Do you want to have kids?

[G@yWad69]

I feel it is my DUTY to have kids and raise them RIGHT to combat all the poorly raised hysterical and paranoid and ageist bigots gen z and gen alpha have turned out to be and will raise their kids as. I will raise my kid to be pro contact and based and open minded towards ALL people.

1.I will teach them that sex isnt inherently dangerous and they have the right to consent from BIRTH because they are an autonomous human being who can make their own descions and anyone who tells them they “cant consent” is an ageist sex facist bigot. I will buy them condoms and birth control and teach them safe sex and how to spot sexual and romantic violence

2.I will teach them that pedophiles are mostly good people and that AMSC and PIM is perfectly acceptable and safe as long as bath parties agree and make safe practices

3. I will start giving them sex ed early, starting at age 3, because humans are sexual creatures from birth and even fetuses have been shown to masturbate in the womb so they need to learn about their own body and what their body and other bodies are capable of. Sheltering kids from information about the life they live is BULLSHIT. Antis complain that kids cant give “informed sexual consent” so I will combat that by informing my kid on sex. Any other question they have will be answered to the best of my abillity, no matter how dark or deep, “your too young stop asking about adult buissness” will NEVER be used in my household

4.I will teach them that all age groups (except teenagers /hj) are valuable and have something to offer and that theyre are allowed to be friends with older and younger people

5.I will teach them about MAP sexuality and tell them that it is ok if they like people younger than them and that they can comw to me for ANYTHING

6.I will let them wear and watch what they want. No “tHaTs InNaPrOpRiAtE” NOTHING is “innapropriate” for kids, thats just puritan bullshit. If they want to watch adult cartoons in elementary school I will let them, I will just warn them that it might be graphic so they might not like it, but they also might like it so I wont bar them. If my kid wants to wear a skimpy dress or high heels or makeup I wont restrict them to any age. If my 8 year old daughter came up to me and said she wanted a thong I would by them a little thong or sew one for them

7. I will raise them to be anti censorship and pro fiction. I will teach them that censorship is facist bullshit and fantasy is harmless and had no real bearing on real life unless they are braindead puritians who cant tell fiction from reality. I will encourage them to read all types of fiction, even the “forbidden” books and “aGe InNaPrOpRiATe” books

8. I will NOT infantilize them. Once you reach puberty and are capable of reproduction, you are BIOLOGICALLY AN ADULT. I will not call them a child once they get their first period or make sperm for the first time. I will call them a young man or young women and teach them adult things like paying taxes and choosing a career.I will teach them stuff about adulthood before then of course, I will teach them to cook at 3 and other basics but I will basically train them to be capable of being independent by age 12. I will not wait until an aburd age to potty train them like most Americans do. They have 4 and 5 year olds still shitting their diapers and asking to be changed when they are neurotypical and perfectly physically healthy enough to walk to the bathroom and use the bathroom. I will pitty train my kid as soon as they are able to walk/start playing in their poop/taking off their diaper using elimination communication

9.I will let my kids be INDEPENDENT. The entire goal of raising a kid is to make them functional adults, which modern western society fails at. Now we have 17 year olds calling themselves “children”, and 20 year olds claiming to be hit on by pedophiles. I was at college and a 17 year old inteoduced herself as a child. That stuck with me because she was literally INDISTINCTGUISHIBLE from the legal adults on campus. She looked the exact same as us legal adults, acted the exact same as us legal adults, was only a couple months younger than me, yet im supposed to believe shes in the same age group as a fucking 5 year old. BULLSHIT. We live in an infantile baby society were you stay a “child” for almost an entire quarter of your life with absolutely no basic life skills. I will teach my kid to wash dishes and mop the floors and how to do laundry as soon as 4, of course I will bear most of the responisbillity as a parent but it is their job as a member of this household to help keep their surroundings clean

10. I will teach them to be ACCOUNTABLE for their actions. Their are 16 year olds starting fights with and hurting legal adults then whining about being itty bitty baby minor children who dont know any better and say “yOuR aRguIng WiTh A ChIld”. If I EVER catch my kid saying some bullshit like that they are grounded and will be supervised 24/7 as punishment, since they want to act like a baby who cant be left alone or be reponsible for their actions. I will not take “im a child” as an excuse for ANYTHING except for being to short to reach cupboards, ESPICIALLY once they are a preteen and biologically an adult. If my grown ass 16 year old kid EVER uses that as an excuse I will show them what being an actual child is really like. No cars since children cant drive, no going out with friends without my supervision since they want to act like a toddler who cant be held reponsible for their actions. No unrestricted internet access since they want to be babied and be a “child” so bad. My kids will he RESPONSIBLE for their actions from an early age and if they want to avoid basic accountabillity so bad by pulling the “iM a LiTeRaL MiNoR” card or by infantilizing themselves they will loose the rights that non children have, ESPCIALLY if they are 11-17. One of the most frustrating things that can happen online or in person is a legal minor starting an argument with you or being cruel or harrassing you and then pulling the “im just a bebeh” card when they are old enough and know damn well what they are doing! I saw someone online excusing the fact that they cheated on their girlfriend because “I was only 17 I was just a child.” I saw someone online saying that 15 year olds shouldnt be arrested for murder since they are children and dont understand murder(yet they are supposed to magically be able to understand it just 36 months later lol) Just yesterday some preteen got mad at me and started calling me a pedophile and harrassing me because I gently corrected them that they were using the word wrong and that it only applies to actual children not teenagers and they got mad and pulled the “im just a bebeh” excuse to avoid accountabillity for harrasing me. (Side note, its crazy that even just CORRECTING someone on the actual definition of pedophillia makes you a pedophile nowadays. Everything is pedophillia know, from knowing the definition of words to dating short adults to wearing kids clothes, whatever, just more people to invite the the MAP community as allies. Another time I was fighting with a minor online who was saying that consenual adult sex with roleplay is “BasIcaLLy PdFiLiA”, yes it was ageplay, and I corrected them, and we got in a long argument they pulled the “Im OnLy 14 YoU cAnT hOld Me AcCouNtaBlE fOr tHe StuPiD sHit I sAy OnLinE bEcaUsE Im BasIcaLLy aN InFaNt WhO dRiNks FrOm a BoTtLE” its funny that these preteens and teenagers will be so against age play then treat themselves like toddlers when you hold them accountable for literally anything.The modern day infantilization of teenagers is DISGUSTING and ABSURD, its gotten to the point that teenagers have become “children” children have toddlers and babies and toddlers are treated as brain dead pets. Teenagers will be young ADULTS in my household held to young ADULT standards. They will have ADULT reponsibillity but ADULT freedom and the only thing that will limit them is how far the law goes. I will teach them that for most of human history childhood ended when puberty began so any ADULT their age calling themselves a child is infantile and will do poorly when placed with legal adult responsibillity. You can see it, young legal adults saying that they still feel like children and dont know basics like cleaing or cooking because they have been infantilized as preteens and teens instead of being taught to be adults

