Damned right we want to be included. And yet I also know some MAPS who are not accepting of trans people or those who go by different pronouns.Jim Burton wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:05 pm Lesbians against degeneracy...
https://fstube.net/w/jUF7PDFheuCzaW5SoCr8WX
STICKY: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet(!!!)
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Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet
Over the years my views on this have changed.
I used to think that the term pedophile was burned and conjured up too many negative connotations so I was pro the idea of migrating to the term MAP.
But over recent years I've started to think that was and remains a mistake.
Here's why.
Firstly, the term MAP (Minor Attracted Person) is too focused on attraction and doesn't encompass anything else such as love, respect, feelings of equality in some ways. It boils down the sexual orientation to just attraction. For me, sure there's attraction, but this sexual orientation is much more than that. Pedophile as in the original meaning of the term is a much more accurate description since it encompasses all of that. Pedophile as in child friend or child lover is not just focused on sexual attraction. So the term pedophile is easier to defend by focusing on the definition and meaning of pedophile.
Secondly, this whole rebranding to a new term can create an impression of shape shifting, trying to rebrand to avoid the question and slip under the radar rather than defend the position. If I say I'm a MAP and not a Pedophile, what does that actually mean? If I say to someone I'm a MAP and they say to me isn't that the same thing as a pedophile, how do I respond to that?
I think a much better approach would be to double down on what the term pedophile means as a term distinct to predator. Pull in history, acedmic research, a pedophile is not and never has been something to fear any more than gay or straight is. Predators of all types are something to fear.
I used to think that the term pedophile was burned and conjured up too many negative connotations so I was pro the idea of migrating to the term MAP.
But over recent years I've started to think that was and remains a mistake.
Here's why.
Firstly, the term MAP (Minor Attracted Person) is too focused on attraction and doesn't encompass anything else such as love, respect, feelings of equality in some ways. It boils down the sexual orientation to just attraction. For me, sure there's attraction, but this sexual orientation is much more than that. Pedophile as in the original meaning of the term is a much more accurate description since it encompasses all of that. Pedophile as in child friend or child lover is not just focused on sexual attraction. So the term pedophile is easier to defend by focusing on the definition and meaning of pedophile.
Secondly, this whole rebranding to a new term can create an impression of shape shifting, trying to rebrand to avoid the question and slip under the radar rather than defend the position. If I say I'm a MAP and not a Pedophile, what does that actually mean? If I say to someone I'm a MAP and they say to me isn't that the same thing as a pedophile, how do I respond to that?
I think a much better approach would be to double down on what the term pedophile means as a term distinct to predator. Pull in history, acedmic research, a pedophile is not and never has been something to fear any more than gay or straight is. Predators of all types are something to fear.
Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet
I'm not a pedophile, and using "hebephile" makes it sound like I'm trying to split hairs. I am a BL, though.
I still like using "MAP" as the community name, with individual markers for us based on specific attraction.
I still like using "MAP" as the community name, with individual markers for us based on specific attraction.
I'm not saying that all scoutmasters are pedophiles. I might be saying that the best ones are.
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Interviews:
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Louis C.K: Sorry
Interviews:
1: https://fstube.net/w/4bmc3B97iHsUA8rgyUv21S
3: https://fstube.net/w/xd1o7ctj2s51v97EVZhwHs
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There has been a lot of controversy in NZ about a green party MP who represents "rainbow children" and ran an undercover account where he used the word "bussy". But this mainly looks like mainstream gay behaviour.
Press and influencers desperately dropping the MAP bomb at every opportunity.
https://centrist.nz/mainstream-media-cl ... backfires/
Press and influencers desperately dropping the MAP bomb at every opportunity.
https://centrist.nz/mainstream-media-cl ... backfires/
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The story has attracted millions of impressions on social media and dragged on for over a week now, with multiple news stories.
There was a previous controversy in NZ over a high profile gay politician following a teen BL account on Instagram.
https://www.rebelnews.com/nz_politician ... am_account
There was a previous controversy in NZ over a high profile gay politician following a teen BL account on Instagram.
https://www.rebelnews.com/nz_politician ... am_account
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Reddit cringe warrior is going after "foal fiddlers" on Tumblr.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CringePurgator ... ?rdt=51766
https://www.reddit.com/r/CringePurgator ... ?rdt=51766
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OK that made me giggle...
The comments by "Haemophilia_Type_A" are the only ones that make sense. This one, sadly, has 0 upvotes:
As for that silly concept of "degeneracy" frequently brought up in that Reddit thread, I've got so much to say about it that it deserves its own post and its own thread... eventually.
The comments by "Haemophilia_Type_A" are the only ones that make sense. This one, sadly, has 0 upvotes:
I rewatched the entire first season of Pokémon—in the original Japanese—at ~26. Letting society dictate what age is appropriate to enjoy some given art is nonsensical. The appreciation of art should transcend all ages, all cultures, all epochs. Alice's Adventures In Wonderland was originally written as a children's book (by a man who was most likely a GL). The idea that "children" and "adults" should more or less exist in two separate "worlds" is one of the great tragedies of our contemporary world.Who cares about being 'weird' as long as you're not hurting anyone? It's immature to care so much about being normal that you'd stop enjoying things that make you happy just because other people might judge you for it.
I don't like the show in question, but I'll be damned if I'll let social norms stop me enjoying the things that I enjoy even if they're "weird".
As for that silly concept of "degeneracy" frequently brought up in that Reddit thread, I've got so much to say about it that it deserves its own post and its own thread... eventually.
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Straight cis male —— Ideal AoA: 10-14 —— Broader AoA: 7-17 + rare adult autopedophiles with a child's heart & a petite body
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Anna Slatz on relentless pursuit of a guy who sold dolls:
https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1918057085910106123
Also, I think Todd Nickerson had one of his interviews recycled on X.
https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1918057085910106123
Also, I think Todd Nickerson had one of his interviews recycled on X.
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Re: Someone is normalizing MAPs on the internet
The replies to this are as you would expect, absolutely absurd. Shame on Anna for the relentless harassment and targeting she is doing over a doll. These people are wasting their time on an issue that isn't even an issue.Jim Burton wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 7:45 pm Anna Slatz on relentless pursuit of a guy who sold dolls:
https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1918057085910106123
Also, I think Todd Nickerson had one of his interviews recycled on X.
One reply mentioning how studies "have shown it actually increases propensity to offend". Yeah, it does when you only rely on studies that sample from known offenders. That's called the survivorship bias, Twitter user "hereforthe87007".
Other than that, all the replies are the typical hysteria you expect from normies. They won't ever understand the struggle.
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~ Judge us for our actions, not the attractions we didn't ask for ~
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Acknowledge - Share - Protect - Inspire - Respect - Empower
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Committee Member: Mu. Editorial Lead: Yesmap
Adult-attracted gay man; writer. Attraction to minors is typical variation of human sexuality.
Adult-attracted gay man; writer. Attraction to minors is typical variation of human sexuality.