I dont trust healthcare workers, and you shouldnt either

[G@yWad69]

Doesnt any else find extremely suspicous, that seemingly out of nowhere, all these healthcare “professionals” want to work with us and “treat” us. That after decades upon decades of pushing information out to the general public based on cherry picked and biased research about how pedophiles are dangerous ravenous non human creatures lurking in the shadows waiting to soul murder your kid and that how a child having sex basically murders their soul, that they suddenly want to work with pedophiles and want the general public to see us differently.

Like yeah, sure, im gonna trust the very same people that are funded by the very same goverment that passess laws to throw us in prison, execute us, and spreads fearmongering “psa’s” to brainwash the general public into hating us. Not to mention, it makes no sense. These “professionals” act like their on our side “why are pedophiles seen so negatively? They are just innocent little bebehs with a mental illness “ and then a week later they will publish an article like “This is how those dangerous evil pedos rape and torture and murder your kids and ruin them forever”. Like my guys, YALL are a big part of the reason why the antis dont like us, and now yall suddenly want to switch up and act like the solution to the very problem you caused. And they will always be like “get therapy” and “seek mental health”. But therapists and nurses admit they hate pedos and want nothing to do with us. Which is honestly great because we want nothing to do with them either

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... edophiles/

Healthcare professional admits that she refuses to give treatment to pedophiles and sex offenders

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3414002506

https://www.reddit.com/r/TalkTherapy/co ... herapists/

Research showing that healthcare professionals either refuse to work with pedos or purposefully substandard care compared to other patients

MAP treated poorly or out right refused care by healthcare professionals after coming out

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... advice_on/

Nurse refuses to give same quality of care to pedo patient as she would other patients

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... _patients/

Healthcare professional feels disgusted after finding out she took care of a pedophile

So now we have this funny little game of cat and mouse where healthcare professionals will claim publicly that pedos need professional help and need to work with healthcare professionals, but behind closed doors admit that they purposefully sabotage and give substandard care to pedophiles or outright refuse to work with us. And here come the regular antis “if ur a p3d0 and not seeking help from therapists ur a bad and evil pos”. How about you go fuck yourself? How about you try coming out as the most hated and demonized minority in the modern day to someone you know hates you and doesnt see you as human and could easily report you to the feds and get your social and possibly legal life irreparably destroyed based on extremely purposefully vague mandatory reporting laws?

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1433852/

Not to mention Coalinga State prison, where pedophiles are locked up indefinently, for DEACDES after their sentence because they are seen as too “mentally ill” to be let out into the gen pop. The pedos talk about how they are mistreated and abused by staff while the biased interviewer harrass them non stop. So if you have sex with ten minors but you arent a pedophile ypu onky have to serve your sentence and then get released. But if you have sex with 2 little girls but your a pedo you are too “mentally ill” to ever be released and get impriosoned indefenintly? What evil fucking nonsense, they dont even do this with actual mental people, like schizos and shit.

This is the reason why I fight so hard against the ped med mentaillity (that pedophilia is a mental illness and needs “treatment”). Not only is it pathologizing normal human sexual deviances, but it also provides a convienent excuse for antis to avoid critiquing and examining the way their culture is set up and place all the blame on us for just having “bad brains”. It is also extrenely removed from other genuine mental illness, because unlike something like schizophrenia or bipolar, which causes problems no matter the culture and no matter the law, pedophillia is only a problem based on your culture and laws.

In cultures where pedophillia is accepted or legalized(Like America back when the age of consent was as low as 7), it would be ridiculous to claim that everyone was “mentally ill”. But now that its frowned upon and illegal it is magically a mental illness? So offending pedophiles are mentally ill because what they do is illegal(all it takes to be mentally ill is to commit a crime??What if you have sex with a minor in a country where it is legal, then do you magically stop being mentally ill??). And non offending pedos who feel distressed because of societal shame are mentally ill(because being a hated and demonized minority and taking on internalized shame from the constant societal abuse means your mentally ill apperantly??).

It creates an abritrary divide desgined to split pedophiles, and hebephiles/ephebphiles apart, and that is by design. Have you ever found it really strange and suspicous that pubescent and postpubsecent minors are called “children” by antis(including researchers), that antis will act like there is absoultely zero fuctional difference between a 17 year old and a 7 year old because they are both “innnocent little girls being groomed by evil pedos”. That a 20 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend is seen as just as evil as a 50 year old anally raping an infant because either way its “pedophillia” and “an innocent child getting raped” and should carry the exact same legal penalty. That being sexually attracted to a 17 year old who looks 18 with big boobs, an hourglass figure, pubic hair, who has fully finished puberty, is the exact same level of deviancy as being attracted to a flat chested 3 yesr old girl who wont even BEGIN to start puberty for the next almost decade because they are both “children”? Yet despite all that, researchers only want to classify being attracted to preoubscent minors as a “mental illness”?

So im supposed to belive that 17 year olds are children, and that being attracted to a 17 year old who looks indisguinshable from a 20 makes you an evil degenerate, that a 17 year old who can drive, work a job, fight in the military, live alone(if emancipated), drink in some countries, get married, go to college, who is fully finished with puberty, and smokes weed on the weekends and is facing prison time for sexually harrasing his classmates, is a not only a child, but on the exact same devlopmental level as a 3 year old?? And that being attracted to someone who looks 18, acts 18, and is functionally an adult in every way shape and form but some arbritray non biology based law, is just as deviant as being attracted to a 3 year old, but for some strange reason, only one is classified as a mental illness but the other isnt?

Nonono, you cant have your cake and eat it too, either you admit that there is a big ass difference between a postpubscent almost 18 year old “child” and an actual preubpescent child, or you classify all the chronophillias aimed at minors to be mental illness too. All these hypocritical antis will say that 13-17 year olds are “children” and “little kids” and that being attracted to them means there is something fundamentally wrong with you and should serve the exact same penalty as getting with a daycare aged toddler and has the exact same “trauma response”, but will get all pissy and defensive if you try to label hebephilia or ephebophillia as a mental disorder. Either they are ALL mental disorders, or none of them are. Either ALL minors are innocent little sexually naive children, or you admit that you are infantlzing older minors for your puritan agenda. Either stay strong on your stance that being attracted to a 17 year old a day under 18 is just as deviant and rare as being attracted to a baby, or admit that the legal line is arbitrary and that older minors are physically adults and that our culture/law infantilizes them. I wouldn't be surpirsed if researchers classified pedophillia like this on purpose to drive a bigger rift in our community, so that hebes and ephebes can live in the fabtasy lala land that they can be accepted by society and will have an excuse to avoid collberating with pedos. “Even though society hates us and wants us dead for finding jailbait hot, I could never work with pedos because unlike us, they are insane!” (Actual logic ive heard from a teen lover btw).