11.I will give them unrestricted internet access. I will go in length to teach them basic internet safety but other than that they can use the computer for two hours every day until they are 10, then I will let them monitor their own internet usage. I will buy them a flip phone at age 8 so we can keep in contact and they can call and text friends and an iphone at age 12.

12.They will be allowed to go to sleepovers and play outside and have play dates. I wasnt allowed to do any of this as a child because my parents were worried about “pedophiles” kidnapping me and having sex with me, which is fucking ironic. I will let my kids walk to school alone and will let them stay home alone by age 8. They will have a phone and I will teach them to call me or call 911 if there is an emergency and not to answer the door to strangers

13.I will not beat them, unlike consenual amsc, beating children is genuine child abuse. I was beaten as a kid and it only taught me fear, not life lessons. My kids will have consequneces yes, but not with physical violence. It disgust me that to antis they think that pleasuring a child sexually with the childs enthusiastic agreement is worse than physically assaulting a child and causing them pain and injury. It makes no sense but it is that bullshit anti C logic that I will NOT be teaching my kids

14. I will make sure my kids arent paranoid. I will tell them that their are bad women and men out there who want to hurt them but they are few and far between and that cases of kidnappings, espcially by strangers, is extremely rare. To be careful making friends with strangers and to use common sense and to NEVER get into anyones car if you dont know them or without telling me.

15. If they have an AF or a same aged YF I will not care, I will even be happy for them, even if they are having sex, as long ad the sex is safe, sane, and consenual(and yes, minors CAN consent) I will not intervene except to give them more sex ed and condoms and birth control. I will have no age limit when for when they have sex as long as both parties agree and they do it safely, the only thing I will tell them is that it is illegal so to dont go blabbering about it to friends and family.

16. If they ask me for a sex toy I will buy it for them or give them the money to buy it, yes, even if they are like 6/7. FETUSES MASTURBATE IN THE WOMB. TODDLERS MASTURBATE WITH THEIR STUFFIES. Kids are sexual creatures and I will not hinder their sexual devlopment based on the csa industrial complex and sex faschist hysteria.

17. I will teach them to love and accept every race and gender and sexuality, including MAPness and other paraphiles, and to be open minded and loving towards everyone

18.I will let them have a pet as long ad they have the money and are willing to raise it. Once again, I am teaching RESPONISBILLITY, it is THEIR pet and will be THEIR responisbillity. I will help of course and teach them how but if they abuse or neglect their dog I will rehome it to a safer home. This will teach them that their actions have consequences and to be responisble pet owners and that age is no excuse for being abusive or neglectful unless they are a literal baby or toddler.

19. We will have fun and go on vacation every summer. Hopefully I will have the money but I will aim for my kids to have as much expierences as possible so they can devlop and mature and appreciate the worlds beauty. We will hang out together and be friends. I hate the “I am your mom not your bestie” bs that parents tell their kids. You can be both, you are supposed to be your kids first friend

20. I will not kick them out once they turn 18, they can stay with me as long as they have a job or are in school or are looking for one, I will not let them bum around

21.I will let them drink. I will give them small sips as a kid and let them moderate themselves as a preteen/teenager. If they are becoming an alcoholic I will simply stop buying them alcohol.

22. I will bring them to adult oriented spaces, like knitting groups and work out classes so they can become friends with adults and have more role models

23. I will teach them about politics as early as three, who the president is, what the parties are and represent, and to respect other political views as long as its not something like bigotry and facism

24. I will teach them to read at age three. I learned to read at 4 so this isnt ridiculous

25. I will NOT shame teen pregancy. If they want to get pregant as a teen I will reapesct their body and their choice. I will just warn them that it will be harder since they have no legal rights and that they should be able to support themselves and their child with a stable job

26. I will teach them to be kink positive and pro para

27. I will teach my kids the actual definition of pedophillia, that it only applies to ACTUAL CHILDREN not preteens or teens are are young adults and only classified as “children” based on some ageist laws. If they call someone a pedophile as an insult they will be get in trouble for being bigoted. Same as if they called someone the n word or used any other word as a slur

28. I will teach them that there is nothing special about turning 18 except they get full legal rights besides drinking, smoking, handguns, and some ageist social circles. I will teach them that the brain devloping at 25 is a myth, that the teen brain isnt real, and that even small children are capable of being mature and responsible as long as they are raised right and given room to grow and make their own mistakes instead of being coddled and babied

29.They will have their own bank account as young as 7/8 and I will teach them how to manage money and give them jobs around the house to do for money and let them budget and buy their own clothes and teach them how to buy proper groceries and cook meals

