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Hi! Here to discuss

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:59 pm
by Learning to undeny
I'm a male MAP in my 20s from Europe. I'm interested in discussing our place in the world. This is the first community for MAPs that I join; it attracted me for being a public forum and somewhat politics-oriented (as opposed to smalltalk or illegal stuff), but I don't know how it compares to others like B4UAct (because they are private).

Originally I wanted to join VirPed; what discouraged me is a blogpost by BlueRibbon (if I remember correctly) and the fact that the public sees it with suspicion. I'm sure many of its members really are virtuous people, though. I like to be honest: I read TOC's book and, while I may disagree with some of it, I cannot unread it. I no longer feel that visceral reaction against paedophilia that we all began with.

For me, there are very good reasons not to act on my desire (to which I am committed), having nothing to do with a particular set of beliefs:
1. It is likely to harm the child; it doesn't matter if the harm is direct or indirect.
2. It is very risky for me.
3. It scares me to even think that I might do something like that.
4. Acting on one's fantasies is not a human right; there are alternative ways to satisfy oneself.
5. I'm also attracted to adults.

I've been in a state of half-denial since 13. Unfortunately, looking up in the internet "Am i a pedophile?" you are gaslighted into thinking that you have POCD (that sure is a real condition, but so is paedophilia). Accepting I am a paedophile has been a roller coaster. I am also seeking help from mental health professionals.

Sexuality has made me uncomfortable since I was a child, and I think I am less affectionate / warm than I would like because of this. Being a MAP didn't help.

Here I would like to argue for the anti-contact stance, in part because it is "not the dominant narrative" here. I worry that this forum might end up becoming an echo chamber for the pro-contact crowd. And I worry that discussing this topic in public might encourage CSA. Although, in the end, what people do is not my responsiblity. I have an open mind. 😀

Re: Hi! Here to discuss

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:08 pm
by BLueRibbon
Welcome!

And please be very careful about what you say to mental health professionals. B4U-Act maintains a list of those who can be trusted to an extent; telling any others that you're a MAP is an insane roll of the dice.

Re: Hi! Here to discuss

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:46 pm
by Learning to undeny
BLueRibbon wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:08 pm Welcome!

And please be very careful about what you say to mental health professionals. B4U-Act maintains a list of those who can be trusted to an extent; telling any others that you're a MAP is an insane roll of the dice.
Thanks for the advice. I didn't know about the list, and was adviced to come out by specialists. I like to have some faith in other humans and so I told my psychologist, including things I regret. They took it better than I expected. On the other hand, I have gotten slightly paranoid. Time will tell if it was the right decision.

To some extent, I am willing to take risks because I don't value my life too much (not that I am suicidal) and because it will probably help children in the long run.

The only way that mental health professionals will understand us is by coming out to them. Perhaps I'm too innocent.😉