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https://www.thetimes.com/article/7746f5 ... 56f516c095

For years they presented themselves as the next frontier in civil rights; a minority unfairly penalised for their private lives. They attached themselves to the gay rights and feminist movements. They styled themselves as defenders of individual freedom and protectors of children’s rights — high-blown words that covered a vicious and grubby reality.

I half want her to pen part 2 on the new "PIE"s.

RoosterDance wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:46 pm I suspect we might be seeing more of [the PIE] in the future.

It looks like I was right.

So the gay rights movement eventually found itself attached to the push for male rapists to be housed in women’s prisons and male athletes to compete in women’s sports.

Wasn't this massively overblown?

The parallel with PIE here is obvious. This is not to slander trans activists as paedophiles, but merely to point out that in both cases, inflated claims about children’s “autonomy” were used as the vehicle for very adult aims.

Yeah right, comparing and associating trans people with the most hated group in society isn't trying to poison the well at all!

Organisations that promote equality and civil liberties and which should have a fundamental place in civil society were deeply compromised.

That implies she cares about equality or civil liberties. Meanwhile, the ACLU supported the rights of Neo-Nazis; something tells me she wouldn't support that.

It will take Stonewall a long time to live down campaigning for minors to be given sterilising medication.

Puberty blockers sterilize people? What?

Social justice requires vigilance, not just vibes.

If justice isn't about vibes, shouldn't it be about thought? Ironically, her position is more vibes-based than MAP activists. Her disgust isn't particularly thoughtful, and where are all these advocates for social justice that support MAPs anyway? She claims to be disgusted by MAPs advocating for abolishing the age of consent, but the closest person to being a social justice advocate for MAPs is Allyn Walker who opposes abolishing the age of consent. There's no question about whether the stigma against MAPs is even a real problem, it's just framed as selfish adults who want to hurt children. Another perfect example of poisoning the well.

What an illiberal TERF clown.