I will nurture their sexual and romantic devlopment without being overbearing instead of completely repressing it like most America parents do

This is the gist of it. I will raise my kids to be independent, reponsible, loving and open minded adults! They will have opportunities to grow and be free instead of being treated like pets or property owned by parents and the government like most parents this age do. I will teach them that age is just a number and if they want to dye their hair, wear fun and skimpy clothes, hang out and party, watch crazy shows, etc, as long as they do it reponisbly and are able to stay on top of grades I will help them. I will teach them that their body is THEIR CHOICE, and that minors CAN CONSENT, wether it comes to getting a piercing or having sex or even their own medical procedures, I will always let my kid have input when going to the doctor and not force them into anything medical as long as its not life threating or they are a toddler or younger

Too many minors and legal young adults today are infantile purtian paranoid sex faschist bigots and will be raising their kids to be just as infantile puritan paranoid, sex faschist and bigoted, I will have FREE RANGE children who can be trusted to make their own descions in life and have autonomy over their own body, the complete opposite of my parents helicopter parenting in my own childhood. I will let my kids hang out with their grandparents but I will tell my parents to back off and let me parent my kids how I want

Thankfully I am NEWSFLASH female so I will be entitled to most of the caretaking and raising and teaching so all of this is possible. The one time I am thankful for strict child rearing gender roles. The only thing I am worried about is finding an open minded father for my kids, hopefully another Pro C non offending MAP like me. Another person who belives in sexual freedom but also has retraint to avoid breaking the law

[Officerkrupke]

Yes, I think being a stay at home Dad would be interesting

[Justincredible]

I feel it is my DUTY to have kids and raise them RIGHT to combat all the poorly raised hysterical and paranoid and ageist bigots gen z and gen alpha have turned out to be and will raise their kids as. I will raise my kid to be pro contact and based and open minded towards ALL people.

1.I will teach them that sex isnt inherently dangerous and they have the right to consent from BIRTH because they are an autonomous human being who can make their own descions and anyone who tells them they “cant consent” is an ageist sex facist bigot. I will buy them condoms and birth control and teach them safe sex and how to spot sexual and romantic violence

2.I will teach them that pedophiles are mostly good people and that AMSC and PIM is perfectly acceptable and safe as long as bath parties agree and make safe practices

3. I will start giving them sex ed early, starting at age 3, because humans are sexual creatures from birth and even fetuses have been shown to masturbate in the womb so they need to learn about their own body and what their body and other bodies are capable of. Sheltering kids from information about the life they live is BULLSHIT. Antis complain that kids cant give “informed sexual consent” so I will combat that by informing my kid on sex. Any other question they have will be answered to the best of my abillity, no matter how dark or deep, “your too young stop asking about adult buissness” will NEVER be used in my household

4.I will teach them that all age groups (except teenagers /hj) are valuable and have something to offer and that theyre are allowed to be friends with older and younger people

5.I will teach them about MAP sexuality and tell them that it is ok if they like people younger than them and that they can comw to me for ANYTHING

6.I will let them wear and watch what they want. No “tHaTs InNaPrOpRiAtE” NOTHING is “innapropriate” for kids, thats just puritan bullshit. If they want to watch adult cartoons in elementary school I will let them, I will just warn them that it might be graphic so they might not like it, but they also might like it so I wont bar them. If my kid wants to wear a skimpy dress or high heels or makeup I wont restrict them to any age. If my 8 year old daughter came up to me and said she wanted a thong I would by them a little thong or sew one for them

7. I will raise them to be anti censorship and pro fiction. I will teach them that censorship is facist bullshit and fantasy is harmless and had no real bearing on real life unless they are braindead puritians who cant tell fiction from reality. I will encourage them to read all types of fiction, even the “forbidden” books and “aGe InNaPrOpRiATe” books

8. I will NOT infantilize them. Once you reach puberty and are capable of reproduction, you are BIOLOGICALLY AN ADULT. I will not call them a child once they get their first period or make sperm for the first time. I will call them a young man or young women and teach them adult things like paying taxes and choosing a career.I will teach them stuff about adulthood before then of course, I will teach them to cook at 3 and other basics but I will basically train them to be capable of being independent by age 12. I will not wait until an aburd age to potty train them like most Americans do. They have 4 and 5 year olds still shitting their diapers and asking to be changed when they are neurotypical and perfectly physically healthy enough to walk to the bathroom and use the bathroom. I will pitty train my kid as soon as they are able to walk/start playing in their poop/taking off their diaper using elimination communication

9.I will let my kids be INDEPENDENT. The entire goal of raising a kid is to make them functional adults, which modern western society fails at. Now we have 17 year olds calling themselves “children”, and 20 year olds claiming to be hit on by pedophiles. I was at college and a 17 year old inteoduced herself as a child. That stuck with me because she was literally INDISTINCTGUISHIBLE from the legal adults on campus. She looked the exact same as us legal adults, acted the exact same as us legal adults, was only a couple months younger than me, yet im supposed to believe shes in the same age group as a fucking 5 year old. BULLSHIT. We live in an infantile baby society were you stay a “child” for almost an entire quarter of your life with absolutely no basic life skills. I will teach my kid to wash dishes and mop the floors and how to do laundry as soon as 4, of course I will bear most of the responisbillity as a parent but it is their job as a member of this household to help keep their surroundings clean

