Is the Map Union Forum operated by LEA?

[girllover]

Sorry for the post. I'm not here to spread any FUD. But I need some assurance from other members and mods here.
Is this forum in any way operated , connected to, or monitored by any LEA? Or is it just a group of activists and like-minded MAPs running it?

Asking this since I had been on some other forums/groups on deepweb and many say any such forum on the clearnet is not truly operated by MAPs.

[PorcelainLark]

Sorry for the post. I'm not here to spread any FUD. But I need some assurance from other members and mods here.
Is this forum in any way operated , connected to, or monitored by any LEA? Or is it just a group of activists and like-minded MAPs running it?

I think it's impossible to know for certain, but I don't feel it's run by law enforcement. I think if it was, why would it try to stay within the bounds of the law? Wouldn't it aim towards entrapping people instead?

Asking this since I had been on some other forums/groups on deepweb and many say any such forum on the clearnet is not truly operated by MAPs.

Considering the aim is spreading ideas, I think it makes sense why MAPs would want to be on the clearnet for that. Plus not every MAP (even pro-contact ones) necessarily wants to be involved in something illegal.

It makes sense, if a person's main interest in the MAP community involves PIM, that you would take it as a given that clearnet sites are run by law enforcement. However, if you have no interest in breaking the law, there isn't really a need to be as cautious.

Also, I'd say every site, on or off the darkweb, is potentially being monitored by law enforcement. That isn't a mark against any site in particular, that's just a consequence of how much surveillance there is.

If you don't talk about anything illegal on the clearnet, what difference does it make if law enforcement sees it?

[G@yWad69]

I can assure you im not a cop lol. But be wary of the “minors” who come on this forum asking to meet up with maps, id say about 70% of AAM seeking out MAPs online are LEA or Chris Hanson wannabes. Theres livestreams on tiktok of people pretending to be minors online to “catch preds”, so I would trust the people who claim to be MAPs as long as they arent suggesting you do anything illegal, and be suspicous of all “AAM”, minor MAPS are probably safe since they arent seeking adult love

[Brain O'Conner]

What does LEA and FUD even mean?

[PorcelainLark]

I can assure you im not a cop lol.

JUST what a cop would say!

But be wary of the “minors” who come on this forum asking to meet up with maps, id say about 70% of AAM seeking out MAPs online are LEA or Chris Hanson wannabes. Theres livestreams on tiktok of people pretending to be minors online to “catch preds”, so I would trust the people who claim to be MAPs as long as they arent suggesting you do anything illegal, and be suspicous of all “AAM”, minor MAPS are probably safe since they arent seeking adult love

This.

What does LEA and FUD even mean?

LEA - Law Enforcement Agency
FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_unc ... _and_doubt

[Fragment]

Well, you can never know 100%.

But I think many people would say I'm one of the least likely people ever to be LEA.

I seriously doubt an LEA would do a 2.5 hour long podcast with an anti arguing pro-c talking points.
I seriously doubt an LEA would invite a female officer posing as his mom to take part in an interview with a BL.
I seriously doubt an LEA would be open about an actual criminal case that is before the Japanese courts.
I seriously doubt an LEA would sometimes spend upwards of 12 hours/ day in BL/ MAP related communities and websites.

I don't think it's ridiculous to say that if you can trust anyone, you can trust me.

And I have extremely strong personal reasons to trust BLR.
And BLR has extremely strong personal reasons to trust Jim.

A bigger risk would be if one of us had our accounts taken over and our style, frequency or mode of communication changed.

That has not happened, as far as I'm aware. There is always risk for MAPs, the second you step online. But the risk of this forum being operated by LEA is minuscule.

[G@yWad69]

Well, you can never know 100%.

But I think many people would say I'm one of the least likely people ever to be LEA.

I seriously doubt an LEA would do a 2.5 hour long podcast with an anti arguing pro-c talking points.
I seriously doubt an LEA would invite a female officer posing as his mom to take part in an interview with a BL.
I seriously doubt an LEA would be open about an actual criminal case that is before the Japanese courts.
I seriously doubt an LEA would sometimes spend upwards of 12 hours/ day in BL/ MAP related communities and websites.

I don't think it's ridiculous to say that if you can trust anyone, you can trust me.

And I have extremely strong personal reasons to trust BLR.
And BLR has extremely strong personal reasons to trust Jim.

A bigger risk would be if one of us had our accounts taken over and our style, frequency or mode of communication changed.

That has not happened, as far as I'm aware. There is always risk for MAPs, the second you step online. But the risk of this forum being operated by LEA is minuscule.

Agreed, I see you everywhere lol, we frequent the same communties

[BLueRibbon]

If you truly care about your safety, you should act as if every MAP site is operated by LEA.

A bigger risk would be if one of us had our accounts taken over and our style, frequency or mode of communication changed.

Which is why the forum software doesn't display IP addresses even to administrators.

[Jim Burton]

The far more likely outcome is that some clearweb and darkweb MAP sites are funded, or underpinned by the three letter agencies, but operated by MAPs who believe they are in receipt of charity. There are a number of reasons intelligence agencies might want some control or oversight, even with the most law-abiding MAP communities. We generally only hear about this happening when a site was set up or taken over with the explicit purpose of entrapping idiots on the DW, or when there was some kind of overreach, which resulted in scandal because a political group, such as environmentalists, were targeted.

[Aspire6]

LE won't reveal themselves, but I'm sure they at least know about the site especially since some normies believe we're breaking laws somehow by talking positively about minor-attraction and think it's worth a report to large government agencies. That never gets anywhere because no laws are being broken and they're just afraid of the discussion.

You also have to remember that LE is trying to get you to break the law, they claim they don't initiate but what they do certainly can be considered entrapment on people desperate for affirmation/security. Australian police for example ran a child pornography site for over 11 months and shared new images frequently. They claim it was "for the greater good". The FBI has done similar in the past too.

In terms of actual LEA here, they aren't engaging in conversations to talk about how we're oppressed or complain about how things are, because to them we're all sexual deviants who deserve no sympathy. They invest money into both the sunk-costs of it all while chasing the high of catching another "pedophile" for political points.

However, you may still get antis trying to "get in" as they believe we're doing something illegal behind the scenes, pretending to be on our side and eventually moving on when they realize we follow the laws.