I actually hope that researchers end up classifying hebe and ephebophillia as mental disorders, because most people have an attraction to post pubescent teenage-I mean “children”.(because post pubscent “children” are identical to young legals and the only thing that makes them “children” is our infantlizing culture and laws, unlike actual elementary aged children). Because it will help people realize how common Mapness is and how normal it is and how stupid anti logic is

It also gives mental health “proffesionals” to throw us in a mental “hospital”(glorfied prison) for the rest of our natural lives and throw away the key because we are just too “insane” to be let out. And because they label it as a mental “hospital” instead of what it really is (a prison) it doesnt count as a human rights violation or break the cruel or unusual punishment laws, which is such a gross loophole.

Not to mention, the ped med approach makes it harder for us to gain rights and fight back against bigotry, because we should anyone take an insane mentally ill crazy guy seriously? And if you think that pedos will EVER get treated the same as other mentally ill people because it would be “ablelist” not to, think again. Even the wokest most leftist “mental health” warrior makes a special excemption for pedos. They would rather support an innocent and opressed “mentally ill” person with “aspd”, who has higher rates of murder and rape then the gen pop, than a pedo, who is argubably far less dangerous then a person with aspd. Even if you think that all pedos are violent child rapists, a person with aspd is more than capable of violently raping children, adults, and the family dog, because causing pain and suffering to others is literally their entire goal in life. So even though a person with aspd is more dangerous than the average pedo, including to children, you will here all this yap about how people with aspd are unfairly demonized and are just mentally ill from mental health warriors, then they will turn around and yap about how pedos are evil monsters who need our skulls bashed in and our spines ripped out for simply existing and advocate for a hitler style holocaust against pedos.

Speaking of genocide, another reason why I dont trust healthcare proffsionals and would jump off the empire state building before I even think to come out to one. Antis are begining to argue for the mass genocide of pedos. “Why dont we just shoot all the pedos?” “We should round the pedos up and hang them in public” “we should gas pedos and expirement on them like lab rats”. The antis are planning to commit a mass genocide on us. If you dont believe me, you are naive, because they literally admit so themsleves. And they are pushing goverment officals to comply, which is why we are suddenly getting all this talk from politicians about including sex offenders, specifically child sex offenders, in the death penalty.

So if you had sex with your almost 17 year old girlfriend a month after turning 18? Death. You watched anime girl hentai of a 1000 year old loli dragons or watched ai generated “minors”? Death. You are 21 at a 21+ club and a 17 year old bought a fake id and lied to you about her age so that she could sleep with you? Death. A crazy obssessive teen wont leave you alone and decides to send you her nudes without your consent? Death. You accidentally clicked on a sus link someone sent you online thinking that it was free money from a nigerian prince and it sent you to a PIM site? Death. You pissed in public after a couple beers and a minor accidentally saw you while walking down the street? Death. You wrote spicy southpark fanfic or drew spicy jojos bizzare adventure fanart? Death. You have sonic foot fetish porn on your computer? Death. A minor falsely accused you of having sex with her because she wants revenge on you for giving her a bad grade? Death. Your ex wife falsely accuses you of having sex with the kids so that she can win the custody battle? Death. No more trials, no more innocent until proven guilty, just false accusations, slander, draconian and cruel punishments, and death death death. No logic or compassion or human decency, just death, as much of it as possible to anyone who even looks at a child for longer than 2 seconds.

So lets use a little common sense shall we. The geneal public wants a mass genocide, a pedocaust if you will, against all child sex offenders and self proclaimed(and non self proclaimed if youve been falsely accused for “acting sus”) pedos and are openly discussing the methods of genocide and trying to convince their peers and local goverments to make it legal. The goverment officials that run the country also want to commit a mass genocide on pedophiles and are trying make it legal. And ALL OF A SUDDEN, FOR NO REASON AT ALL BUT THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS AND THEIR PITY FOR POOR LITTLE PEDOPHILES, all these dogooder “therapists” and “researchers”, the very same ones who published the biased and cherry picked “research” about how pedophiles are satan incarnate and how getting your dick sucked even a day under the magical number of 18 by someone a day over the magical number of 18 means you are ruined indefinently and have basically been soul murdered, the very same people funded by the goverment who locks us up and wants us dead, the very same goverment elected by the people who wants us locked up and wants us dead, the very same people who admit in the comfort and privacy of other antis that they see us as subhuman and want the worst for us, all of a sudden, for no reason at all, care about pedos and pedo rights soooooooooo much that they want us all to flock to them in droves, give them our full names, street adressess, and places of work, come out to them as pedos so that they can document it and have it on file, and open up about all our weakness and soft spots, and im just supposed to trust that?

Oh yeah, sure. In a world where sucking a kids dick is seem as a fate worse than death, were pedophiles are seen as demons from hell, where parents would rather have their children kidnapped, tortured, and murdered than be involved romantically with a man even slightly older than them, im supposed to blindly trust the therapists and researchers, elected by the very same gen pop antis and goverment officals who are now OPENLY PLANNING OUR GENOCIDE, just because?? “We hate you and want you dead and we are actively working on a plan right now to get you and your kind gassed Anne Frank style, but we also want you to trust us and open up to us and tell us all your juicy private info and deepest darkest secrets.”

To all the therapists and researchers out there who are so invested in pedophillia for “the goodness of humanity”. Go fuck yourself. We know what you want and your not getting it.

Imagine if they gays fell for this shit back in the homophobic era. “I am a raging homophobe that hates gays just like every other member of society, but if you suffer from homosexuality disorder and sign up for my totally ethical and non abusive conversion camp and pinky promise you havent broken any sodomy laws I may or may not report you to the feds and have your entire social and legal life destroyed ”

[Officerkrupke]

So now we have this funny little game of cat and mouse where healthcare professionals will claim publicly that pedos need professional help and need to work with healthcare professionals, but behind closed doors admit that they purposefully sabotage and give substandard care to pedophiles or outright refuse to work with us. And here come the regular antis “if ur a p3d0 and not seeking help from therapists ur a bad and evil pos”. How about you go fuck yourself? How about you try coming out as the most hated and demonized minority in the modern day to someone you know hates you and doesnt see you as human and could easily report you to the feds and get your social and possibly legal life irreparably destroyed based on extremely purposefully vague mandatory reporting laws?

Maybe I’m the exception here, but I told my therapist a month ago that I’m a MAP and she’s been pretty good about it. I know that it’s a shitshow in general being a MAP, especially when being treated by medical professionals. B4U-ACT does great collaboration with non-MAP therapists.

[JGHeaven]

I would recommend being cautious with healthcare workers the same as you would with anyone.

There will be some genuine open and supportive therapists out there but there will be many with different agendas. Personally I wouldn't trust any but if you feel therapy would help, then I'd advise opening up very slowly, test the water, evaluate their response, have a critical mind and if you see any red flags then back away.

[Officerkrupke]

Doesnt any else find extremely suspicous, that seemingly out of nowhere….

You know, you could turn this into a Mu article.

[G@yWad69]

I would recommend being cautious with healthcare workers the same as you would with anyone.

There will be some genuine open and supportive therapists out there but there will be many with different agendas. Personally I wouldn't trust any but if you feel therapy would help, then I'd advise opening up very slowly, test the water, evaluate their response, have a critical mind and if you see any red flags then back away.

