Epstein Case: Bipartisan policitization of pedophilia leading to a breakdown in MAP demonization?

[Officerkrupke]

As you all know, the Epstein case is in the news, after the DOJ said there was no client list. This resulted in Democrats accusing Trump and the GOP of covering for pedophiles.

Now that the left is also majorly politicizing Qanon/Pizzagate themes, does this political polarization represent a tipping point for acceptance of us?

[Liana Lial]

I'm not certain that I'm sure what you mean. The frustration towards the Epstein files feels like it stretches along most of the political spectrum in the U.S. - and I mean more than just that simple democrat/republican dichotomy. In many ways, it doesn't seem polarizing at all to the average person in the states, but rather harmonizing compared to what Americans have grown accustom to. Can you elaborate on your thought process?

I think what's really quite difficult is that no one wants to acknowledge that these people aren't actually pedophiles, for the most part. The media likes to make a thing of it, and people do themselves into the ground perpetuating the idea, but these folks who may be on the client list just aren't. Even if there was sex with teenagers, that's pretty bog standard as far as it goes. I don't really think a man who is primarily attracted to adults, but can also be into teenagers tend to feel themselves to be a ephebophile, hebephile, let alone a pedophile in any meaningful way.

[Officerkrupke]

I'm not certain that I'm sure what you mean. The frustration towards the Epstein files feels like it stretches along most of the political spectrum in the U.S. - and I mean more than just that simple democrat/republican dichotomy. In many ways, it doesn't seem polarizing at all to the average person in the states, but rather harmonizing compared to what Americans have grown accustom to. Can you elaborate on your thought process?

I think what's really quite difficult is that no one wants to acknowledge that these people aren't actually pedophiles, for the most part. The media likes to make a thing of it, and people do themselves into the ground perpetuating the idea, but these folks who may be on the client list just aren't. Even if there was sex with teenagers, that's pretty bog standard as far as it goes. I don't really think a man who is primarily attracted to adults, but can also be into teenagers tend to feel themselves to be a ephebophile, hebephile, let alone a pedophile in any meaningful way.

Epstein was still minor-attracted. And basically what I mean is the average non-political person could realize that accusations of “pedophilia” are meant to demonize political opponents, not to keep children safe. This could lead to the questioning of “pedophilia” as automatic demonology(my theory).

[PorcelainLark]

I don't think so. I think the democrats see Trump's unwillingness to release information relating to Epstein as possibly the only thing that will make his supporters question their support for him. They're making the most of it. I think we were better off when the right was making pedophilia into a partisan issue. Now democrats can make use of the same outrage right-wingers were using.