10. I will teach them to be ACCOUNTABLE for their actions. Their are 16 year olds starting fights with and hurting legal adults then whining about being itty bitty baby minor children who dont know any better and say “yOuR aRguIng WiTh A ChIld”. If I EVER catch my kid saying some bullshit like that they are grounded and will be supervised 24/7 as punishment, since they want to act like a baby who cant be left alone or be reponsible for their actions. I will not take “im a child” as an excuse for ANYTHING except for being to short to reach cupboards, ESPICIALLY once they are a preteen and biologically an adult. If my grown ass 16 year old kid EVER uses that as an excuse I will show them what being an actual child is really like. No cars since children cant drive, no going out with friends without my supervision since they want to act like a toddler who cant be held reponsible for their actions. No unrestricted internet access since they want to be babied and be a “child” so bad. My kids will he RESPONSIBLE for their actions from an early age and if they want to avoid basic accountabillity so bad by pulling the “iM a LiTeRaL MiNoR” card or by infantilizing themselves they will loose the rights that non children have, ESPCIALLY if they are 11-17. One of the most frustrating things that can happen online or in person is a legal minor starting an argument with you or being cruel or harrassing you and then pulling the “im just a bebeh” card when they are old enough and know damn well what they are doing! I saw someone online excusing the fact that they cheated on their girlfriend because “I was only 17 I was just a child.” I saw someone online saying that 15 year olds shouldnt be arrested for murder since they are children and dont understand murder(yet they are supposed to magically be able to understand it just 36 months later lol) Just yesterday some preteen got mad at me and started calling me a pedophile and harrassing me because I gently corrected them that they were using the word wrong and that it only applies to actual children not teenagers and they got mad and pulled the “im just a bebeh” excuse to avoid accountabillity for harrasing me. (Side note, its crazy that even just CORRECTING someone on the actual definition of pedophillia makes you a pedophile nowadays. Everything is pedophillia know, from knowing the definition of words to dating short adults to wearing kids clothes, whatever, just more people to invite the the MAP community as allies. Another time I was fighting with a minor online who was saying that consenual adult sex with roleplay is “BasIcaLLy PdFiLiA”, yes it was ageplay, and I corrected them, and we got in a long argument they pulled the “Im OnLy 14 YoU cAnT hOld Me AcCouNtaBlE fOr tHe StuPiD sHit I sAy OnLinE bEcaUsE Im BasIcaLLy aN InFaNt WhO dRiNks FrOm a BoTtLE” its funny that these preteens and teenagers will be so against age play then treat themselves like toddlers when you hold them accountable for literally anything.The modern day infantilization of teenagers is DISGUSTING and ABSURD, its gotten to the point that teenagers have become “children” children have toddlers and babies and toddlers are treated as brain dead pets. Teenagers will be young ADULTS in my household held to young ADULT standards. They will have ADULT reponsibillity but ADULT freedom and the only thing that will limit them is how far the law goes. I will teach them that for most of human history childhood ended when puberty began so any ADULT their age calling themselves a child is infantile and will do poorly when placed with legal adult responsibillity. You can see it, young legal adults saying that they still feel like children and dont know basics like cleaing or cooking because they have been infantilized as preteens and teens instead of being taught to be adults

11.I will give them unrestricted internet access. I will go in length to teach them basic internet safety but other than that they can use the computer for two hours every day until they are 10, then I will let them monitor their own internet usage. I will buy them a flip phone at age 8 so we can keep in contact and they can call and text friends and an iphone at age 12.

12.They will be allowed to go to sleepovers and play outside and have play dates. I wasnt allowed to do any of this as a child because my parents were worried about “pedophiles” kidnapping me and having sex with me, which is fucking ironic. I will let my kids walk to school alone and will let them stay home alone by age 8. They will have a phone and I will teach them to call me or call 911 if there is an emergency and not to answer the door to strangers

13.I will not beat them, unlike consenual amsc, beating children is genuine child abuse. I was beaten as a kid and it only taught me fear, not life lessons. My kids will have consequneces yes, but not with physical violence. It disgust me that to antis they think that pleasuring a child sexually with the childs enthusiastic agreement is worse than physically assaulting a child and causing them pain and injury. It makes no sense but it is that bullshit anti C logic that I will NOT be teaching my kids

14. I will make sure my kids arent paranoid. I will tell them that their are bad women and men out there who want to hurt them but they are few and far between and that cases of kidnappings, espcially by strangers, is extremely rare. To be careful making friends with strangers and to use common sense and to NEVER get into anyones car if you dont know them or without telling me.

15. If they have an AF or a same aged YF I will not care, I will even be happy for them, even if they are having sex, as long ad the sex is safe, sane, and consenual(and yes, minors CAN consent) I will not intervene except to give them more sex ed and condoms and birth control. I will have no age limit when for when they have sex as long as both parties agree and they do it safely, the only thing I will tell them is that it is illegal so to dont go blabbering about it to friends and family.

16. If they ask me for a sex toy I will buy it for them or give them the money to buy it, yes, even if they are like 6/7. FETUSES MASTURBATE IN THE WOMB. TODDLERS MASTURBATE WITH THEIR STUFFIES. Kids are sexual creatures and I will not hinder their sexual devlopment based on the csa industrial complex and sex faschist hysteria.

17. I will teach them to love and accept every race and gender and sexuality, including MAPness and other paraphiles, and to be open minded and loving towards everyone

18.I will let them have a pet as long ad they have the money and are willing to raise it. Once again, I am teaching RESPONISBILLITY, it is THEIR pet and will be THEIR responisbillity. I will help of course and teach them how but if they abuse or neglect their dog I will rehome it to a safer home. This will teach them that their actions have consequences and to be responisble pet owners and that age is no excuse for being abusive or neglectful unless they are a literal baby or toddler.

19. We will have fun and go on vacation every summer. Hopefully I will have the money but I will aim for my kids to have as much expierences as possible so they can devlop and mature and appreciate the worlds beauty. We will hang out together and be friends. I hate the “I am your mom not your bestie” bs that parents tell their kids. You can be both, you are supposed to be your kids first friend

20. I will not kick them out once they turn 18, they can stay with me as long as they have a job or are in school or are looking for one, I will not let them bum around

21.I will let them drink. I will give them small sips as a kid and let them moderate themselves as a preteen/teenager. If they are becoming an alcoholic I will simply stop buying them alcohol.