I disagree with the notion that maps even need therapy to begin with, that a moral panic, a social hysteria, means that we are the problem that needs to be fixed and not the sex facist, puritan, hysterical society. Imagine if black people in the 30s thought that the solution to the bigotry and abuse they faced as black people was therapy, not fighting against the bigotry and abuse causing them pain in the first place. Ridiculous right? So why would it be any different for Maps? It leads to a whole bunch of Maps demonizing their natural sexuality and trying to force themself into a box they know they wont fit instead instead of fighting the very same hysteria that causes their pain in the first place.

If you absolutely MUST see a therapist about your taboo sexuality for whatever reason, I think the safest thing to do would be to “come out” as a zoophile or a necrophile instead. Yes you are a pedophile, not a zoo or necro, and yes zoophillia and necrophillia are frowned on and discrimanated against in society. But it is WAAAAY safer to pretend that your “deviant paraphillia” is to animals or corpses instead of sexy six year olds. You can have the same conversations but about “dead bodies” instead of who your actual into, so it will be far safer.

[JGHeaven]

I would recommend being cautious with healthcare workers the same as you would with anyone.

There will be some genuine open and supportive therapists out there but there will be many with different agendas. Personally I wouldn't trust any but if you feel therapy would help, then I'd advise opening up very slowly, test the water, evaluate their response, have a critical mind and if you see any red flags then back away.

I disagree with the notion that maps even need therapy to begin with, that a moral panic, a social hysteria, means that we are the problem that needs to be fixed and not the sex facist, puritan, hysterical society. Imagine if black people in the 30s thought that the solution to the bigotry and abuse they faced as black people was therapy, not fighting against the bigotry and abuse causing them pain in the first place. Ridiculous right? So why would it be any different for Maps? It leads to a whole bunch of Maps demonizing their natural sexuality and trying to force themself into a box they know they wont fit instead instead of fighting the very same hysteria that causes their pain in the first place.

If you absolutely MUST see a therapist about your taboo sexuality for whatever reason, I think the safest thing to do would be to “come out” as a zoophile or a necrophile instead. Yes you are a pedophile, not a zoo or necro, and yes zoophillia and necrophillia are frowned on and discrimanated against in society. But it is WAAAAY safer to pretend that your “deviant paraphillia” is to animals or corpses instead of sexy six year olds. You can have the same conversations but about “dead bodies” instead of who your actual into, so it will be far safer.

You do make a very good point. I don't see a therapist because I don't feel I need to, any more than I need to see a therapist about my love for Chinese food. It's just how I'm made and it isn't a bad thing.

I do like your suggestion about if you really feel you need therapy then speak to one of those other groups because they will be different but still understand what you're feeling.

[Curson]

Doesnt any else find extremely suspicous, that seemingly out of nowhere, all these healthcare “professionals” want to work with us and “treat” us. That after decades upon decades of pushing information out to the general public based on cherry picked and biased research about how pedophiles are dangerous ravenous non human creatures lurking in the shadows waiting to soul murder your kid and that how a child having sex basically murders their soul, that they suddenly want to work with pedophiles and want the general public to see us differently.

Like yeah, sure, im gonna trust the very same people that are funded by the very same goverment that passess laws to throw us in prison, execute us, and spreads fearmongering “psa’s” to brainwash the general public into hating us. Not to mention, it makes no sense. These “professionals” act like their on our side “why are pedophiles seen so negatively? They are just innocent little bebehs with a mental illness “ and then a week later they will publish an article like “This is how those dangerous evil pedos rape and torture and murder your kids and ruin them forever”. Like my guys, YALL are a big part of the reason why the antis dont like us, and now yall suddenly want to switch up and act like the solution to the very problem you caused. And they will always be like “get therapy” and “seek mental health”. But therapists and nurses admit they hate pedos and want nothing to do with us. Which is honestly great because we want nothing to do with them either

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... edophiles/

Healthcare professional admits that she refuses to give treatment to pedophiles and sex offenders

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3414002506

https://www.reddit.com/r/TalkTherapy/co ... herapists/

Research showing that healthcare professionals either refuse to work with pedos or purposefully substandard care compared to other patients

MAP treated poorly or out right refused care by healthcare professionals after coming out

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... advice_on/

Nurse refuses to give same quality of care to pedo patient as she would other patients

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... _patients/

Healthcare professional feels disgusted after finding out she took care of a pedophile

So now we have this funny little game of cat and mouse where healthcare professionals will claim publicly that pedos need professional help and need to work with healthcare professionals, but behind closed doors admit that they purposefully sabotage and give substandard care to pedophiles or outright refuse to work with us. And here come the regular antis “if ur a p3d0 and not seeking help from therapists ur a bad and evil pos”. How about you go fuck yourself? How about you try coming out as the most hated and demonized minority in the modern day to someone you know hates you and doesnt see you as human and could easily report you to the feds and get your social and possibly legal life irreparably destroyed based on extremely purposefully vague mandatory reporting laws?

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1433852/

Not to mention Coalinga State prison, where pedophiles are locked up indefinently, for DEACDES after their sentence because they are seen as too “mentally ill” to be let out into the gen pop. The pedos talk about how they are mistreated and abused by staff while the biased interviewer harrass them non stop. So if you have sex with ten minors but you arent a pedophile ypu onky have to serve your sentence and then get released. But if you have sex with 2 little girls but your a pedo you are too “mentally ill” to ever be released and get impriosoned indefenintly? What evil fucking nonsense, they dont even do this with actual mental people, like schizos and shit.

This is the reason why I fight so hard against the ped med mentaillity (that pedophilia is a mental illness and needs “treatment”). Not only is it pathologizing normal human sexual deviances, but it also provides a convienent excuse for antis to avoid critiquing and examining the way their culture is set up and place all the blame on us for just having “bad brains”. It is also extrenely removed from other genuine mental illness, because unlike something like schizophrenia or bipolar, which causes problems no matter the culture and no matter the law, pedophillia is only a problem based on your culture and laws.

In cultures where pedophillia is accepted or legalized(Like America back when the age of consent was as low as 7), it would be ridiculous to claim that everyone was “mentally ill”. But now that its frowned upon and illegal it is magically a mental illness? So offending pedophiles are mentally ill because what they do is illegal(all it takes to be mentally ill is to commit a crime??What if you have sex with a minor in a country where it is legal, then do you magically stop being mentally ill??). And non offending pedos who feel distressed because of societal shame are mentally ill(because being a hated and demonized minority and taking on internalized shame from the constant societal abuse means your mentally ill apperantly??).

It creates an abritrary divide desgined to split pedophiles, and hebephiles/ephebphiles apart, and that is by design. Have you ever found it really strange and suspicous that pubescent and postpubsecent minors are called “children” by antis(including researchers), that antis will act like there is absoultely zero fuctional difference between a 17 year old and a 7 year old because they are both “innnocent little girls being groomed by evil pedos”. That a 20 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend is seen as just as evil as a 50 year old anally raping an infant because either way its “pedophillia” and “an innocent child getting raped” and should carry the exact same legal penalty. That being sexually attracted to a 17 year old who looks 18 with big boobs, an hourglass figure, pubic hair, who has fully finished puberty, is the exact same level of deviancy as being attracted to a flat chested 3 yesr old girl who wont even BEGIN to start puberty for the next almost decade because they are both “children”? Yet despite all that, researchers only want to classify being attracted to preoubscent minors as a “mental illness”?

