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Nepios

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:30 pm
by Joanne7315
Hi, just want to put it out there that I am quite open and proud to identify as a [non exclusive] Nepio, happily attracted to infants and toddlers. I know that many in the MAP community are uncomfortable even with Nepios, so I stick my head above the parapet to be freely available to explain as best I can the attraction and to champion the Nepio corner.

Re: Nepios

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:09 pm
by Phossu
Preach!! I'm not a nepio myself, but you are just as much a MAP as the rest of us. Glad to have you here.

I think any MAP who is uncomfortable with nepios needs to do a little introspection... An involuntary disgust response is one thing, but feeling that way should never lead one to believe that you are invalid, or "worse" than other MAPs just because you happen to be attracted to the youngest among us.

Re: Nepios

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:41 pm
by Joanne7315
That is kind, thank you.

Re: Nepios

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:43 pm
by Joanne7315
And I know I have said this before, I didn't learn how to be attracted, I was born this way

Re: Nepios

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:16 am
by Phossu
Fragment wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:16 pm I think it can really depend on what "valid" and "worse" mean.
Agreed. When I wrote that, I meant "worse" to mean "you are worse as a person" and "valid" to mean "emotionally valid". Without even talking about actions, it is common for people to invalidate our feelings alone. This can be done in a lot of ways, and society does it constantly to MAPs. I tell people they are valid because sometimes that is really valuable to hear. I think there is a risk it can end up being patronizing, and I'll try to be aware of this possibility.

Fragment wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:16 pm Being denied the ability to act in line with our natural inclinations is inherently INvalidating.
This is a good point. Like you say, everyone has two classes of permissibility and not all actions can be permitted. Your example with the gay guy and trans person is distinct from the case of nepiophiles in this way.

So the question is, how should we react if someone tells us they are a nepiosadist, or a biastophile, or some other orientation that we consider unethical to act on? In my opinion these people get enough shit, so I try to be supportive. I have no issues with biastophiles having violent fantasies in the same way that I have no issues with other fantasies I would consider unethical to act upon.

I'm very sorry to hear about the intrusive thoughts you had the other day. That is understandably very upsetting. While I believe that thoughts are not "bad" in themselves (even the thought you had), there are a lot of ways that our thoughts can cause distress or other negative effects.