very tempting to bring it up, but we figured it was too alienating for an official committee release.

Re: Mu Comment: The Dutch Volleyball Star is Not a Rapist, Should Participate in the Olympics

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:11 pm
by Jim Burton
I've reworked the article a little, introduced some talking points and new source material.

https://www.map-union.org/blog/mu-comme ... e-olympics

Re: Mu Comment: The Dutch Volleyball Star is Not a Rapist, Should Participate in the Olympics

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 4:13 pm
by BLueRibbon
Jim Burton wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:11 pm I've reworked the article a little, introduced some talking points and new source material.

https://www.map-union.org/blog/mu-comme ... e-olympics
Looks good.

Re: Mu Comment: The Dutch Volleyball Star is Not a Rapist, Should Participate in the Olympics

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 1:18 am
by ZVOTD
If he is truly not a rapist than he is one of the most libeled and unnecessarily hated people that I have ever seen. I hope one day he gets payment from these disgusting people in the media for all the trouble that they have caused him but I doubt it.

Re: Mu Comment: The Dutch Volleyball Star is Not a Rapist, Should Participate in the Olympics

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:52 am
by Fragment
Only just realized how fucked the wikipedia article on this is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_van_de_Velde

The subtitle for the scandal isn't even "criminal charges" but "child rape".

The one good thing the article does is this line:
The sentence was adjusted in line with Dutch law, and the charge of rape was substituted for one referring to ontucht ("sexual acts that violate social-ethical norms").
explaining why it was not rape. Unfortunately it goes on to show the further anti-sex culture we're heading towards:
Until 1 July 2024, Dutch law only recognised rape if force was involved.
How are we going to fight this cult-like ideology?