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This kind of discussion, whenever it arises or it becomes more fervent, it's completely meaningless.
The problem with this kind of perception is that we are not talking about sex science every time it arises. Pedophilia inside the social discourse it's a construction. The name, the figure, the way desire is shown, was endorsed for too much time to make it powerful. Talking about Hebephilia, Ephebophilia or MAPs sounds like minimization because it has less power and try to break the repressive ideology that uses the name pedophilia to exert some power.
Summarizing: Everytime some guy says that X is pedophilia and another one says it's actually hebephilia, the second one didn't understand the point.

My impression is that hebephiles might actually the main targets of pedo hate (simply because they are more numerous, I'm not saying pedophiles are less hated than hebephiles of course). That's why "pedophile" is the chosen word against hebephiles: it reduces consciousness among hebephiles because they might not fully take the hint. They are not technically pedophiles, after all. In fact, I'd bet if "hebephile" was used as an insult it would not be strong at all because the target could own it, and it would make people reconsider if hebephilia is really an abnormal thing...

Learning to undeny wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 11:24 pm My impression is that hebephiles might actually the main targets of pedo hate (simply because they are more numerous, I'm not saying pedophiles are less hated than hebephiles of course). That's why "pedophile" is the chosen word against hebephiles: it reduces consciousness among hebephiles because they might not fully take the hint. They are not technically pedophiles, after all. In fact, I'd bet if "hebephile" was used as an insult it would not be strong at all because the target could own it, and it would make people reconsider if hebephilia is really an abnormal thing...

I can attest to the fact that hebephiles are socialized to be unconscious of their own chronophilia, with "pedophile" the only word normal antis knowing and using pejoratively, it's all we think of whenever we have mental breakdowns or question ourselves. We so easily return to denial when someone in a position of authority or with a close relationship trys to comfort us by providing evidence that we aren't pedophiles, i.e. our disinterest in prepubescent kids, and some of us confuse our attraction for intrusive thoughts. I think a lot of bisexual people being told they're straight in the last century faced similar mental confusion and pressure.