So im supposed to belive that 17 year olds are children, and that being attracted to a 17 year old who looks indisguinshable from a 20 makes you an evil degenerate, that a 17 year old who can drive, work a job, fight in the military, live alone(if emancipated), drink in some countries, get married, go to college, who is fully finished with puberty, and smokes weed on the weekends and is facing prison time for sexually harrasing his classmates, is a not only a child, but on the exact same devlopmental level as a 3 year old?? And that being attracted to someone who looks 18, acts 18, and is functionally an adult in every way shape and form but some arbritray non biology based law, is just as deviant as being attracted to a 3 year old, but for some strange reason, only one is classified as a mental illness but the other isnt?

Nonono, you cant have your cake and eat it too, either you admit that there is a big ass difference between a postpubscent almost 18 year old “child” and an actual preubpescent child, or you classify all the chronophillias aimed at minors to be mental illness too. All these hypocritical antis will say that 13-17 year olds are “children” and “little kids” and that being attracted to them means there is something fundamentally wrong with you and should serve the exact same penalty as getting with a daycare aged toddler and has the exact same “trauma response”, but will get all pissy and defensive if you try to label hebephilia or ephebophillia as a mental disorder. Either they are ALL mental disorders, or none of them are. Either ALL minors are innocent little sexually naive children, or you admit that you are infantlzing older minors for your puritan agenda. Either stay strong on your stance that being attracted to a 17 year old a day under 18 is just as deviant and rare as being attracted to a baby, or admit that the legal line is arbitrary and that older minors are physically adults and that our culture/law infantilizes them. I wouldn't be surpirsed if researchers classified pedophillia like this on purpose to drive a bigger rift in our community, so that hebes and ephebes can live in the fabtasy lala land that they can be accepted by society and will have an excuse to avoid collberating with pedos. “Even though society hates us and wants us dead for finding jailbait hot, I could never work with pedos because unlike us, they are insane!” (Actual logic ive heard from a teen lover btw).

I actually hope that researchers end up classifying hebe and ephebophillia as mental disorders, because most people have an attraction to post pubescent teenage-I mean “children”.(because post pubscent “children” are identical to young legals and the only thing that makes them “children” is our infantlizing culture and laws, unlike actual elementary aged children). Because it will help people realize how common Mapness is and how normal it is and how stupid anti logic is

It also gives mental health “proffesionals” to throw us in a mental “hospital”(glorfied prison) for the rest of our natural lives and throw away the key because we are just too “insane” to be let out. And because they label it as a mental “hospital” instead of what it really is (a prison) it doesnt count as a human rights violation or break the cruel or unusual punishment laws, which is such a gross loophole.

Not to mention, the ped med approach makes it harder for us to gain rights and fight back against bigotry, because we should anyone take an insane mentally ill crazy guy seriously? And if you think that pedos will EVER get treated the same as other mentally ill people because it would be “ablelist” not to, think again. Even the wokest most leftist “mental health” warrior makes a special excemption for pedos. They would rather support an innocent and opressed “mentally ill” person with “aspd”, who has higher rates of murder and rape then the gen pop, than a pedo, who is argubably far less dangerous then a person with aspd. Even if you think that all pedos are violent child rapists, a person with aspd is more than capable of violently raping children, adults, and the family dog, because causing pain and suffering to others is literally their entire goal in life. So even though a person with aspd is more dangerous than the average pedo, including to children, you will here all this yap about how people with aspd are unfairly demonized and are just mentally ill from mental health warriors, then they will turn around and yap about how pedos are evil monsters who need our skulls bashed in and our spines ripped out for simply existing and advocate for a hitler style holocaust against pedos.

Speaking of genocide, another reason why I dont trust healthcare proffsionals and would jump off the empire state building before I even think to come out to one. Antis are begining to argue for the mass genocide of pedos. “Why dont we just shoot all the pedos?” “We should round the pedos up and hang them in public” “we should gas pedos and expirement on them like lab rats”. The antis are planning to commit a mass genocide on us. If you dont believe me, you are naive, because they literally admit so themsleves. And they are pushing goverment officals to comply, which is why we are suddenly getting all this talk from politicians about including sex offenders, specifically child sex offenders, in the death penalty.

So if you had sex with your almost 17 year old girlfriend a month after turning 18? Death. You watched anime girl hentai of a 1000 year old loli dragons or watched ai generated “minors”? Death. You are 21 at a 21+ club and a 17 year old bought a fake id and lied to you about her age so that she could sleep with you? Death. A crazy obssessive teen wont leave you alone and decides to send you her nudes without your consent? Death. You accidentally clicked on a sus link someone sent you online thinking that it was free money from a nigerian prince and it sent you to a PIM site? Death. You pissed in public after a couple beers and a minor accidentally saw you while walking down the street? Death. You wrote spicy southpark fanfic or drew spicy jojos bizzare adventure fanart? Death. You have sonic foot fetish porn on your computer? Death. A minor falsely accused you of having sex with her because she wants revenge on you for giving her a bad grade? Death. Your ex wife falsely accuses you of having sex with the kids so that she can win the custody battle? Death. No more trials, no more innocent until proven guilty, just false accusations, slander, draconian and cruel punishments, and death death death. No logic or compassion or human decency, just death, as much of it as possible to anyone who even looks at a child for longer than 2 seconds.

So lets use a little common sense shall we. The geneal public wants a mass genocide, a pedocaust if you will, against all child sex offenders and self proclaimed(and non self proclaimed if youve been falsely accused for “acting sus”) pedos and are openly discussing the methods of genocide and trying to convince their peers and local goverments to make it legal. The goverment officials that run the country also want to commit a mass genocide on pedophiles and are trying make it legal. And ALL OF A SUDDEN, FOR NO REASON AT ALL BUT THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS AND THEIR PITY FOR POOR LITTLE PEDOPHILES, all these dogooder “therapists” and “researchers”, the very same ones who published the biased and cherry picked “research” about how pedophiles are satan incarnate and how getting your dick sucked even a day under the magical number of 18 by someone a day over the magical number of 18 means you are ruined indefinently and have basically been soul murdered, the very same people funded by the goverment who locks us up and wants us dead, the very same goverment elected by the people who wants us locked up and wants us dead, the very same people who admit in the comfort and privacy of other antis that they see us as subhuman and want the worst for us, all of a sudden, for no reason at all, care about pedos and pedo rights soooooooooo much that they want us all to flock to them in droves, give them our full names, street adressess, and places of work, come out to them as pedos so that they can document it and have it on file, and open up about all our weakness and soft spots, and im just supposed to trust that?