22. I will bring them to adult oriented spaces, like knitting groups and work out classes so they can become friends with adults and have more role models

23. I will teach them about politics as early as three, who the president is, what the parties are and represent, and to respect other political views as long as its not something like bigotry and facism

24. I will teach them to read at age three. I learned to read at 4 so this isnt ridiculous

25. I will NOT shame teen pregancy. If they want to get pregant as a teen I will reapesct their body and their choice. I will just warn them that it will be harder since they have no legal rights and that they should be able to support themselves and their child with a stable job

26. I will teach them to be kink positive and pro para

27. I will teach my kids the actual definition of pedophillia, that it only applies to ACTUAL CHILDREN not preteens or teens are are young adults and only classified as “children” based on some ageist laws. If they call someone a pedophile as an insult they will be get in trouble for being bigoted. Same as if they called someone the n word or used any other word as a slur

28. I will teach them that there is nothing special about turning 18 except they get full legal rights besides drinking, smoking, handguns, and some ageist social circles. I will teach them that the brain devloping at 25 is a myth, that the teen brain isnt real, and that even small children are capable of being mature and responsible as long as they are raised right and given room to grow and make their own mistakes instead of being coddled and babied

29.They will have their own bank account as young as 7/8 and I will teach them how to manage money and give them jobs around the house to do for money and let them budget and buy their own clothes and teach them how to buy proper groceries and cook meals

I will nurture their sexual and romantic devlopment without being overbearing instead of completely repressing it like most America parents do

This is the gist of it. I will raise my kids to be independent, reponsible, loving and open minded adults! They will have opportunities to grow and be free instead of being treated like pets or property owned by parents and the government like most parents this age do. I will teach them that age is just a number and if they want to dye their hair, wear fun and skimpy clothes, hang out and party, watch crazy shows, etc, as long as they do it reponisbly and are able to stay on top of grades I will help them. I will teach them that their body is THEIR CHOICE, and that minors CAN CONSENT, wether it comes to getting a piercing or having sex or even their own medical procedures, I will always let my kid have input when going to the doctor and not force them into anything medical as long as its not life threating or they are a toddler or younger

Too many minors and legal young adults today are infantile purtian paranoid sex faschist bigots and will be raising their kids to be just as infantile puritan paranoid, sex faschist and bigoted, I will have FREE RANGE children who can be trusted to make their own descions in life and have autonomy over their own body, the complete opposite of my parents helicopter parenting in my own childhood. I will let my kids hang out with their grandparents but I will tell my parents to back off and let me parent my kids how I want

Thankfully I am NEWSFLASH female so I will be entitled to most of the caretaking and raising and teaching so all of this is possible. The one time I am thankful for strict child rearing gender roles. The only thing I am worried about is finding an open minded father for my kids, hopefully another Pro C non offending MAP like me. Another person who belives in sexual freedom but also has retraint to avoid breaking the law

I admire your passion and enthusiasm!! Big hugs to you

Unfortunately, we live in a world where our government has a tremendous amount of authority when it comes to children.

Child protective services can literally show up with a police officer and demand to inspect your home, simply because someone made a report that your house was dirty or you didn't have enough food. Let alone promoting AMSC.

Believe me, I know your heart is in the right place... But the practicality of those views would have to be implemented with much more subtlety.

But overall, I agree that if we are ever going to live in a world where Maps are accepted.. we will have to stop infantilizing kids. And more education and destigmatization on the subject would be greatly needed.

What upsets me is that our society just picks and chooses what they consider a child whenever it's convenient.

A 16 yr old girl can drive, get a job, pay taxes, be criminally charged as an adult.. compete in professional sports (like they do in the X Games). .. yet she's just a poor innocent child if she wants to be intimate with her 22 yr old bf. Smh

[G@yWad69]

I feel it is my DUTY to have kids and raise them RIGHT to combat all the poorly raised hysterical and paranoid and ageist bigots gen z and gen alpha have turned out to be and will raise their kids as. I will raise my kid to be pro contact and based and open minded towards ALL people.

1.I will teach them that sex isnt inherently dangerous and they have the right to consent from BIRTH because they are an autonomous human being who can make their own descions and anyone who tells them they “cant consent” is an ageist sex facist bigot. I will buy them condoms and birth control and teach them safe sex and how to spot sexual and romantic violence

2.I will teach them that pedophiles are mostly good people and that AMSC and PIM is perfectly acceptable and safe as long as bath parties agree and make safe practices

3. I will start giving them sex ed early, starting at age 3, because humans are sexual creatures from birth and even fetuses have been shown to masturbate in the womb so they need to learn about their own body and what their body and other bodies are capable of. Sheltering kids from information about the life they live is BULLSHIT. Antis complain that kids cant give “informed sexual consent” so I will combat that by informing my kid on sex. Any other question they have will be answered to the best of my abillity, no matter how dark or deep, “your too young stop asking about adult buissness” will NEVER be used in my household

4.I will teach them that all age groups (except teenagers /hj) are valuable and have something to offer and that theyre are allowed to be friends with older and younger people

5.I will teach them about MAP sexuality and tell them that it is ok if they like people younger than them and that they can comw to me for ANYTHING

6.I will let them wear and watch what they want. No “tHaTs InNaPrOpRiAtE” NOTHING is “innapropriate” for kids, thats just puritan bullshit. If they want to watch adult cartoons in elementary school I will let them, I will just warn them that it might be graphic so they might not like it, but they also might like it so I wont bar them. If my kid wants to wear a skimpy dress or high heels or makeup I wont restrict them to any age. If my 8 year old daughter came up to me and said she wanted a thong I would by them a little thong or sew one for them

