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NotTrueToMyself wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:51 am CP doesn’t keep people from offending and it doesn’t make people offend.

Just the same as normal porn doesn’t create rapists.

Most studies about AMSC have only half the picture. Many of the loving relationships where no one is hurt and the AAM goes on to lead a healthy productive life don’t report. And when they do, the study is vilified and attacked.

Batmanthecute wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:13 am I've heard some Maps say that loli manga and anime helps with taming their desires by giving them an outlet. It intensified my urges when I was watching loli anime so I feel like legal CP would cause an outbreak but then again, so what? Rape is bad no matter what but if society sees two six teen-year-olds having sex as healthy and natural then how would an adult and a teen be any different?

mrlolicon93 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:24 am Hypothetically if cp was legalized do you think it could help and prevent pedophiles from offending?

PorcelainLark wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:08 am

mrlolicon93 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:24 am Hypothetically if cp was legalized do you think it could help and prevent pedophiles from offending?

I agree with NotTrueToMySelf. I don't think it would change anything. There's no evidence that a person that views CSAM is more likely to abuse children. I'd prefer to draw attention to that against people who say viewing CSAM makes people more likely to abuse children. It's an excuse to avoid facing the uncomfortable truth that viewing CSAM may have no moral significance whatsoever. It's motivated by disgust and fear rather than anything real.
Ultimately I don't think the producers of CSAM are necessarily immoral either, but if one group has to be blamed for CSAM it's the producers not the consumers of CSAM. Also I've yet to find evidence that the majority of consumers of CSAM are financially incentivizing "abuse". Those of us who are non-exclusive intuitively know this is absurd (those of you who are non-exclusive, when was the last time you paid for regular porn? why should we think it's any different for CSAM?).

NotTrueToMyself wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:55 am

PorcelainLark wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:08 am

mrlolicon93 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:24 am Hypothetically if cp was legalized do you think it could help and prevent pedophiles from offending?

I agree with NotTrueToMySelf. I don't think it would change anything. There's no evidence that a person that views CSAM is more likely to abuse children. I'd prefer to draw attention to that against people who say viewing CSAM makes people more likely to abuse children. It's an excuse to avoid facing the uncomfortable truth that viewing CSAM may have no moral significance whatsoever. It's motivated by disgust and fear rather than anything real.
Ultimately I don't think the producers of CSAM are necessarily immoral either, but if one group has to be blamed for CSAM it's the producers not the consumers of CSAM. Also I've yet to find evidence that the majority of consumers of CSAM are financially incentivizing "abuse". Those of us who are non-exclusive intuitively know this is absurd (those of you who are non-exclusive, when was the last time you paid for regular porn? why should we think it's any different for CSAM?).

Actually research currently shows that most CSAM is made by minors with minors, these days. It’s only deemed SAM becasue of the ages.

mrlolicon93 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:36 am

NotTrueToMyself wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:55 am

PorcelainLark wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:08 am

I agree with NotTrueToMySelf. I don't think it would change anything. There's no evidence that a person that views CSAM is more likely to abuse children. I'd prefer to draw attention to that against people who say viewing CSAM makes people more likely to abuse children. It's an excuse to avoid facing the uncomfortable truth that viewing CSAM may have no moral significance whatsoever. It's motivated by disgust and fear rather than anything real.
Ultimately I don't think the producers of CSAM are necessarily immoral either, but if one group has to be blamed for CSAM it's the producers not the consumers of CSAM. Also I've yet to find evidence that the majority of consumers of CSAM are financially incentivizing "abuse". Those of us who are non-exclusive intuitively know this is absurd (those of you who are non-exclusive, when was the last time you paid for regular porn? why should we think it's any different for CSAM?).

Actually research currently shows that most CSAM is made by minors with minors, these days. It’s only deemed SAM becasue of the ages.

This is true and most actual CSAM (Child/adult sex content) is made in third world countries with laxed laws like Thailand or The Philippines.

NotTrueToMyself wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:54 am

mrlolicon93 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:36 am

NotTrueToMyself wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:55 am

Actually research currently shows that most CSAM is made by minors with minors, these days. It’s only deemed SAM becasue of the ages.

This is true and most actual CSAM (Child/adult sex content) is made in third world countries with laxed laws like Thailand or The Philippines.

And the laws are completely screwed up. If a child takes a picture of themselves that is considered CSAM they will be charged with production of CSAM and if they send it to their boyfriend/girlfriend, they will be charged with distribution and production of CSAM and the person they sent it will be charged with possession. So a horny minor takes a picture of themself and is now a sex offender for life. Talk about twisted.