Oh yeah, sure. In a world where sucking a kids dick is seem as a fate worse than death, were pedophiles are seen as demons from hell, where parents would rather have their children kidnapped, tortured, and murdered than be involved romantically with a man even slightly older than them, im supposed to blindly trust the therapists and researchers, elected by the very same gen pop antis and goverment officals who are now OPENLY PLANNING OUR GENOCIDE, just because?? “We hate you and want you dead and we are actively working on a plan right now to get you and your kind gassed Anne Frank style, but we also want you to trust us and open up to us and tell us all your juicy private info and deepest darkest secrets.”

To all the therapists and researchers out there who are so invested in pedophillia for “the goodness of humanity”. Go fuck yourself. We know what you want and your not getting it.

Imagine if they gays fell for this shit back in the homophobic era. “I am a raging homophobe that hates gays just like every other member of society, but if you suffer from homosexuality disorder and sign up for my totally ethical and non abusive conversion camp and pinky promise you havent broken any sodomy laws I may or may not report you to the feds and have your entire social and legal life destroyed ”

Yeah, I don't trust anyone nowadays. The thing is, if normal people don't accept it, then that's an indication that healthcare workers probably don't either since it hasn't been accepted as a whole. People have been so conditioned to accept that 18 is the age of consent everywhere since America is the world for some reason, I really think they're just pants on head retarded to not be able to accept any opposing views and threaten people through coersion and death threats.

EVEN if you are just attracted to teenagers and young women in their 20s, people will label you as a pedophile, without any due regard or actual usage of the word which means attraction to prepubescent children. This moral hysteria has only led to perpetual infantilization and the overuse of terms and definitions that don't mean anything anymore because they've been wrongly used for so long.

[G@yWad69]

Doesnt any else find extremely suspicous, that seemingly out of nowhere, all these healthcare “professionals” want to work with us and “treat” us. That after decades upon decades of pushing information out to the general public based on cherry picked and biased research about how pedophiles are dangerous ravenous non human creatures lurking in the shadows waiting to soul murder your kid and that how a child having sex basically murders their soul, that they suddenly want to work with pedophiles and want the general public to see us differently.

Like yeah, sure, im gonna trust the very same people that are funded by the very same goverment that passess laws to throw us in prison, execute us, and spreads fearmongering “psa’s” to brainwash the general public into hating us. Not to mention, it makes no sense. These “professionals” act like their on our side “why are pedophiles seen so negatively? They are just innocent little bebehs with a mental illness “ and then a week later they will publish an article like “This is how those dangerous evil pedos rape and torture and murder your kids and ruin them forever”. Like my guys, YALL are a big part of the reason why the antis dont like us, and now yall suddenly want to switch up and act like the solution to the very problem you caused. And they will always be like “get therapy” and “seek mental health”. But therapists and nurses admit they hate pedos and want nothing to do with us. Which is honestly great because we want nothing to do with them either

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... edophiles/

Healthcare professional admits that she refuses to give treatment to pedophiles and sex offenders

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3414002506

https://www.reddit.com/r/TalkTherapy/co ... herapists/

Research showing that healthcare professionals either refuse to work with pedos or purposefully substandard care compared to other patients

MAP treated poorly or out right refused care by healthcare professionals after coming out

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... advice_on/

Nurse refuses to give same quality of care to pedo patient as she would other patients

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... _patients/

Healthcare professional feels disgusted after finding out she took care of a pedophile

So now we have this funny little game of cat and mouse where healthcare professionals will claim publicly that pedos need professional help and need to work with healthcare professionals, but behind closed doors admit that they purposefully sabotage and give substandard care to pedophiles or outright refuse to work with us. And here come the regular antis “if ur a p3d0 and not seeking help from therapists ur a bad and evil pos”. How about you go fuck yourself? How about you try coming out as the most hated and demonized minority in the modern day to someone you know hates you and doesnt see you as human and could easily report you to the feds and get your social and possibly legal life irreparably destroyed based on extremely purposefully vague mandatory reporting laws?

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1433852/

Not to mention Coalinga State prison, where pedophiles are locked up indefinently, for DEACDES after their sentence because they are seen as too “mentally ill” to be let out into the gen pop. The pedos talk about how they are mistreated and abused by staff while the biased interviewer harrass them non stop. So if you have sex with ten minors but you arent a pedophile ypu onky have to serve your sentence and then get released. But if you have sex with 2 little girls but your a pedo you are too “mentally ill” to ever be released and get impriosoned indefenintly? What evil fucking nonsense, they dont even do this with actual mental people, like schizos and shit.

This is the reason why I fight so hard against the ped med mentaillity (that pedophilia is a mental illness and needs “treatment”). Not only is it pathologizing normal human sexual deviances, but it also provides a convienent excuse for antis to avoid critiquing and examining the way their culture is set up and place all the blame on us for just having “bad brains”. It is also extrenely removed from other genuine mental illness, because unlike something like schizophrenia or bipolar, which causes problems no matter the culture and no matter the law, pedophillia is only a problem based on your culture and laws.

In cultures where pedophillia is accepted or legalized(Like America back when the age of consent was as low as 7), it would be ridiculous to claim that everyone was “mentally ill”. But now that its frowned upon and illegal it is magically a mental illness? So offending pedophiles are mentally ill because what they do is illegal(all it takes to be mentally ill is to commit a crime??What if you have sex with a minor in a country where it is legal, then do you magically stop being mentally ill??). And non offending pedos who feel distressed because of societal shame are mentally ill(because being a hated and demonized minority and taking on internalized shame from the constant societal abuse means your mentally ill apperantly??).

It creates an abritrary divide desgined to split pedophiles, and hebephiles/ephebphiles apart, and that is by design. Have you ever found it really strange and suspicous that pubescent and postpubsecent minors are called “children” by antis(including researchers), that antis will act like there is absoultely zero fuctional difference between a 17 year old and a 7 year old because they are both “innnocent little girls being groomed by evil pedos”. That a 20 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend is seen as just as evil as a 50 year old anally raping an infant because either way its “pedophillia” and “an innocent child getting raped” and should carry the exact same legal penalty. That being sexually attracted to a 17 year old who looks 18 with big boobs, an hourglass figure, pubic hair, who has fully finished puberty, is the exact same level of deviancy as being attracted to a flat chested 3 yesr old girl who wont even BEGIN to start puberty for the next almost decade because they are both “children”? Yet despite all that, researchers only want to classify being attracted to preoubscent minors as a “mental illness”?

So im supposed to belive that 17 year olds are children, and that being attracted to a 17 year old who looks indisguinshable from a 20 makes you an evil degenerate, that a 17 year old who can drive, work a job, fight in the military, live alone(if emancipated), drink in some countries, get married, go to college, who is fully finished with puberty, and smokes weed on the weekends and is facing prison time for sexually harrasing his classmates, is a not only a child, but on the exact same devlopmental level as a 3 year old?? And that being attracted to someone who looks 18, acts 18, and is functionally an adult in every way shape and form but some arbritray non biology based law, is just as deviant as being attracted to a 3 year old, but for some strange reason, only one is classified as a mental illness but the other isnt?

