MAP allies by region
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:21 am
Here I'll break down what I think are our (pro-C or contact optimist) MAP allies across each region and corner of the Earth. So I'll begin with:
Latin America
Allies:
Old-school leftists as represented by the likes of the Bolivarian front in Venezuela, and PT's Lula De Silva in Brazil.
Traditionalist Catholics (TradCaths), although their numbers are dwindling thanks in no small part to US-funded Protestant missions in the region.
Reasons:
Those leftists are by far the only ones in Latin America that haven't bought into the pedehysteria afflicting the northern hemisphere, with many being either uninterested in pedo-hunting, or even interested in lowering the age of consent, as it was going to happen back when Lula's government in 2014 was willing to lower Brazil's age of consent from 14 to 12, until a 180 degree turn was made when Rio de Janeiro was selected as the site for the olympics. I should mention that Brazil and Peru are both exceptional globally in that they're the two countries where the absolute age of consent for all sexual activities was lowered rather than increased, from 16 to 14, and in both cases the changes were made and spearheaded by leftist governments.
As for the TradCaths, it's often down to their acceptance of minor marriage at least when it comes to pubescent women, although this may change as much of the Latin American right-wing that tradcaths are part of is getting americanised, and with it comes the spread of pedophobia. So in Latin America, our strongest allies would be leftists, particularly those adversarial or sceptical towards the US.
West, South, and Southeast Asia
Allies:
Religious conservatives, especially Muslims
Reasons:
Although by no means sexual libertines, such conservatives often see heterosexual minor marriage as being the only form of intergenerational intimacy that should be societally sanctioned. Thus, they would be willing to hear us out regarding minor attraction, and willing to fight tooth and nail for as long as their religious norms are maintained. In India, Muslims have their own legal provisions called the "Personal Law", which allows them to obey specific laws that fall outside standard Indian laws, like being able to marry a 15-year-old within Islamic norms. While this is far from ideal for some MAPs, for now such groups are the only people receptive to our message the most in these regions, so we should take an opportunity wherever and whenever there is if it leads to the advancement of MAP rights.
Africa is no different as the only people willing to defend minor-adult relationships are social conservatives and religious fundamentalists who view youth-adult marriage as being acceptable.
Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand
Allies:
- The political fringes, especially among communists, anarchists, youth liberationists, more libertarian liberals, neo-nazis, etc...
- More moderate liberals (think the SOR reformers, judges who think CP sentences are too harsh, etc...)
Reasons:
As a result of stigmatisation of MAPs across the west following the end of the Cold War, our beliefs and positions are now in the fringes, so that the only isles in the current political landscape willing to entertain our ideas or support us are going to be the ones in political extremes. As such, whether it's the socialists at the World Socialist Website, or Alt-Righters such as Nick Fuentes, those fringe figures are going to be the ones most lily to support at least a part of out platform, if not partially sympathise with our ideals.
But moderate liberal groups that have long fought for causes similar to ours, such as NARSOL with regards to the SOR, or Prostasia, can't be dismissed immediately as their liberal worldviews might clash with the authoritarianism nd totalitarianism of their worldviews, leading them to be sympathetic to MAPs.
Conclusions:
Now that my imperfect breakdown of potential MAP allies is done, I would like to hear y'all on who might be our potential allies across the world, and why.
Latin America
Allies:
Old-school leftists as represented by the likes of the Bolivarian front in Venezuela, and PT's Lula De Silva in Brazil.
Traditionalist Catholics (TradCaths), although their numbers are dwindling thanks in no small part to US-funded Protestant missions in the region.
Reasons:
Those leftists are by far the only ones in Latin America that haven't bought into the pedehysteria afflicting the northern hemisphere, with many being either uninterested in pedo-hunting, or even interested in lowering the age of consent, as it was going to happen back when Lula's government in 2014 was willing to lower Brazil's age of consent from 14 to 12, until a 180 degree turn was made when Rio de Janeiro was selected as the site for the olympics. I should mention that Brazil and Peru are both exceptional globally in that they're the two countries where the absolute age of consent for all sexual activities was lowered rather than increased, from 16 to 14, and in both cases the changes were made and spearheaded by leftist governments.
As for the TradCaths, it's often down to their acceptance of minor marriage at least when it comes to pubescent women, although this may change as much of the Latin American right-wing that tradcaths are part of is getting americanised, and with it comes the spread of pedophobia. So in Latin America, our strongest allies would be leftists, particularly those adversarial or sceptical towards the US.
West, South, and Southeast Asia
Allies:
Religious conservatives, especially Muslims
Reasons:
Although by no means sexual libertines, such conservatives often see heterosexual minor marriage as being the only form of intergenerational intimacy that should be societally sanctioned. Thus, they would be willing to hear us out regarding minor attraction, and willing to fight tooth and nail for as long as their religious norms are maintained. In India, Muslims have their own legal provisions called the "Personal Law", which allows them to obey specific laws that fall outside standard Indian laws, like being able to marry a 15-year-old within Islamic norms. While this is far from ideal for some MAPs, for now such groups are the only people receptive to our message the most in these regions, so we should take an opportunity wherever and whenever there is if it leads to the advancement of MAP rights.
Africa is no different as the only people willing to defend minor-adult relationships are social conservatives and religious fundamentalists who view youth-adult marriage as being acceptable.
Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand
Allies:
- The political fringes, especially among communists, anarchists, youth liberationists, more libertarian liberals, neo-nazis, etc...
- More moderate liberals (think the SOR reformers, judges who think CP sentences are too harsh, etc...)
Reasons:
As a result of stigmatisation of MAPs across the west following the end of the Cold War, our beliefs and positions are now in the fringes, so that the only isles in the current political landscape willing to entertain our ideas or support us are going to be the ones in political extremes. As such, whether it's the socialists at the World Socialist Website, or Alt-Righters such as Nick Fuentes, those fringe figures are going to be the ones most lily to support at least a part of out platform, if not partially sympathise with our ideals.
But moderate liberal groups that have long fought for causes similar to ours, such as NARSOL with regards to the SOR, or Prostasia, can't be dismissed immediately as their liberal worldviews might clash with the authoritarianism nd totalitarianism of their worldviews, leading them to be sympathetic to MAPs.
Conclusions:
Now that my imperfect breakdown of potential MAP allies is done, I would like to hear y'all on who might be our potential allies across the world, and why.