7. I will raise them to be anti censorship and pro fiction. I will teach them that censorship is facist bullshit and fantasy is harmless and had no real bearing on real life unless they are braindead puritians who cant tell fiction from reality. I will encourage them to read all types of fiction, even the “forbidden” books and “aGe InNaPrOpRiATe” books

8. I will NOT infantilize them. Once you reach puberty and are capable of reproduction, you are BIOLOGICALLY AN ADULT. I will not call them a child once they get their first period or make sperm for the first time. I will call them a young man or young women and teach them adult things like paying taxes and choosing a career.I will teach them stuff about adulthood before then of course, I will teach them to cook at 3 and other basics but I will basically train them to be capable of being independent by age 12. I will not wait until an aburd age to potty train them like most Americans do. They have 4 and 5 year olds still shitting their diapers and asking to be changed when they are neurotypical and perfectly physically healthy enough to walk to the bathroom and use the bathroom. I will pitty train my kid as soon as they are able to walk/start playing in their poop/taking off their diaper using elimination communication

9.I will let my kids be INDEPENDENT. The entire goal of raising a kid is to make them functional adults, which modern western society fails at. Now we have 17 year olds calling themselves “children”, and 20 year olds claiming to be hit on by pedophiles. I was at college and a 17 year old inteoduced herself as a child. That stuck with me because she was literally INDISTINCTGUISHIBLE from the legal adults on campus. She looked the exact same as us legal adults, acted the exact same as us legal adults, was only a couple months younger than me, yet im supposed to believe shes in the same age group as a fucking 5 year old. BULLSHIT. We live in an infantile baby society were you stay a “child” for almost an entire quarter of your life with absolutely no basic life skills. I will teach my kid to wash dishes and mop the floors and how to do laundry as soon as 4, of course I will bear most of the responisbillity as a parent but it is their job as a member of this household to help keep their surroundings clean

10. I will teach them to be ACCOUNTABLE for their actions. Their are 16 year olds starting fights with and hurting legal adults then whining about being itty bitty baby minor children who dont know any better and say “yOuR aRguIng WiTh A ChIld”. If I EVER catch my kid saying some bullshit like that they are grounded and will be supervised 24/7 as punishment, since they want to act like a baby who cant be left alone or be reponsible for their actions. I will not take “im a child” as an excuse for ANYTHING except for being to short to reach cupboards, ESPICIALLY once they are a preteen and biologically an adult. If my grown ass 16 year old kid EVER uses that as an excuse I will show them what being an actual child is really like. No cars since children cant drive, no going out with friends without my supervision since they want to act like a toddler who cant be held reponsible for their actions. No unrestricted internet access since they want to be babied and be a “child” so bad. My kids will he RESPONSIBLE for their actions from an early age and if they want to avoid basic accountabillity so bad by pulling the “iM a LiTeRaL MiNoR” card or by infantilizing themselves they will loose the rights that non children have, ESPCIALLY if they are 11-17. One of the most frustrating things that can happen online or in person is a legal minor starting an argument with you or being cruel or harrassing you and then pulling the “im just a bebeh” card when they are old enough and know damn well what they are doing! I saw someone online excusing the fact that they cheated on their girlfriend because “I was only 17 I was just a child.” I saw someone online saying that 15 year olds shouldnt be arrested for murder since they are children and dont understand murder(yet they are supposed to magically be able to understand it just 36 months later lol) Just yesterday some preteen got mad at me and started calling me a pedophile and harrassing me because I gently corrected them that they were using the word wrong and that it only applies to actual children not teenagers and they got mad and pulled the “im just a bebeh” excuse to avoid accountabillity for harrasing me. (Side note, its crazy that even just CORRECTING someone on the actual definition of pedophillia makes you a pedophile nowadays. Everything is pedophillia know, from knowing the definition of words to dating short adults to wearing kids clothes, whatever, just more people to invite the the MAP community as allies. Another time I was fighting with a minor online who was saying that consenual adult sex with roleplay is “BasIcaLLy PdFiLiA”, yes it was ageplay, and I corrected them, and we got in a long argument they pulled the “Im OnLy 14 YoU cAnT hOld Me AcCouNtaBlE fOr tHe StuPiD sHit I sAy OnLinE bEcaUsE Im BasIcaLLy aN InFaNt WhO dRiNks FrOm a BoTtLE” its funny that these preteens and teenagers will be so against age play then treat themselves like toddlers when you hold them accountable for literally anything.The modern day infantilization of teenagers is DISGUSTING and ABSURD, its gotten to the point that teenagers have become “children” children have toddlers and babies and toddlers are treated as brain dead pets. Teenagers will be young ADULTS in my household held to young ADULT standards. They will have ADULT reponsibillity but ADULT freedom and the only thing that will limit them is how far the law goes. I will teach them that for most of human history childhood ended when puberty began so any ADULT their age calling themselves a child is infantile and will do poorly when placed with legal adult responsibillity. You can see it, young legal adults saying that they still feel like children and dont know basics like cleaing or cooking because they have been infantilized as preteens and teens instead of being taught to be adults

11.I will give them unrestricted internet access. I will go in length to teach them basic internet safety but other than that they can use the computer for two hours every day until they are 10, then I will let them monitor their own internet usage. I will buy them a flip phone at age 8 so we can keep in contact and they can call and text friends and an iphone at age 12.