Nonono, you cant have your cake and eat it too, either you admit that there is a big ass difference between a postpubscent almost 18 year old “child” and an actual preubpescent child, or you classify all the chronophillias aimed at minors to be mental illness too. All these hypocritical antis will say that 13-17 year olds are “children” and “little kids” and that being attracted to them means there is something fundamentally wrong with you and should serve the exact same penalty as getting with a daycare aged toddler and has the exact same “trauma response”, but will get all pissy and defensive if you try to label hebephilia or ephebophillia as a mental disorder. Either they are ALL mental disorders, or none of them are. Either ALL minors are innocent little sexually naive children, or you admit that you are infantlzing older minors for your puritan agenda. Either stay strong on your stance that being attracted to a 17 year old a day under 18 is just as deviant and rare as being attracted to a baby, or admit that the legal line is arbitrary and that older minors are physically adults and that our culture/law infantilizes them. I wouldn't be surpirsed if researchers classified pedophillia like this on purpose to drive a bigger rift in our community, so that hebes and ephebes can live in the fabtasy lala land that they can be accepted by society and will have an excuse to avoid collberating with pedos. “Even though society hates us and wants us dead for finding jailbait hot, I could never work with pedos because unlike us, they are insane!” (Actual logic ive heard from a teen lover btw).

I actually hope that researchers end up classifying hebe and ephebophillia as mental disorders, because most people have an attraction to post pubescent teenage-I mean “children”.(because post pubscent “children” are identical to young legals and the only thing that makes them “children” is our infantlizing culture and laws, unlike actual elementary aged children). Because it will help people realize how common Mapness is and how normal it is and how stupid anti logic is

It also gives mental health “proffesionals” to throw us in a mental “hospital”(glorfied prison) for the rest of our natural lives and throw away the key because we are just too “insane” to be let out. And because they label it as a mental “hospital” instead of what it really is (a prison) it doesnt count as a human rights violation or break the cruel or unusual punishment laws, which is such a gross loophole.

Not to mention, the ped med approach makes it harder for us to gain rights and fight back against bigotry, because we should anyone take an insane mentally ill crazy guy seriously? And if you think that pedos will EVER get treated the same as other mentally ill people because it would be “ablelist” not to, think again. Even the wokest most leftist “mental health” warrior makes a special excemption for pedos. They would rather support an innocent and opressed “mentally ill” person with “aspd”, who has higher rates of murder and rape then the gen pop, than a pedo, who is argubably far less dangerous then a person with aspd. Even if you think that all pedos are violent child rapists, a person with aspd is more than capable of violently raping children, adults, and the family dog, because causing pain and suffering to others is literally their entire goal in life. So even though a person with aspd is more dangerous than the average pedo, including to children, you will here all this yap about how people with aspd are unfairly demonized and are just mentally ill from mental health warriors, then they will turn around and yap about how pedos are evil monsters who need our skulls bashed in and our spines ripped out for simply existing and advocate for a hitler style holocaust against pedos.

Speaking of genocide, another reason why I dont trust healthcare proffsionals and would jump off the empire state building before I even think to come out to one. Antis are begining to argue for the mass genocide of pedos. “Why dont we just shoot all the pedos?” “We should round the pedos up and hang them in public” “we should gas pedos and expirement on them like lab rats”. The antis are planning to commit a mass genocide on us. If you dont believe me, you are naive, because they literally admit so themsleves. And they are pushing goverment officals to comply, which is why we are suddenly getting all this talk from politicians about including sex offenders, specifically child sex offenders, in the death penalty.

So if you had sex with your almost 17 year old girlfriend a month after turning 18? Death. You watched anime girl hentai of a 1000 year old loli dragons or watched ai generated “minors”? Death. You are 21 at a 21+ club and a 17 year old bought a fake id and lied to you about her age so that she could sleep with you? Death. A crazy obssessive teen wont leave you alone and decides to send you her nudes without your consent? Death. You accidentally clicked on a sus link someone sent you online thinking that it was free money from a nigerian prince and it sent you to a PIM site? Death. You pissed in public after a couple beers and a minor accidentally saw you while walking down the street? Death. You wrote spicy southpark fanfic or drew spicy jojos bizzare adventure fanart? Death. You have sonic foot fetish porn on your computer? Death. A minor falsely accused you of having sex with her because she wants revenge on you for giving her a bad grade? Death. Your ex wife falsely accuses you of having sex with the kids so that she can win the custody battle? Death. No more trials, no more innocent until proven guilty, just false accusations, slander, draconian and cruel punishments, and death death death. No logic or compassion or human decency, just death, as much of it as possible to anyone who even looks at a child for longer than 2 seconds.

So lets use a little common sense shall we. The geneal public wants a mass genocide, a pedocaust if you will, against all child sex offenders and self proclaimed(and non self proclaimed if youve been falsely accused for “acting sus”) pedos and are openly discussing the methods of genocide and trying to convince their peers and local goverments to make it legal. The goverment officials that run the country also want to commit a mass genocide on pedophiles and are trying make it legal. And ALL OF A SUDDEN, FOR NO REASON AT ALL BUT THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS AND THEIR PITY FOR POOR LITTLE PEDOPHILES, all these dogooder “therapists” and “researchers”, the very same ones who published the biased and cherry picked “research” about how pedophiles are satan incarnate and how getting your dick sucked even a day under the magical number of 18 by someone a day over the magical number of 18 means you are ruined indefinently and have basically been soul murdered, the very same people funded by the goverment who locks us up and wants us dead, the very same goverment elected by the people who wants us locked up and wants us dead, the very same people who admit in the comfort and privacy of other antis that they see us as subhuman and want the worst for us, all of a sudden, for no reason at all, care about pedos and pedo rights soooooooooo much that they want us all to flock to them in droves, give them our full names, street adressess, and places of work, come out to them as pedos so that they can document it and have it on file, and open up about all our weakness and soft spots, and im just supposed to trust that?

Oh yeah, sure. In a world where sucking a kids dick is seem as a fate worse than death, were pedophiles are seen as demons from hell, where parents would rather have their children kidnapped, tortured, and murdered than be involved romantically with a man even slightly older than them, im supposed to blindly trust the therapists and researchers, elected by the very same gen pop antis and goverment officals who are now OPENLY PLANNING OUR GENOCIDE, just because?? “We hate you and want you dead and we are actively working on a plan right now to get you and your kind gassed Anne Frank style, but we also want you to trust us and open up to us and tell us all your juicy private info and deepest darkest secrets.”

To all the therapists and researchers out there who are so invested in pedophillia for “the goodness of humanity”. Go fuck yourself. We know what you want and your not getting it.

Imagine if they gays fell for this shit back in the homophobic era. “I am a raging homophobe that hates gays just like every other member of society, but if you suffer from homosexuality disorder and sign up for my totally ethical and non abusive conversion camp and pinky promise you havent broken any sodomy laws I may or may not report you to the feds and have your entire social and legal life destroyed ”

Yeah, I don't trust anyone nowadays. The thing is, if normal people don't accept it, then that's an indication that healthcare workers probably don't either since it hasn't been accepted as a whole. People have been so conditioned to accept that 18 is the age of consent everywhere since America is the world for some reason, I really think they're just pants on head retarded to not be able to accept any opposing views and threaten people through coersion and death threats.

