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Naylor allegedly messaged their 13-year-old boy decoy on Reddit before moving the conversation to a messaging platform.
"He wasn't necessarily illegal with us. He wasn't like, 'Let's meet up and have sex.' But he was like, 'Age is just a number.' Very perverted," Rosen said. "At some point, he blocked us because there's a hole in the story that we're not actually a 13-year-old."
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Rosen said his interrogation technique can be described as "grooming the groomers," using psychological manipulation to encourage confessions.
"You basically got to be a salesman when you talk to these people," Rosen said. "In that time where they're stunned, you have to sell to them that walking in and just ignoring us is not the best option."
Rosen said the approach involves making suspects believe they're victims rather than perpetrators and offering subtle reassurances.
"Getting him at his job, he's kind of between a rock and a hard place, because he really has nowhere to go," Rosen said. "As a courtesy, I'm like, 'Hey, Ben, I'm not here to tell your job about it, man. I just want to get you outside,' and when someone passes, you kind of lower your voice, because they think in their mind, 'Okay, well, he's being quiet when someone walks past.'"
During the 40-minute confrontation, which was streamed live on the Predator Poacher's Kick account, Naylor admitted to trading child pornography involving "babies and toddlers."
"When they do admit to things, we do call the cops on them," Rosen said.