12.They will be allowed to go to sleepovers and play outside and have play dates. I wasnt allowed to do any of this as a child because my parents were worried about “pedophiles” kidnapping me and having sex with me, which is fucking ironic. I will let my kids walk to school alone and will let them stay home alone by age 8. They will have a phone and I will teach them to call me or call 911 if there is an emergency and not to answer the door to strangers

13.I will not beat them, unlike consenual amsc, beating children is genuine child abuse. I was beaten as a kid and it only taught me fear, not life lessons. My kids will have consequneces yes, but not with physical violence. It disgust me that to antis they think that pleasuring a child sexually with the childs enthusiastic agreement is worse than physically assaulting a child and causing them pain and injury. It makes no sense but it is that bullshit anti C logic that I will NOT be teaching my kids

14. I will make sure my kids arent paranoid. I will tell them that their are bad women and men out there who want to hurt them but they are few and far between and that cases of kidnappings, espcially by strangers, is extremely rare. To be careful making friends with strangers and to use common sense and to NEVER get into anyones car if you dont know them or without telling me.

15. If they have an AF or a same aged YF I will not care, I will even be happy for them, even if they are having sex, as long ad the sex is safe, sane, and consenual(and yes, minors CAN consent) I will not intervene except to give them more sex ed and condoms and birth control. I will have no age limit when for when they have sex as long as both parties agree and they do it safely, the only thing I will tell them is that it is illegal so to dont go blabbering about it to friends and family.

16. If they ask me for a sex toy I will buy it for them or give them the money to buy it, yes, even if they are like 6/7. FETUSES MASTURBATE IN THE WOMB. TODDLERS MASTURBATE WITH THEIR STUFFIES. Kids are sexual creatures and I will not hinder their sexual devlopment based on the csa industrial complex and sex faschist hysteria.

17. I will teach them to love and accept every race and gender and sexuality, including MAPness and other paraphiles, and to be open minded and loving towards everyone

18.I will let them have a pet as long ad they have the money and are willing to raise it. Once again, I am teaching RESPONISBILLITY, it is THEIR pet and will be THEIR responisbillity. I will help of course and teach them how but if they abuse or neglect their dog I will rehome it to a safer home. This will teach them that their actions have consequences and to be responisble pet owners and that age is no excuse for being abusive or neglectful unless they are a literal baby or toddler.

19. We will have fun and go on vacation every summer. Hopefully I will have the money but I will aim for my kids to have as much expierences as possible so they can devlop and mature and appreciate the worlds beauty. We will hang out together and be friends. I hate the “I am your mom not your bestie” bs that parents tell their kids. You can be both, you are supposed to be your kids first friend

20. I will not kick them out once they turn 18, they can stay with me as long as they have a job or are in school or are looking for one, I will not let them bum around

21.I will let them drink. I will give them small sips as a kid and let them moderate themselves as a preteen/teenager. If they are becoming an alcoholic I will simply stop buying them alcohol.

22. I will bring them to adult oriented spaces, like knitting groups and work out classes so they can become friends with adults and have more role models

23. I will teach them about politics as early as three, who the president is, what the parties are and represent, and to respect other political views as long as its not something like bigotry and facism

24. I will teach them to read at age three. I learned to read at 4 so this isnt ridiculous

25. I will NOT shame teen pregancy. If they want to get pregant as a teen I will reapesct their body and their choice. I will just warn them that it will be harder since they have no legal rights and that they should be able to support themselves and their child with a stable job

26. I will teach them to be kink positive and pro para

27. I will teach my kids the actual definition of pedophillia, that it only applies to ACTUAL CHILDREN not preteens or teens are are young adults and only classified as “children” based on some ageist laws. If they call someone a pedophile as an insult they will be get in trouble for being bigoted. Same as if they called someone the n word or used any other word as a slur

28. I will teach them that there is nothing special about turning 18 except they get full legal rights besides drinking, smoking, handguns, and some ageist social circles. I will teach them that the brain devloping at 25 is a myth, that the teen brain isnt real, and that even small children are capable of being mature and responsible as long as they are raised right and given room to grow and make their own mistakes instead of being coddled and babied

29.They will have their own bank account as young as 7/8 and I will teach them how to manage money and give them jobs around the house to do for money and let them budget and buy their own clothes and teach them how to buy proper groceries and cook meals

I will nurture their sexual and romantic devlopment without being overbearing instead of completely repressing it like most America parents do

This is the gist of it. I will raise my kids to be independent, reponsible, loving and open minded adults! They will have opportunities to grow and be free instead of being treated like pets or property owned by parents and the government like most parents this age do. I will teach them that age is just a number and if they want to dye their hair, wear fun and skimpy clothes, hang out and party, watch crazy shows, etc, as long as they do it reponisbly and are able to stay on top of grades I will help them. I will teach them that their body is THEIR CHOICE, and that minors CAN CONSENT, wether it comes to getting a piercing or having sex or even their own medical procedures, I will always let my kid have input when going to the doctor and not force them into anything medical as long as its not life threating or they are a toddler or younger

Too many minors and legal young adults today are infantile purtian paranoid sex faschist bigots and will be raising their kids to be just as infantile puritan paranoid, sex faschist and bigoted, I will have FREE RANGE children who can be trusted to make their own descions in life and have autonomy over their own body, the complete opposite of my parents helicopter parenting in my own childhood. I will let my kids hang out with their grandparents but I will tell my parents to back off and let me parent my kids how I want

Thankfully I am NEWSFLASH female so I will be entitled to most of the caretaking and raising and teaching so all of this is possible. The one time I am thankful for strict child rearing gender roles. The only thing I am worried about is finding an open minded father for my kids, hopefully another Pro C non offending MAP like me. Another person who belives in sexual freedom but also has retraint to avoid breaking the law

I admire your passion and enthusiasm!! Big hugs to you

Unfortunately, we live in a world where our government has a tremendous amount of authority when it comes to children.

Child protective services can literally show up with a police officer and demand to inspect your home, simply because someone made a report that your house was dirty or you didn't have enough food. Let alone promoting AMSC.

Believe me, I know your heart is in the right place... But the practicality of those views would have to be implemented with much more subtlety.

