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Did anyone call Prince?
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No one mentioned Mister Rogers? He was basically famous for loving kids.

George Lucas Dave Filoni and Steven Spielberg,

bravolima wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:53 pm how about Tom Brady. i watched a youtube video of him once. so he is at home having a massage laying on his back and its all being filmed. nothing untoward, until his son, around 11 or 12, comes in the room to say good bye as he is going out. Tom brady then says he wants a kiss goodbye. the boy walks over and leans over Tom brady and gives him a quick kiss on the lips. Tom Brady then says he wants a proper kiss. the boy leans over again and they lock lips and kiss for way to long to be normal for a father and son. not sure if its still on youtube, not to sure what to make of it.

It was the same between Will Smith and Jaden Smith. They went on a tour of the premiere of the movie "After Earth" and in each country Will kissed Jaden on the lips during an interview on a local TV show. There are still a few episodes left on YouTube.

One day, I was looking at the Peter Pan 2003 movie page (probably the hottest Peter boy of all the screen adaptations to date) and it seemed unusual to me that one of the producers of the movie was Mohamed Al-Fayed. After googling a bit, I came across information that Mohammed's son (Princess Diana's boyfriend, who died with her) slept in bed with his father until he was 14.

AtosW wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:27 pm

It's too bad Michael Jackson's reputation was ruined a bit by his weirdness and perceived creepiness. If he hadn't been such a freak in the public eye, he would have been the perfect spokesperson for us.

Minus his anti-Semitism (I don't know how deep that was at the time of his death) I tend to think of Michael Jackson as being somewhat of a gentle Christ-figure. I don't think there's any solid evidence that he was a pedophile. The earliest charges against him were apparently fabricated by a lawyer or some person who wanted vengeance against him for some silly reason and was willing to hurt his own son to get it (this might have been the origin of some of his anti-Semitism).

I'm not assuming that you have a negative opinion of him, but I'm turned off by people judging and looking down on others for being socially awkward or 'vulnerable' in that regard. There's nothing wrong with being eccentric. It brings me back to a point I never got around to making in some thread about MAP optics (it was a topic on some other board and I think it was mentioned somewhere here, about the stereotypes people have about pedophiles-overweight, neck beard, 'creepy,' etc. On the other board I remember one guy claiming that balding men should take Rogaine which he insisted worked for everyone and with no serious side effects ever. Hair transplant surgery might actually work for most men, if not all, if one has the money for it, I don't know). The only stereotype pedophiles should really concern themselves with breaking is the idea that they lack real genuine compassion for children (I can appreciate wanting to discourage certain stereotypes that I don't think are 'unflattering' in terms of what makes someone an admirable person just to show individual variation and avoid having people feel misunderstood or boxed etc., but at the end of the day you have more control over how compassionate you are than how attractive, charismatic, brilliant, etc.).

When you think of the ethical stances that you are most deeply invested in emotionally, how likely is it that the existence of attractive, charismatic people critiquing that position will cause you to do a complete 180? If it makes a difference politically I guess I couldn't' really argue against considering shallow optics on the basis that the switch would be shallow and fragile and made for the wrong reasons but I don't think it holds as much weight as some people think. If anything, some people might resent the challenge to a sacred value from people they feel are 'above' them and be more defensive and some attractive, charismatic figure from the other side will eventually come along to woo the fence-sitters or apathetic/non-committed people who don't really care about or understand the points beyond wanting to fit in or have the right public image etc. It's not as though there were no attractive, charismatic Nazis and they're not changing my mind (a presumably sincere value itself can make someone more or less attractive to other people and the packaging around it is irrelevant to that) .

In regards to the thread itself (I only skimmed through some of it), I can't say that I've ever had a 'pedo' vibe from anyone. I assume that all straight teleiophile men are attracted to teenage girls just by virtue of their having secondary sex characteristics and looking as though they are fertile, whether they admit it or suppress it or not.

bravolima wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:53 pm how about Tom Brady. i watched a youtube video of him once. so he is at home having a massage laying on his back and its all being filmed. nothing untoward, until his son, around 11 or 12, comes in the room to say good bye as he is going out. Tom brady then says he wants a kiss goodbye. the boy walks over and leans over Tom brady and gives him a quick kiss on the lips. Tom Brady then says he wants a proper kiss. the boy leans over again and they lock lips and kiss for way to long to be normal for a father and son. not sure if its still on youtube, not to sure what to make of it.

Sounds intriguing. I would like to see that, actually. Is there any chance?

Another one i forgot: Steve Vai frequently refers to children and sexuality in his liner notes and interviews, often with some metaphysical, psychedelic messages like "We must become like children, to experience pure ecstacy", "To break away from our preconceptions, we should imagine ourselves in different bodies, like child or alien bodies" and uttered things like "Sexuality is universal, and cannot be limited by gender, age or physical bodies" in interviews, as well as humorously referring to children being "horny" or experiencing sexual things in his work.

And he once called a little boy who went on stage in an audience participation number "sexy":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi9knzEsNs

And Brian Wilson sure liked meeting young female fans back in the day. A lot of his songs have a CL undertone, like "Caroline, No", "Wouldn't It Be Nice" etc...

Batmanthecute wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:07 am Have you ever watched a TV show or a movie and thought to yourself, man, that guy has to be a map? I do that all the time. I don't know why, but whenever I watch TV or a movie, I sometimes just overanalyze the person and it's like I feel like I know that they are a map, even though there's no accusations in the world, at least not on the internet that they are a map. I don't know. They say gay people know a person is gay at first glance and I think I have the same thing with me. I just get a vibe from actors like Charlie Day from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, the guy who plays Phil in Modern Family, Will Arnett, Tom Hanks, David Cross, Kristen Schaal, Jason Bateman, Eric Stonestreet, Mel Rodriguez, Ed Helms (Andy in The Office.) A couple others are Rainn Wilson (Dwight from The Office),Brian Baumgartner (Kevin from The Office), Keenan Thompson, Andy Samberg, Pete Davidson, Fred Armisen, Chevy Chase, Alec Baldwin, Mike Myers,Joaquin Phoenix, Keegan-Michael Key, Jane Lynch, Tony Hale, the guys from Tim and Eric Awesome Show,Jason Momoa, Jenny Slate, Seth Green, Seth MacFarlane, The South Park guys, Ed O'Neill, Will Forte, Adam DeVine from Workaholics and the Pitch Perfect movies. I’m also very suspicious of Will Ferrel. That’s just a few people that I suspect of being a map but let me know if there’s any public figures that you think could be a map.

Kodaka who wrote all Danganronpa games has to be every single underage girl who's been canon sexually abused is played for laughs and one old man character literally admits to being a pedo as joke one liner no explanation no anything and we move on and protagonist of that same game who's a teen girl says later that old man is "hot" or whatever for saying that 100% a pedo