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JJ1 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2026 2:35 pm Completely agreed. Nowadays, you might be shamed for "intrusive staring", labelled a "pervert", "creep", etc. and potentially accused of so-called "sexual harassment", regardless of whether they are adults or physically developed "minors" (social construct).

Here is the story of an incel (involuntary celibate) who was punched in the face at a public swimming pool by a male white knight after a group of women accused him of "sexual harassment":

Women at a swimming pool accused me of "sexual harassment". The life guards sided with them.

A fertile woman who wears a bikini knows perfectly well that she is inciting sexual desire. Women who are bothered by being seen with their stomach and legs exposed have the option to wear a full-body swimsuit that covers everything from neck to shin. This is not "victim blaming" - they made the conscious choice of going to a public, crowded place in a bikini.

PurpleHouse wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2026 6:41 pm I also find if people intentionally look away they are sometimes seen as a "problem" for thinking there is something to avoid looking at. Maybe not at pool or something, but more generally.

PurpleHouse wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2026 6:41 pm I also find if people intentionally look away they are sometimes seen as a "problem" for thinking there is something to avoid looking at. Maybe not at pool or something, but more generally.

PurpleHouse wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2026 8:59 pm Society seems to be growing a strange idea of attraction.

It is like physical attraction is no longer healthy. Unless someone has a "protected" orientation in which case it is acceptable to state that attraction.

People can't tell attraction from action - so we have the issue that MAPs are a problem.
I saw a reel a while back with a young adult saying that if older users found it attractive they were predators - just for feeling attraction and not doing anything.
Flippantly, it is like saying someone who feels hungry is overeating!

I saw an agony aunt column where someone wrote in saying they were having trouble finding their wife attactive as they became middle aged and had children. He didnt say he wanted to feel that way and said he still loved her, but couldnt feel the physical attraction like he used to. And the comments suggested he chose to feel that way.

I think it is true that physical and emotional attraction "feed" each other. Find someone basically nice looking and also really like them as a person and the physical attraction increases. But also people dont control the level of physical attraction they feel.

And i see articles making out it is bad to feel attracted or turned on by seeing someone physically attractive or who is wearing more minimal clothes. Absolutely not right not leer at them or make them uncomfortable or harrass them. But just feeling attraction (or not) is basic biology.

Also confusion over valuing someone based on attraction. If i see two people and find one more attractive than the other - yes if in a situation of choosing a partner i might choose the more attractive but for any other purpose i would not choose one over the other as a better person. Both are of equal value as humans.

When it comes to not wearing much being right or wrong. Changing rooms and toilets are private places for a reason. So to say it is weird to consider modesty potentially a good thing is odd, but obvs that this is more nuanced than i am making out. I do wonder why someone would choose to be scantily dressed in public except to be a bit "exposed" but again this is nuanced and i accept people have their own reasons. But as a man would i choose to go out in just tight swimwear (except to a swimming pool or beach)... probably not. Personally i would find it odd to dress like that. BUt it is preference naturally. Very nuanced but i think the discussion is a bit strange sometimes.