The most obvious example is even the term “pedophillia” and “child”, which used to only refer to prepubscent kids, but now applies to minors old enough to drive cars and fight in the millitary.
Youth rights seems to no longer be about the rights of well, youth, it seems to only be about teenagers, teenagers, teenagers. Instead of “youth should have rights” most people are saying “teenagers should have tights but idgaf about anyone younger than 13”. I dont know if this is just the problem of the youth rights sub reddit and that youth rights in other groups are more focused on actual “youth rights”, not “teenager rights”. But most of what im seeing is not people being agaisnt agesim, but only being against ageism if it affects teenagers. Saying stuff like “teens arent children, only actual children deserve to be opressed and subjugated while teens should get all the benefits of adulthood and all the benefits of childhood and get to live as a superior class to both children and adults. Ive seen so many posts along the lines of “teenagers shouldnt have to pay taxes or fight in wars or go to prison or have any responsibillities related to adulthood since we are kids but we also should be allowed to drink and smoke as much as we want and drop out of school because we arent really kids”???? That is NOT “youth rights” that is just “teenage rights but only when it benefits me and I dont have to have any actual reponsibillity” (and even when it comes to “teenage rights”, they only actual believe in teenage rights until it comes to the right of sexual bodily autonomy, then adult “teen right activists” come in and talk about how the age of consent should be raised to 25 and no one under 18 should even be allowed to masturbate and porn should only be watched if you are retierment age
, so “teenage rights” unless it offends our delicate puritan sensibilities)Same with MAP rights, even pro C MAPs, only care about sexual and romantic and bodily autonomy for teenagers and MAPs attracted to teenagers, and have zero actual problems with prepuberty kids and MAPs attracted to prepuberty kids being subjected to puritanical sex laws and being pathologized and demonized. Ive seen too many hebes and ephebes that dont actually support “Map and youth sexual autonomy” but only “hebephile and ephebophile and teenager sexual autonomy” and have a very assimilationist narrative. Obviously teenagers have reached sexual maturity, so therefore, more people will be attracted to them, but that doesnt mean that kids who havent reached puberty are asexual and that ageist sex laws and hysteria dont negatively affect them? An orgasm is an orgasm, it doesnt go from a pleasurable bodily sensation to an evil life destroying trauma worse than death itself just because you havent grown tits yet. Fetuses masturbate till orgasm in the WOMB. Daycare and elementary schoolers “play doctor”(have sex) and seek out sexual contact with both each other and adults, not because of “sExuAlIzAtIoN” or “GrOoMiNg” but because they are HUMAN BEINGS, and sexuality is a part of being human(except for the very small percentage of people who are genuinely asexual). You cant say that your against sex ceptionalism and sex negativity, then say that kids under a certain age shouldnt be allowed to have a sexuality and should get it stomped out of them. Sure, some kids wont be very intrested in anything sexual until they reach a certain age, but to the many, MANY children that are, why should they have to suffer just because it makes you uncomfortable? Why should they be shamed for being “fast” or “grown” because they like fooling around, just because they arent sexy teenagers? Why should their older partners be demonized and sent to prison, just because it makes you unfomfortable? Why should they be banned from getting sexual education, because it makes you uncomfortable?? Pleasurable orgasms dont turn into “evil orgasms” just because your sexual partner doesnt have crotch hair yet. Blowjobs dont turn into painful and traumatic and life destroying blowjobs just because your partners balls havent dropped. Sexual pleasure, is sexual PLEASURE. It does not become sexual PAIN, in a complete absence of violence or force, just because their partner is over some magical arbritrary number or because they havent grown tits yet. If literal fetuses in the womb can handle an orgasm and not suffer “life long trauma and pain” from it, then so can a kid outside the womb. And giving your partner an orgasm should not be restricted by age. Obviously pro C MAPs who still support an aoc for pre teenage kids are way less hypocrtical then anti c MAPs or antis, but you cant say that orgasms are pleasurable and highly simple and natural expierences that dont magically become negative just because your partner is over 18, then say that that logic only applies to the kids you find attractive and that any kid under 12 or 13 will have life long blowjob trauma and need their older partners to be locked in prison. Either a willing and non violent blowjob causes pleasure and is an enjoyable and non complex way of showing affection, or it is a highly complex and dangerous activity that magically becomes even more complex and dangerous if the mouth sucking your penis is “adult mouth”. You cant have your cake and eat it too. Either giving willing kids sexual pleasure and orgasms as an adult is dangerous for all kids, or its dangerous for none, even if you support a lower aoc, you are still supporting the idea that below a certain age, even if its only a day below said age, orgasms become incrediblely complex and dangerous and that kids below that age are either asexual or should be forced into asexuality by the law, which is objectively false, because literal FETUSES purposefully seek out orgasms IN THE WOMB. And the pro C articles that show that sexual “harm” below 18 in willing and non violent cases dont show evidence that that sexual “harm” is only sociogenic in teenagers but any kid even a day under 12 or 13 is asexual and has life long dick sucking trauma, no! It supports that children of all ages tend to enjoy orgasms, even id the orgasm is given to them by a grownup, and that any negative affects, espcially “life long” negative affects are only a reponse to social conditioning by antis.
