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Being a map will never be accepted, and that's okay but what's the agenda to this forum then?
You hear on Fox News, The Daily Wire, and other conservative outlets that the LGBT community is a platform to groom America into believing that pedophilia is acceptable. I was just watching a video earlier where they made the argument that if the world starts to believe that being gay is okay because you're born that way then people will start to say being attracted to children is okay because they're born that way. We've all heard this argument before. That the LGBT is trying to normalize pedophilia but when I do my own personal research that's not the case at all. It's just conservative propaganda forced onto the general public by evangelical Christians to justify homophobia and force the Christian lifestyle. Map's have been ambushed, attacked, boo'd, and worst by the LGBT and LGBT supporters at Gay Pride Parades. So clearly the pedophile agenda conspiracy theory is a myth. Yes, there have been LGBT activists who supported NAMBLA. Yes, there have been cases where same-sex married parents who were active in the LGBT community molested and even trafficked their kids like the Zulock family. Yes, the media including Disney is forcing the LGBT agenda on to the world and having half-naked boys do drag performances on TV is a coincidence. I could go on and on but the moral of what I'm saying is that the overall LGBT community condemns pedophilia. I personally believe that there are maps who have infiltrated the LGBT community to exploit their naivety for their own gain. For example, the registered sex offender who became a trans woman and then went to a library to read to a bunch of kids. Was he truly trans, or was he exploiting the trans community? Either way the LGBT community and the trans community were in outrage about it.

But sometimes when I scroll through the forum, I see that there are maps that truly believe that we can go to the White House and protest until they make having sex with minors legal and socially acceptable like the gays did. That the LGBT really is a front for pedophiles who are trying to convince the general public that having relations with minors is acceptable. They truly believe in that whore shit as well. I'm sorry, but you gotta be a fucking idiot to believe that any of this stuff is gonna be socially acceptable one day.
It never will be, and that's okay. I personally think that a human making out with a dog is fucking disgusting but there are people who are born attracted to animals.That's weird and gross to me. It will never be normalized for me. I will never see a woman french kiss a horse and think "aww." But let the beastiality community do their own thing. I don't give a shit. I don't judge. Just like I'm not attracted to elementary school kids, I like middle school girls but I have friends who like little kids. When I first joined this world I didn't know how I felt about someone who is attracted to toddlers but I've expanded my mindset. Even though I have become open minded to other map's attractions, being a map will never be normalized or accepted by the rest of the world. There was one point where it was taboo, but people would look the other way when they saw a 16-year-old dating a 25-year-old but that was in the eighties. In today's world being a map will get you killed. Do you really believe there will be a day where people are going to be cool with seeing a 30 year old make out with a kindergartner in public when one of the greatest actors of our time, Leonardo DiCaprio is struggling to find work because the general public is disgusted by the fact that he dates women in their early twenties because he's in his fifties?


So what is the agenda of this forum? When you look at b4Uact their motivation is preventing maps from engaging in their attractions. Given that being a map will never ever be accepted nor normalized and there is no other group in the universe that Is on our side then what is the agenda of all this? I see a lot of people in this forum saying "Yeah, we have to go to the White House and boycott and... We have to do this and that and we have to make Pro Pedophile Agenda content like Comic books and movies and video games and Action figures." It's like Sorry bro, but that shit will never, ever be accepted So what is the agenda? What do you guys think? Because I'm realizing that this forum is just for me to vent my frustrations and anxieties and all these other feelings that I have about being a map. It's for me to really put out my thoughts in a safe space. But as far as an agenda, as far as actually trying to force a movement to start, that's not going to happen. We'll be shot down by the millions by anti's, map's who want to make the anti's believe they're not map's, and map's in denial. I'm coming to realize that I am a part of this amazing community because I want to go to map camp, and other social gatherings. I want to make map friends, and be apart of the culture that I so desperately love and even find a wife whether it's a female map or yf but there's no acceptance for us so what's the agenda?

That's a very demoralizing viewpoint to take. I don't have the solution on advocacy and how to approach this problem, but I'm pretty sure all the negativity isn't going to help.

Historically speaking in the past in America, it seemed much more acceptable until feminism made the age of consent a matter of female autonomy and an extension of rights.

Honestly, I’m not that pessimistic, but I understand your point and to a large extent I share it. Although, it makes me think that you’ve actually normalized certain things. To normalize doesn’t mean to like them, but to tolerate them, to understand that they exist, and to accept that there are people with those preferences. To know that it’s normal that they exist.

