New Member!

[slickapples]

What’s up fellow MAPs!
Thought i’d write a little introduction about myself since i just joined this website, I’m a male in my early 30s, I am secretly an experienced MAP, I live a pretty normal life on the outside. I currently am married and have a daughter who is about to turn 7 in a few months! I do have a few personal issues as a MAP with a family and especially with a really beautiful daughter. Makes things worse especially since my AoA is her age currently. I was hoping getting some guidance and support with some of these internal struggles I have as a father. Extremely looking forward to interacting with this forum and connecting with people who have similar tastes and struggles.
Thank you!

[BLueRibbon]

Welcome!

[WavesInEternity]

Welcome~

I hope you'll take no offense at this warning, but please be extremely careful with your precious daughter... Pro-c as most of us here might be, we must acknowledge that the sexual abuse of children is a real thing, and that not all forms involve violence or overt coercion. Research shows that the abuse of a prepubescent girl by a father figure is the most harmful form of CSA, and the harm changes remarkably little whether the use of force is involved or not.

Anecdotally, my mother is a tragic example: she was sexually abused by her father (and other family members) between the ages of 3 and 8, and it broke her mind permanently in so many ways—that are completely unrelated to secondary/iatrogenic harm (the authorities were never involved anyway). Crucially, she never said "no" as it was just "how things were". She'd even initiate sexual activity, despite how traumatic it was for her, because she knew someone she loved and depended on wanted it. Her classic case of rape trauma syndrome means that she's completely unable to enjoy sex and has a deeply rooted fear of men and physical contact.

Basically, my message is: no matter how "willing" she may ever appear to be, no matter how tender and loving you think you can be, no matter how much you think she could enjoy it, don't do it. When it comes to this type of incest, the risk of harm is simply too high. Your responsibility as a parent is to cherish and protect her. (On that note, do make sure to be a sexually progressive parent and to raise her as an autonomous being rather than an obedient cog in the system.)

As for coping mechanisms, I know that personally, using lolicon and other forms of erotic fiction involving imaginary little girls helps a lot to take the edge off. It gives me a sexual outlet that allows me to better focus on non-sexual aspects of my relationships with real little girls. I write such fiction, too. Having a youthful autopedophilic adult girlfriend whom I could make passionate love to helped a lot before she left me. Otherwise, age play with online sexting partners can be nice. Basically, make sure you're sexually fulfilled in a way that doesn't ignore your preferences.

Another way I found to reduce the weight of such unwanted desires is to avoid isolating myself emotionally. The best-case scenario is to be able to discuss your predicament with others, which is exactly what you're doing here, so kudos for that!

[BLueRibbon]

Welcome~

I hope you'll take no offense at this warning, but please be extremely careful with your precious daughter... Pro-c as most of us here might be, we must acknowledge that the sexual abuse of children is a real thing, and that not all forms involve violence or overt coercion. Research shows that the abuse of a prepubescent girl by a father figure is the most harmful form of CSA, and the harm changes remarkably little whether the use of force is involved or not.

Anecdotally, my mother is a tragic example: she was sexually abused by her father (and other family members) between the ages of 3 and 8, and it broke her mind permanently in so many ways—that are completely unrelated to secondary/iatrogenic harm (the authorities were never involved anyway). Crucially, she never said "no" as it was just "how things were". She'd even initiate sexual activity, despite how traumatic it was for her, because she knew someone she loved and depended on wanted it. Her classic case of rape trauma syndrome means that she's completely unable to enjoy sex and has a deeply rooted fear of men and physical contact.

Basically, my message is: no matter how "willing" she may ever appear to be, no matter how tender and loving you think you can be, no matter how much you think she could enjoy it, don't do it. When it comes to this type of incest, the risk of harm is simply too high. Your responsibility as a parent is to cherish and protect her. (On that note, do make sure to be a sexually progressive parent and to raise her as an autonomous being rather than an obedient cog in the system.)

This is an important comment.

Society conflates AMSC with CSA. However, that doesn't mean CSA doesn't exist.

[reaver]

With regard to positive reactions in girls, the odds ratio is 4.50, favoring non-coerced and 3.42 as the initiator, so I put my trust in girls and math, not feminist extremism and their anti-girl anti-GL anti-family agenda.


Welcome, despite the extremist bias.

[WavesInEternity]

With regard to positive reactions in girls, the odds ratio is 4.50, favoring non-coerced and 3.42 as the initiator, so I put my trust in girls and math, not feminist extremism and their anti-girl anti-GL anti-family agenda.


Welcome, despite the extremist bias.

Source? You seem to be conflating cases of incest with AMSC in general, while the point I was making was precisely that incestuous sexual activity between a prepubescent girl and a father figure is an outlier with respect to the likelihood of harm for the girl.

There is zero "feminist extremism" about the statement that father/young-daughter incest is harmful in an overwhelming majority of cases. If the research cited in Tom O'Carroll Paedophilia: the Radical Case isn't enough for you, look at Positive Memories by T. Rivas or the website Consenting Juveniles and try to find a single positive report pertaining to a father-daughter experience. There are a few with uncles, but none with fathers.