And antis. I cant renember the last time I have heard about a hysterical anti crying about a “literal pedophile” “permantly destroying” “an innocent child” and the adult in question has actually been a pedophile and the child had actually been under 13/before puberty. Think about it, I mean, really think about, when is the last time you have heard a case of “grooming” or “csa” with a NON teenager? Its been awhile right? I actually cant even renember the last time I have seen a hysterical news article about a 6 or 7 year old having a sexual expiernece. It is only about teenagers, teenagers, teenagers. Sure it could be simply a numbers games, there are more people who like 17 year olds than 7 year olds, so more teens will be “abused” by getting their dicks sucked. And teens are more likely to be socially brainwashed by antis into thinking that orgasms and sexual pleasure magically becomes evil if your partner is older than you than little kids, so they are more likely to be influenced by sociogenic harm and buy into the victim label and feel a need to act accordingly than younger kids. But all the cases of “pedophillia” and “grooming” and “csa”, on social media, in the news, even in real life, seem to ONLY center around cases of teenagers. Which is giving me the impression that antis, at least modern day antis compared to the “toddler satanic preschool ritual abuse” antis of the 1980s, are more upset with teenagers being sexual than little kids being sexual, and more upset with hebes and ephebes than genuine pedophiles(even though they call us all pedos and would gladly murder us all the same). Which at first glance makes no actual sense, but when you think about it, kind of does, when you account for how common teen attraction most likely is in the general population and how hard antis have to fight to infantilize teenagers and keep them in the “child” category instead of the “adult” category. When you think of it in terms of pedocrite jealousy and the destablization of the already incredibley shakey teenagers=small children narrative that antis try to force on everyone. It makes complete sense
So basically, youth rights only focuses on the rights of teenagers, not the rights of youth in general(and only if those rights have nothing to do with any type of sexuality or anything that can lead to sexuality, which is why the modern day youth rights is making abosultely zero progress on youth rights, because they are disgusting hypocrites when it comes to youth rights to sexual autonomy, either acting just as paternalistic and ageist as regular antis, or refusing to adress it by claiming it “isnt important”, despite the fact that it is THE MOST important youth right because it is weaponized by modern day ageists to justify literally all other forms of anti youth ageist bigotry, and on too of that, they are only centered on teenagers, either completely justifying or ignoring the plights of any kid under 12/13)
Pro C MAPs are only Pro C for teenagers, and Pro MAPs in general are only Pro Map for for hebephiles and ephebophiles, but still demonize and pathologize pedos
Antis only care about “csa” and “grooming” and “pedophillia” when it involves teenagers. They claim they care about “child” “abuse”. But only “care” about “children” if they are over 12 and only “care” about “abuse” if the “abuse” in question is sexual(they dont care if you beat the ever loving shit out of your kids and your kids are scared of you and hate the expierence, thats just “discipline” and should be encouraged, however, if you play with your kids balls and even worse, if your kid enjoys the expiernce and wants more of it and suffers no real negative affects outside of sociogenic conditioning, then you deserved to be beaten and raped to death during your 70 year sentence in prison, and even then it is only really news worthy if the “victim” is between 13-17
Even the movies and shows we watch. All the most popular shows center around teenagers. Most shows people watch are about adults and teenagers, shows about any non teenage kids, no one seems to care about(yes ik there are exceptions life south park). I get that it is a demographic thing, but damn, even the adults love shows with teens more than shows with adults. River dale, euphoria, mean girls, literally every single anime ever. Why cant we get a fun iconic show centering 2nd graders or something? I get that it also has to do with ageist censorship, antis will get more up in arms if a pre teenage child says a curse word than if a teenager does(which never made sense to me, why can't little kids curse? They are just words, and not words that directly target someone like a threat or an insult or a slur, who cares if a 6 year old says “fuck” if she drops something on her toe or wants to emphazise something? As long as you make sure she knows not to do it during a future job interview, let the kids curse! Why do curse words have to be censored for kids shows or on the radio? Will a childs brain explode if they hear a “naughty” word?) but seriously, even antis who claim to want nothing to do with teenagers are OBSESSED with teenagers, trying to look like teens, act like teens, watch content about teens.
Whole damn planet has gone ephebophillic. All anyone can talk about is “teenagers teenagers teenagers”. No offense or shame to you if you like teenagers, but I wish prepuberty kids could get the same attention and care and respect that teens do. But instead, teens are idolized on a pedastal as “the best years of life”, and pre puberty kids are seen as annoying whiny snotty nosed nusicances who barely even count as people and have nothing to offer society. I hate it. Kids under 13/puberty are wonderful human beings and I hate that they are cast aside and banned from most public places for being “annoying crotch goblins”.Its such a strange limbo to be in where prepuberty kids are your favorite age group, the group you love and respect and care about the most, the age group that you are most sexually, romantically, and platonically attracted to, but everyone else on earth thinks they are “annoying” or “whiny” or “snotty” and make “”jokes”” about wanting to hit or beat prepuberty kids or how they dont count as real people and should be banned from public spaces, but then turn around and say that they hate pedophiles because they somehow all of sudden “care” about prepuberty kids after talking about how the literally want to hit and beat them and hate it when they are in public spaces, then turn around(lots of spinning) and worship teenagers as literal gods and the “best years of life” and try constantly to look like teens, act like teens, watch “teen” shows and movies, and extend adolecense as far up as possible, then advocate for the torture or death of anyone who calls themselves a “hebephile” or “ephebophile” because suddenly liking teenagers is “wrong” after they have made their entire personality and culture revolve around teens??. If I get married in the future, I will not ban kids, it will not be a “kid free” wedding, it will be a kid MANDATORY wedding, lol. Given societys obsession with teenagers, I wouldnt be surprised if ephebophiles are actually MORE COMMON then teliophiles, and thats the reason not only that there are so many cases of “csa” and “grooming” of teens, but also why they are so desperate to only report on and demonize teen sexuality and teen attraction while ignoring the elementary school and young middle school kids