And as stupid as it may sound… I don’t know, last month I was on YouTube and I came across a commenter who was making arguments that seemed straight out of this forum. It wasn’t bad to read, and I think normalization mainly comes from that. From the number of people who simply start saying it’s something normal.

Without the need for laws, for entertainment products used as propaganda, but just a simple spread of ideas that some people find reasonable to share. Then, well, of course, it would be much easier if Disney made pro-MAP stuff.

there are some things in the map community that piss me off like the ones that think that they are morally superior to other paras or have some hate boner for minorities for some reason. though, no hate to those who find certain paras disgusting. to each their own. but do they seriously think that mapmisia is going to improve by hating on each other? i could say the same about myself. i don't know if the situation will improve either. I can only hope. i still feel disgusted at the thought of protesting for map advocacy because there's a hint of self serving from looking at certain subjects just as a turn on. or the opposite.

certain forums like B4U-Act & virped seem noble in principle, even if it makes you feel somewhat like a test subject or let down.

monocyte09 wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:14 pm certain forums like B4U-Act & virped seem noble in principle, even if it makes you feel somewhat like a test subject or let down.

I'm not saying it's those organizations but there's definitely some feeling in the air of virtue signalling, especially from the vigilante pedo hunter crowd.

I don't think being defeatist helps very much. If there's even a 0.1% chance of liberation, we should latch on to it and try to pry it open. There have been different times in history and different cultures across the world where there have been periods of normalization. That fact alone means it's not impossible.

Batmanthecute wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:24 pm Yes, the media including Disney is forcing the LGBT agenda on to the world and having half-naked boys do drag performances on TV is a coincidence.

say what now? disney nor media never forced ANYTHING queer on the public. in fact, the opposite - they're very scared of losing chinese and russian money, so they never do any normal representation, reserving to statements behind scenes, little hints or scenes that can be vut out entirely. have you ever seen a mainstream disney movie where The Main Character is queer and gets a happy ending IN queer relationship? if you have please tell me I wanna watch it. but i doubt you have.

Batmanthecute wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:24 pm For example, the registered sex offender who became a trans woman and then went to a library to read to a bunch of kids. Was he truly trans, or was he exploiting the trans community? Either way the LGBT community and the trans community were in outrage about it.

not "the lgbt" and "the trans", LGBT stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, so it's one and the same community.

Batmanthecute wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:24 pm So what is the agenda of this forum? When you look at b4Uact their motivation is preventing maps from engaging in their attractions. Given that being a map will never ever be accepted nor normalized and there is no other group in the universe that Is on our side then what is the agenda of all this? I see a lot of people in this forum saying "Yeah, we have to go to the White House and boycott and... We have to do this and that and we have to make Pro Pedophile Agenda content like Comic books and movies and video games and Action figures." It's like Sorry bro, but that shit will never, ever be accepted So what is the agenda? What do you guys think? Because I'm realizing that this forum is just for me to vent my frustrations and anxieties and all these other feelings that I have about being a map. It's for me to really put out my thoughts in a safe space. But as far as an agenda, as far as actually trying to force a movement to start, that's not going to happen. We'll be shot down by the millions by anti's, map's who want to make the anti's believe they're not map's, and map's in denial. I'm coming to realize that I am a part of this amazing community because I want to go to map camp, and other social gatherings. I want to make map friends, and be apart of the culture that I so desperately love and even find a wife whether it's a female map or yf but there's no acceptance for us so what's the agenda?

You can't know the future. it seems impossible for you, but maybe, if we keep pushing, some day we may manage to get some recognition and legal respect. sure it'll probably happen much later, maybe in a few centuries or something, for the taboo is hard to break...

but it's not only the agenda. its also a community, a place to talk and to support each other, to discover yourself and find people who are like you. it's only just to convince the White House or whatever, it's to be a safe space.

I think you're wrong, I think it will be normalised.

1. Throughout history, pedosexuality hasn't been villified in the way it is today. Today is an anomaly really, not the norm, and there's no reason to believe that this anomaly will last any longer than any other anomaly.

2. It isn't just vertically through history, it's also a case that horizontally across cultures it isn't universally vilified today. You're looking at this through the narrow lens of the west which happens to have the loudest voice today in terms of media and wealth.

