MAP Forum

Something that has always bothered me and kinda pisses me off is that there is no positive representation of maps in media.

The only kind of representation you will get are either the typical negative predator stereotype such as when Freddy Krueger was retconned to be a map in the 2010 Nightmare on Elm street remake or George Harvey from The Lovely Bones or you will also, get a morally grey depiction of a broken flawed person such as Humbert from Lolita David Lamb from Lamb or Walter from The Woodsmen which is better than the typical predator image but still not positive.

I wish there were more morally grey or even straight up positive depictions of maps in media.

I hate The Lovely Bones and i hate George Harvey for killing that poor little girl and retconning Freddy Krueger to be a map is just downright offensive and insulting.

I imagine that positive representations are a hard sell these days.

Most positive media representations of MAPS in recent history have come out of Germany. Good Boy (2008), Headburst (2020), and especially No Dogs Allowed (2024) are worth checking out, particularly if you’re a BL.

This is self-sustaining criminalization - "It is offensive because it is illegal, and illegal because it is offensive." This connection remains stable due to the social sterilization of young people.

They are told about "tolerance", "inclusivity" and "equality", but gay teenagers are still prohibited from registering on dating sites, participating in LGBT pride marches, watching porn, etc. Their sexuality and autonomy is under lock and key, they are subject to the system. It has gotten to the point where parents are being judged for giving their child more autonomy and allowing him to go far away on his own.

Decriminalization of gays and marijuana was inevitable because over time people stopped understanding what the problem was and why people needed to be punished for it. As long as young people are in silent submission to a system built on adult prejudices, it is convenient to make "victims" out of them.

The vicious circle of criminalization of MAP will completely collapsed once young people gain autonomy, the right to express sexuality and can speak for themselves, because those who have had healthy intergenerational relationships knows that their adult friend was not a rapist.

terminally_unique wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:06 pm Most positive media representations of MAPS in recent history have come out of Germany. Good Boy (2008), Headburst (2020), and especially No Dogs Allowed (2024) are worth checking out, particularly if you’re a BL.

Thanks for the titles! Is it as it seems from the synopses that they are fully biased towards an anti-contact stance? If so, I see it could be due to the usual Catch-22, where they cannot provide any pro-contact views because of the possible backlash and legal slippery slope.

I happen to watch the final of Polisse (2011), where they use the questions to the boy and his answers during the interrogation to cast doubts on the present "solutions". Simple but clever.

Harlan wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:42 pmThe vicious circle of criminalization of MAP will completely collapsed once young people gain autonomy, the right to express sexuality and can speak for themselves, because those who have had healthy intergenerational relationships knows that their adult friend was not a rapist.

I agree. The challenge is to help the young generation feel more confident to voice their opinions and amplify those who already are.

I've mostly given up on western media (movies, shows, etc) for more than 10 years now because it's so full of propaganda and it seems like it always has to find a way to push those cliché stereotypes and cultural agendas.

It's one thing to have a message attached to your story or to let your personal preferences and worldviews leak a bit into your work, but in the case of western modern media, it's too blatant, too forceful, too mass-produced, too repetitive and too odious to be honest.