EVEN if you are just attracted to teenagers and young women in their 20s, people will label you as a pedophile, without any due regard or actual usage of the word which means attraction to prepubescent children. This moral hysteria has only led to perpetual infantilization and the overuse of terms and definitions that don't mean anything anymore because they've been wrongly used for so long.

Yes, thats actually why I support the bastardization of the word pedophile. We are all in this together, not just those of us primarily attracted to prepubecents. So in my eyes, if you are attracted to 16 and 17 year olds, even if they look identical to an 18-20 year old, then yes! You are a pedo. If you are 30 and dating a 22 year old, then yes, you are a pedo. If you are 60 and dating a 26 year old, you are a pedo. If you are 18 and dating a 17 year old, pedo. If you are 16 and dating a 14 year old, pedo. Do you like ageplay or lolicon? Pedo. Are you a male teacher? Pedo. Proshipper? Pedo. Doll collector? Pedo. POCD? Pedo. Dating a short adult? Pedo. If everyone is a pedophile, then no one is. If everyone is a pedophile, pedophillia wont be seen as a dirty shameful word that only applies to a small percentage of the population. Words are constantly changing and mean whatever the people who use them mean. So if being a 35 year old who likes wearing school girl outfits makes you a pedo to the gen pop, as a person with a primary attraction to prepubscents, I am all for it. It changes the meaning from “gross little pervert who rapes babies” to “anyone who is open and honest with their sexuality and fights back against hysterical and puritan bullshit”.

The broader the definition of pedophillia, the more pedos there are. The more pedos there are, the more allies we can align eith and the more people to fight are cause. There are more pedos currently than there have ever been in human history simply because antis will call anyone and everyone who even disagrees with them a pedo. Hell, changing the definition of pedophillia from “someone who prefers prepubscent children” to “someone whos even slightly attracted to anyone under 18, even if its a 17 year old who looks and acts 18” more than quadrupled our numbers alone, since barely anyone is into elementary school aged kids but every other man would gladly fuck a teenager a day under 18 if they were honest with themself.
Some pedos will try to fight back and be like “eRm TecHinAcLLy Im A EpHeBoPhIlE” and I think thats stupid. You are a pedo, and theres nothing wrong with being called a pedo because there is nothing wrong with being a pedo. Let the antis win their little battle, it will only help them loose the war. They will call everyine a pedo then be shocked when there are no more non pedos to fight with. So yes, you are a pedo, because the definition of pedo has changed and means something far greater than the orginal definition. Even grown women in thier late twenties are seen as “children” being “groomed” if they date a man older than them. Once it gets to the point that 60 year olds are called children and grooming victims for dating 80 and 90 year old men, people will finally stop and take a look around at how ridiculous they are. So yes, teenagers and adult women in their 20s and 30s are children. Going on a date and getting flowers bought for you is grooming. Let them water down their own bullshit terminology and make themselves a laughing stock, we dont even have to do anything but sit back and relax .

[Liyowo]

Glad to see you back G@yWad, your posts inspired me to make my account.

Psychiatry is pretty much a reflection of the system's current biases rather than a real science. When homosexuality wasn't mainstream, it was considered a mental illness. As soon as it became more accepted in society, only then did it stop being considered a mental illness, what a coincidence. Same for trans people. Look up Drapetomania too, back when slavery was still more common, it was considered a mental illness for slaves to want to escape.

[galileo2333]

Doesnt any else find extremely suspicous, that seemingly out of nowhere, all these healthcare “professionals” want to work with us and “treat” us. That after decades upon decades of pushing information out to the general public based on cherry picked and biased research about how pedophiles are dangerous ravenous non human creatures lurking in the shadows waiting to soul murder your kid and that how a child having sex basically murders their soul, that they suddenly want to work with pedophiles and want the general public to see us differently.

Like yeah, sure, im gonna trust the very same people that are funded by the very same goverment that passess laws to throw us in prison, execute us, and spreads fearmongering “psa’s” to brainwash the general public into hating us. Not to mention, it makes no sense. These “professionals” act like their on our side “why are pedophiles seen so negatively? They are just innocent little bebehs with a mental illness “ and then a week later they will publish an article like “This is how those dangerous evil pedos rape and torture and murder your kids and ruin them forever”. Like my guys, YALL are a big part of the reason why the antis dont like us, and now yall suddenly want to switch up and act like the solution to the very problem you caused. And they will always be like “get therapy” and “seek mental health”. But therapists and nurses admit they hate pedos and want nothing to do with us. Which is honestly great because we want nothing to do with them either

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... edophiles/

Healthcare professional admits that she refuses to give treatment to pedophiles and sex offenders

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3414002506

https://www.reddit.com/r/TalkTherapy/co ... herapists/

Research showing that healthcare professionals either refuse to work with pedos or purposefully substandard care compared to other patients

MAP treated poorly or out right refused care by healthcare professionals after coming out

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... advice_on/

Nurse refuses to give same quality of care to pedo patient as she would other patients

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/commen ... _patients/

Healthcare professional feels disgusted after finding out she took care of a pedophile

So now we have this funny little game of cat and mouse where healthcare professionals will claim publicly that pedos need professional help and need to work with healthcare professionals, but behind closed doors admit that they purposefully sabotage and give substandard care to pedophiles or outright refuse to work with us. And here come the regular antis “if ur a p3d0 and not seeking help from therapists ur a bad and evil pos”. How about you go fuck yourself? How about you try coming out as the most hated and demonized minority in the modern day to someone you know hates you and doesnt see you as human and could easily report you to the feds and get your social and possibly legal life irreparably destroyed based on extremely purposefully vague mandatory reporting laws?

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1433852/

Not to mention Coalinga State prison, where pedophiles are locked up indefinently, for DEACDES after their sentence because they are seen as too “mentally ill” to be let out into the gen pop. The pedos talk about how they are mistreated and abused by staff while the biased interviewer harrass them non stop. So if you have sex with ten minors but you arent a pedophile ypu onky have to serve your sentence and then get released. But if you have sex with 2 little girls but your a pedo you are too “mentally ill” to ever be released and get impriosoned indefenintly? What evil fucking nonsense, they dont even do this with actual mental people, like schizos and shit.

This is the reason why I fight so hard against the ped med mentaillity (that pedophilia is a mental illness and needs “treatment”). Not only is it pathologizing normal human sexual deviances, but it also provides a convienent excuse for antis to avoid critiquing and examining the way their culture is set up and place all the blame on us for just having “bad brains”. It is also extrenely removed from other genuine mental illness, because unlike something like schizophrenia or bipolar, which causes problems no matter the culture and no matter the law, pedophillia is only a problem based on your culture and laws.