3. I maintain that hate of pedosexuals is a luxury hate in an fat opulent western society, almost a fashion accessory. In cultures with real issues to deal with, pedosexuality tends to not feature as something of major concern. Farming, economics, fighting poverty, water management, trade are real matters to deal with. When real issues are hidden away from a culture then they're free to find trivial things to get upset about, like pedosexuals and small numbers of illegal immigrants.

4. I've spoken to non-pedosexuals who I've been able to reason with and have taken a more neutral view on the subject. I don't believe that a small vocal minority of people yelling about pedosexuals will ultimately define cultural norms. It's a faze that will pass and common sense will prevail. Locking people up for decades for a couple of AI photos for example, or for expressing love for someone young really isn't a crime, especially in a world of massive corporate embezzlements and countries committing genocide and infanticide while arguing that it's being done for moral reasons.

Pedophillia will never be accepted you say? Even like teo or three decades ago, having sex with underaged teenagers was perfectly normal and accepted by society. Your fatal flaw is the belief that moral panics last forever. Did you now the age of consent used to be as low as SEVEN quite recently in America? I will never understand the claim that “pedophillia will NEVER be accpeted”. Imagine if black people picking cotton on platantians just gave up because “racial equality will NEVER be accepted”. Imagine thier shock if you told them that one if our most recent presidents was black? Imagine if the gays being exiled from society and burned alive in rugs just gave up because “gays will NEVER be accepted”. Imagine how they would laugh at you if you told them that gay people are now a protected legal class. Imagine if you told jews being gassed alive in nazi camps that a couple decades later that germany would end up treating them even better than non jewish germans. Or if you told communists during the red scare that communism would now be a “based” and extremely common and respected leftist viewpoint. Your fatal flaw is your belief that humanity is stagnant and incapable of change. You can keep believing that delusion, or be realistic

Not to mention that pedophobia is a hysteria, and hysterias are unsistainable in the long term. Now we have middle aged men being shamed and villified for finding women in their late 20s attractive. 17 year olds being “cancelled” for “grooming” 15 year olds. 14 year olds being called predators for “sexualizing” minors the same age or older than them. Mass censorship and survillence of the internet and the destruction of anonimity to “protect” minors from sex and “catch” “pedophiles”.Father getting accused of child abuse for holding hands with thier underaged daughters in public. Men getting the police called on them for compimenting minors, not sexually, a literal platonic basic compliment. Minors threatining random adults with axes and knives on the street and getting away with it by falsely accusing every man of being a pedo. Any non white, unventionally attractive, or older man getting called a pedo and having the mob sent on them at the drop of a hat. People saying that 17 year olds are children because they are under 18. People saying that 20 year olds are children because they are under 21. People saying that 24 year olds are children because they are under the magical brain development age of 25. People saying that Leonardo Decaprio is “grooming” an innocent 28 year old child. People going to prison in places like australia for making porn of women with small tits or writing “problamatic” works of fiction. Thats not sustainable.

Its not a question of “how much does western society and other first world countries currently hate pedophillia in the modern day, but a question of “is this sustainable in the long run?” “Will society be able to keep functioning while keeping the same amount of hysteria and fearmongering towards pedos?” The answer is no, obviously not. There are too options, either society continues its hysterical opression of pedophiles and we end up with a collapsing 1984 style society, where children wear burkas to keep from prying eyes and get monthly checks to make sure they are still virgins, where fathers are expected to abandon their families and avoid any caretaking roles or giving any affection to their kids, lest they be seen as “p3d0s”. Where people are given the death penalty over fictional anime lolis and fanfiction. Where children are kept in a seperate society from the childless gen pop lest a “pedo” tries to interact with them and are only allowed to interact with adults like parents and doctors under strict supervision from the cops. Where everyone online has to give their ids and is watched by the goverment to make sure that no online “grooming” happens. That is NOT a sustainable society. Society WILL collapse if pedohysteria and pedophobia keeps escalating the way it does. So society, once again, has too options. Either continue with the hysteria and fear and get so paranoid towards pedophillia and everything even vaguely related to pedophillia that society collapses, or ease up on the insanity for the survival of our country, if they choose the first option. Oh well, whatever, humanity is a blight on our planet anyways, we will just have to rebuild society from scratch. Or if they pick the second option, the SECOND they ease back is when we strike full force.