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Use Edwards scandal to draw attention to lack of evidence for claim that consumers of CSAM contribute to CSA
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:25 pm
by PorcelainLark
This talking point is the justification for a lot of outrage about MAPs. Frequently people claim that those guilty of consuming CSAM are contributing to CSA by purchasing it, thereby creating a market and a financial incentive to abuse children.
All you need to do is, when it's brought up (e.g. on Reddit, Twitter, Youtube, etc.), ask people for their source. They won't be able to find sources. You don't need to labor the point, it's enough for people to just see that they can't provide evidence for this claim.
Re: Use Edwards scandal to draw attention to lack of evidence for claim that consumers of CSAM contribute to CSA
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:20 pm
by BLueRibbon
The Huw Edwards case is useful in many ways.
I assume you read our article on the matter?
https://www.map-union.org/blog/mu-analy ... ar-on-pim1
Re: Use Edwards scandal to draw attention to lack of evidence for claim that consumers of CSAM contribute to CSA
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:17 pm
by PorcelainLark
I have, just reading the Reddit thread and listening to James O'Brien in particular made me feel like hammering home the lack of evidence for this claim. People are getting angry about something which might not even be true, and I think drawing attention to that is something that even more reasonable antis could be persuaded of. If I'd have known when O'Brien was covering the Huw Edwards sentencing on LBC, I might have texted in (maybe using one of those fake numbers). I genuinely think there was a good chance he would have listened.
It fits with my broader vision of connecting MAP interests with fighting disinformation.
Re: Use Edwards scandal to draw attention to lack of evidence for claim that consumers of CSAM contribute to CSA
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:21 pm
by BLueRibbon
PorcelainLark wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:17 pm
I have, just reading the Reddit thread and listening to James O'Brien in particular made me feel like hammering home the lack of evidence for this claim. People are getting angry about something which might not even be true, and I think drawing attention to that is something that even more reasonable antis could be persuaded of. If I'd have known when O'Brien was covering the Huw Edwards sentencing on LBC, I might have texted in (maybe using one of those fake numbers). I genuinely think there was a good chance he would have listened.
It fits with my broader vision of connecting MAP interests with fighting disinformation.
We really need help getting our articles, and their key points, out among the public. I went crazy writing that article. It took a ton of work. I would be grateful if others could help with promoting it.