But overall, I agree that if we are ever going to live in a world where Maps are accepted.. we will have to stop infantilizing kids. And more education and destigmatization on the subject would be greatly needed.

What upsets me is that our society just picks and chooses what they consider a child whenever it's convenient.

A 16 yr old girl can drive, get a job, pay taxes, be criminally charged as an adult.. compete in professional sports (like they do in the X Games). .. yet she's just a poor innocent child if she wants to be intimate with her 22 yr old bf. Smh

That 16 year old bebeh who drives and works and is working towards living alone and has been to jail for several years cannot POSSIBLY handle the complex mature adult complex complexity and have the brain devlopment needed to give a man a sloppy toppy! Lol

[PorcelainLark]

Yes. I'd like to have a family to support me when I'm old, plus I enjoy teaching. Showing there's no danger in a MAP becoming a parent is a motivation too.

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I have a daughter. I agree with most of your statements. A few things to consider, though.

You will likely be raising your kid with your wife who will probably have a more important role than you. Child raising philosophy is something you’ll need to talk about and negotiate.

As Justin said, there are some things on your list that are just illegal. Or at the very least will raise red flags.

You will be raising your kid as part of society. You have a responsibility to ensure they can integrate in that society. If they are too radically different then I think you might actually be causing problems which is irresponsible. Even if you promote nudism you can’t have your kid just randomly take off their clothes at kindergarten.

There are individual differences. Some foetuses might masturbate. My daughter didn’t show any interest in it as a toddler. Introducing her to masturbation would’ve been imposing my ideas onto her, not letting her explore freely.

I think the timeline may be a little different to what you’re imagining. At least for most kids. A 3 year old often is only just starting to ask about genitals. They might be interested in learning to read, but they might not. Especially if they’ve gotten into tech, which they likely will. Unless you’re willing to go without a phone yourself. That’s probably the only way you could raise a kid without screens.

I think you’re also missing one thing. All of this philosophy comes crashing against the reality of a kid that is hungry, tired or uncooperative. Recognizing the individuality of your kid also means accepting that they might reject all of your teachings- including sex positive ones. Rather than being happy you taught them about sex, your. 14-year-old might learn differently at school, believe that, and report you as a groomer. You need to be prepared for THAT possibility, too.

But overall, I do think the general direction of your parenting philosophy is sound. Just recognize the limits of philosophy in parenting.

(Also please don’t quote the entirety of such long posts! Clip part of it and just quote that.)

[G@yWad69]

I have a daughter. I agree with most of your statements. A few things to consider, though.

You will likely be raising your kid with your wife who will probably have a more important role than you. Child raising philosophy is something you’ll need to talk about and negotiate.

As Justin said, there are some things on your list that are just illegal. Or at the very least will raise red flags.

You will be raising your kid as part of society. You have a responsibility to ensure they can integrate in that society. If they are too radically different then I think you might actually be causing problems which is irresponsible. Even if you promote nudism you can’t have your kid just randomly take off their clothes at kindergarten.

There are individual differences. Some foetuses might masturbate. My daughter didn’t show any interest in it as a toddler. Introducing her to masturbation would’ve been imposing my ideas onto her, not letting her explore freely.

I think the timeline may be a little different to what you’re imagining. At least for most kids. A 3 year old often is only just starting to ask about genitals. They might be interested in learning to read, but they might not. Especially if they’ve gotten into tech, which they likely will. Unless you’re willing to go without a phone yourself. That’s probably the only way you could raise a kid without screens.

I think you’re also missing one thing. All of this philosophy comes crashing against the reality of a kid that is hungry, tired or uncooperative. Recognizing the individuality of your kid also means accepting that they might reject all of your teachings- including sex positive ones. Rather than being happy you taught them about sex, your. 14-year-old might learn differently at school, believe that, and report you as a groomer. You need to be prepared for THAT possibility, too.

But overall, I do think the general direction of your parenting philosophy is sound. Just recognize the limits of philosophy in parenting.

(Also please don’t quote the entirety of such long posts! Clip part of it and just quote that.)

Im female. IM the one with the most important role lol. Thats one of the reasons I am excited to have kids, I fully control the narrative. But I agree with what you say, I will be subtle about it, but still sex positive, I am prepared for the posibillity that my kid will be another sex facist and hate me, but I need to at least try

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Oh, sorry! I thought I had kept mental notes about which members were female.

In that case, you're right, that you do have a bigger role in setting the agenda. And you're also more likely to escape social sanctions and accusations.

You might even be able to raise your own biological kids without a man. Though if you keep the dad around he might worry about what you are teaching.

[RoosterDance]

12.They will be allowed to go to sleepovers and play outside and have play dates. I wasnt allowed to do any of this as a child because my parents were worried about “pedophiles” kidnapping me and having sex with me, which is fucking ironic.

I genuinely laughed out loud at this.

But anyway, I agree with most of your points and have been thinking similarly, though I am not interested in having children of my own.

But even if I did, my biggest worry is how much authority the government would exert over their lives, much like what Justincredible brought up. This is especially true of how they handle schooling. I am personally have trepidation about putting my hypothetical kids though public school as it is now, (Dare I rather say public indoctrination) but if I refuse to cooperate with that system the government would just throw me in prison, steal away my kids, and force them to do it anyway. Private schools are not any better. I'd lean much more towards homeschooling, but I'm not sure how much control the government exerts over that.

Western governments have way too much power over people's personal lives, and especially the children. It's probably why they're so invested in maintaining the "innocent child" narrative.

[Justincredible]

(Also please don’t quote the entirety of such long posts! Clip part of it and just quote that.)

I've actually struggled on how to do this myself, but I think I figured it out... Do you basically just click "preview" .. and then respond to and/or delete the sections you don't want included in the reply?