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Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:14 pm
by AtosW
Anyone here using AI writers, either for writing fiction, personal "role playing" or more serious purposes?

I think the MAP community have somewhat underestimated how useful they are, not just for writing and polishing the wording of manifests to prove your point, but also for information gathering and moral reasoning. One thing that AI is really good at is coming up with a reason for something, or an argument to prove a point of your choice. I haven't done much with this yet, but i'll definitely be working on some things that are useful to the MAP community.

But the main point is erotica, of course. :D

The one to use right now, seems to be https://huggingface.co/chat . There is no limitation, warnings or "punishment" to worry about. Just be sure it's set to use the Mixtral-8x7B model before you start.

There are also https://www.hackaigc.com and https://perchance.org/ai-story-generator but they are very limited and pretty much obsolete right now, but it's good to have some alternative in case the first one goes down.

Sometimes it will refuse to do a certain story or RP for "moral" reasons, but it seems to have a lot to do with how you phrase it. By "nudging" it properly, you can make it do literally anything, and once you got it to do a subject there's no more objections. What comes before seem to make a lot of difference to how it reacts.

Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:46 am
by WandersGlade
I often use it to help get started organizing my thoughts, even though I usually end up rewriting everything. Still, its super handy compared with search engines for finding terminology you're looking for.
AtosW wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:14 pm The one to use right now, seems to be https://huggingface.co/chat . There is no limitation, warnings or "punishment" to worry about. Just be sure it's set to use the Mixtral-8x7B model before you start.
Mixtral is also available via DuckDuckGo's AI Chat. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=chat&ia=chat

Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:03 am
by BLueRibbon
https://poe.com/Newgon_Man

Trained to regurgitate Newgon talking points.

Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:24 am
by WandersGlade
An example of using AI to try to generate arguments:
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Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:41 pm
by Fragment
Funny how it still only recognises abolishing the AoC for minor-minor sex and recommends even heavier penalties for adult-minor.

Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:16 pm
by Pegasus
As much as I try to make a fictional story that includes a mother and her daughter, I can't develop the story, since the AI just starts moralizing, saying that this or that is wrong. How can we "teach" the AI to interact without censorship?

Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:40 pm
by Pegasus
BLueRibbon wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:03 am https://poe.com/Newgon_Man

Trained to regurgitate Newgon talking points.
It has a message limit, after which you have to pay😪😪😪😪

Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:20 am
by Fragment
Pegasus wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:40 pm It has a message limit, after which you have to pay😪😪😪😪
It resets daily, though.

Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:26 pm
by Jim Burton
Pegasus wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:40 pm
BLueRibbon wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:03 am https://poe.com/Newgon_Man

Trained to regurgitate Newgon talking points.
It has a message limit, after which you have to pay😪😪😪😪
The corporations are already monetizing my work. It had to happen.

Re: Uncensored AI writers

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:54 pm
by Joel
Pegasus wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:16 pm How can we "teach" the AI to interact without censorship?
The model needs to be de-censored in one way or another.
Pegasus wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:16 pm What comes before seem to make a lot of difference to how it reacts.
Exactly. Even mainstream models are quite willing to go the path you showed them in the "system message". But public APIs or web applications often have a moderation layer running on top of the model.

For people who would like to try the text generation safely and easily, I recommend trying out LostRuins/koboldcpp.

It is extremely easy to use and it allows you to run models locally (it means offline = without any monitoring). The application is a single .exe file. All you need to do is to download the right model from Hugging Face (no registration required), and then select it in the application interface.

Every modern laptop with decent amount of RAM should be able to run the smallest 7B models. And if you have a dedicated graphics card with at least 4GB VRAM, it performs pretty well. There are both easy and comprehensive guides available around the web.

Good uncensored models are listed on the UGI-Leaderboard. Try smaller 7B models first, if you are not sure what your computer is able to handle. Pick the model, and then look for it's "GGUF" variant on Hugging Face. Download the one which ends with Q4_K_M. If it runs well, you can try larger versions or models.

Simple as that :).