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Virped, MAP Club, and many others actively exclude pro-c MAPs because they believe they are better than us and would rather appeal to those who want our destruction. Whether you individually are anti-c is your choice, but do not infringe on our choices and exclude us, so let them know; IT'S ALL OF US OR NONE OF US!

Since it's a choice, I think they are in their right to exclude pro-cs if they want.

For example: if someone says they would like murder to be legal, wouldn't you exclude this person or feel morally superior?

Learning to undeny wrote: Fri Nov 07, 2025 10:28 pm Since it's a choice, I think they are in their right to exclude pro-cs if they want.

For example: if someone says they would like murder to be legal, wouldn't you exclude this person or feel morally superior?

Saying that people have the choice to take away other people's choices isn't an intelligent argument to make, nor is calling me a murderer, but that's more of a self-reflection on yourself

Cunny Defender wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 12:37 am

Learning to undeny wrote: Fri Nov 07, 2025 10:28 pm Since it's a choice, I think they are in their right to exclude pro-cs if they want.

For example: if someone says they would like murder to be legal, wouldn't you exclude this person or feel morally superior?

Saying that people have the choice to take away other people's choices isn't an intelligent argument to make, nor is calling me a murderer, but that's more of a self-reflection on yourself

Learning to undeny is right. I'm a little confused though, in what instance were you termed a murderer? Forget to put on your reading glasses! Yes offense (pun intended).

arty wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:33 am

Cunny Defender wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 12:37 am

Learning to undeny wrote: Fri Nov 07, 2025 10:28 pm Since it's a choice, I think they are in their right to exclude pro-cs if they want.

For example: if someone says they would like murder to be legal, wouldn't you exclude this person or feel morally superior?

Saying that people have the choice to take away other people's choices isn't an intelligent argument to make, nor is calling me a murderer, but that's more of a self-reflection on yourself

Learning to undeny is right. I'm a little confused though, in what instance were you termed a murderer? Forget to put on your reading glasses! Yes offense (pun intended).

Wow, how funny, and i choose for you to go die in a ditch
(I don't actually mean that; it's for the sake of argument)

I think a lot of exclusive anti-c groups are obsessed with trying to appeal to non-MAPs as a way to save themselves. They hope that by excluding pro-c rhetoric, and treating pro-c MAPs as inherently bad people, they can appeal to the hearts of the rest of society.

Unfortunately for them they cannot. In a world without pro-c MAPs, they will still be hated, attacked and criminalized (e.g, in the past loli/shota content was a legal coping mechanism for non-offending MAPs; today in many places, it's seen just as bad as real cp and you can be convicted for possessing/creating it).

They do not realize that it is not the act of sex with children that people hate, it is the fact that we have a deviant sexuality, and part of the goal that people have is to destroy it. If they could read your mind, they'd convict you for your corrupted thoughts.

Virped, MAP Club, and many others actively exclude pro-c MAPs because they believe they are better than us and would rather appeal to those who want our destruction.

For context, Virtuous Pedophiles (virped.org) is a leading anti-c organization and support group that has faced recent controversies and continues to operate. It has around 100 posts per day, and is one of the most active, and long-running english language support groups of its kind.

Virped excludes persons who are openly pro-c, as you must agree to Virped's ethos to be a member. This has not stopped pro-c's becoming down-low members there, and the majority of Virped members simply do not subscribe to the ideals of Virped. Even recently, there was a thread discussing Newgon (I don't think they permit hyperlinks to Newgon, but might be wrong) in which a former contributor or supporter of Newgon, and present member of MAP Forum defended the right of users to view, consume, find value in whatever MAP media they deem fit.

MAP Support Club (mapsupport.club) is the leading anti-c rocketchat server. It shares some administrative support with Virped, and was financially supported by the Prostasia Foundation before it closed recently. MSC prevents discussion of pro-c ideas, and participation of openly pro-c individuals.

However, MSC has also prevented discussion of Pediverse servers, including the anti-c ones such as NNIA. This is a form of safetyism.

It is premature to suggest that these organizations see their members as superior to pro-c MAPs, as this would imply the distancing of a large proportion of their membership. While I have seen many statements of denial from anti-c's, when faced with this accusation, I do believe that many of them want to wash their hands of pro-c's, as they see them as a disruptive association. See, for example, the reaction of German anti-c pedophiles to pro-c hebephiles who do not want to reduce the German age of consent by any more than 2 years.