In cultures where pedophillia is accepted or legalized(Like America back when the age of consent was as low as 7), it would be ridiculous to claim that everyone was “mentally ill”. But now that its frowned upon and illegal it is magically a mental illness? So offending pedophiles are mentally ill because what they do is illegal(all it takes to be mentally ill is to commit a crime??What if you have sex with a minor in a country where it is legal, then do you magically stop being mentally ill??). And non offending pedos who feel distressed because of societal shame are mentally ill(because being a hated and demonized minority and taking on internalized shame from the constant societal abuse means your mentally ill apperantly??).

It creates an abritrary divide desgined to split pedophiles, and hebephiles/ephebphiles apart, and that is by design. Have you ever found it really strange and suspicous that pubescent and postpubsecent minors are called “children” by antis(including researchers), that antis will act like there is absoultely zero fuctional difference between a 17 year old and a 7 year old because they are both “innnocent little girls being groomed by evil pedos”. That a 20 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend is seen as just as evil as a 50 year old anally raping an infant because either way its “pedophillia” and “an innocent child getting raped” and should carry the exact same legal penalty. That being sexually attracted to a 17 year old who looks 18 with big boobs, an hourglass figure, pubic hair, who has fully finished puberty, is the exact same level of deviancy as being attracted to a flat chested 3 yesr old girl who wont even BEGIN to start puberty for the next almost decade because they are both “children”? Yet despite all that, researchers only want to classify being attracted to preoubscent minors as a “mental illness”?

So im supposed to belive that 17 year olds are children, and that being attracted to a 17 year old who looks indisguinshable from a 20 makes you an evil degenerate, that a 17 year old who can drive, work a job, fight in the military, live alone(if emancipated), drink in some countries, get married, go to college, who is fully finished with puberty, and smokes weed on the weekends and is facing prison time for sexually harrasing his classmates, is a not only a child, but on the exact same devlopmental level as a 3 year old?? And that being attracted to someone who looks 18, acts 18, and is functionally an adult in every way shape and form but some arbritray non biology based law, is just as deviant as being attracted to a 3 year old, but for some strange reason, only one is classified as a mental illness but the other isnt?

Nonono, you cant have your cake and eat it too, either you admit that there is a big ass difference between a postpubscent almost 18 year old “child” and an actual preubpescent child, or you classify all the chronophillias aimed at minors to be mental illness too. All these hypocritical antis will say that 13-17 year olds are “children” and “little kids” and that being attracted to them means there is something fundamentally wrong with you and should serve the exact same penalty as getting with a daycare aged toddler and has the exact same “trauma response”, but will get all pissy and defensive if you try to label hebephilia or ephebophillia as a mental disorder. Either they are ALL mental disorders, or none of them are. Either ALL minors are innocent little sexually naive children, or you admit that you are infantlzing older minors for your puritan agenda. Either stay strong on your stance that being attracted to a 17 year old a day under 18 is just as deviant and rare as being attracted to a baby, or admit that the legal line is arbitrary and that older minors are physically adults and that our culture/law infantilizes them. I wouldn't be surpirsed if researchers classified pedophillia like this on purpose to drive a bigger rift in our community, so that hebes and ephebes can live in the fabtasy lala land that they can be accepted by society and will have an excuse to avoid collberating with pedos. “Even though society hates us and wants us dead for finding jailbait hot, I could never work with pedos because unlike us, they are insane!” (Actual logic ive heard from a teen lover btw).

I actually hope that researchers end up classifying hebe and ephebophillia as mental disorders, because most people have an attraction to post pubescent teenage-I mean “children”.(because post pubscent “children” are identical to young legals and the only thing that makes them “children” is our infantlizing culture and laws, unlike actual elementary aged children). Because it will help people realize how common Mapness is and how normal it is and how stupid anti logic is

It also gives mental health “proffesionals” to throw us in a mental “hospital”(glorfied prison) for the rest of our natural lives and throw away the key because we are just too “insane” to be let out. And because they label it as a mental “hospital” instead of what it really is (a prison) it doesnt count as a human rights violation or break the cruel or unusual punishment laws, which is such a gross loophole.

Not to mention, the ped med approach makes it harder for us to gain rights and fight back against bigotry, because we should anyone take an insane mentally ill crazy guy seriously? And if you think that pedos will EVER get treated the same as other mentally ill people because it would be “ablelist” not to, think again. Even the wokest most leftist “mental health” warrior makes a special excemption for pedos. They would rather support an innocent and opressed “mentally ill” person with “aspd”, who has higher rates of murder and rape then the gen pop, than a pedo, who is argubably far less dangerous then a person with aspd. Even if you think that all pedos are violent child rapists, a person with aspd is more than capable of violently raping children, adults, and the family dog, because causing pain and suffering to others is literally their entire goal in life. So even though a person with aspd is more dangerous than the average pedo, including to children, you will here all this yap about how people with aspd are unfairly demonized and are just mentally ill from mental health warriors, then they will turn around and yap about how pedos are evil monsters who need our skulls bashed in and our spines ripped out for simply existing and advocate for a hitler style holocaust against pedos.

Speaking of genocide, another reason why I dont trust healthcare proffsionals and would jump off the empire state building before I even think to come out to one. Antis are begining to argue for the mass genocide of pedos. “Why dont we just shoot all the pedos?” “We should round the pedos up and hang them in public” “we should gas pedos and expirement on them like lab rats”. The antis are planning to commit a mass genocide on us. If you dont believe me, you are naive, because they literally admit so themsleves. And they are pushing goverment officals to comply, which is why we are suddenly getting all this talk from politicians about including sex offenders, specifically child sex offenders, in the death penalty.

So if you had sex with your almost 17 year old girlfriend a month after turning 18? Death. You watched anime girl hentai of a 1000 year old loli dragons or watched ai generated “minors”? Death. You are 21 at a 21+ club and a 17 year old bought a fake id and lied to you about her age so that she could sleep with you? Death. A crazy obssessive teen wont leave you alone and decides to send you her nudes without your consent? Death. You accidentally clicked on a sus link someone sent you online thinking that it was free money from a nigerian prince and it sent you to a PIM site? Death. You pissed in public after a couple beers and a minor accidentally saw you while walking down the street? Death. You wrote spicy southpark fanfic or drew spicy jojos bizzare adventure fanart? Death. You have sonic foot fetish porn on your computer? Death. A minor falsely accused you of having sex with her because she wants revenge on you for giving her a bad grade? Death. Your ex wife falsely accuses you of having sex with the kids so that she can win the custody battle? Death. No more trials, no more innocent until proven guilty, just false accusations, slander, draconian and cruel punishments, and death death death. No logic or compassion or human decency, just death, as much of it as possible to anyone who even looks at a child for longer than 2 seconds.

So lets use a little common sense shall we. The geneal public wants a mass genocide, a pedocaust if you will, against all child sex offenders and self proclaimed(and non self proclaimed if youve been falsely accused for “acting sus”) pedos and are openly discussing the methods of genocide and trying to convince their peers and local goverments to make it legal. The goverment officials that run the country also want to commit a mass genocide on pedophiles and are trying make it legal. And ALL OF A SUDDEN, FOR NO REASON AT ALL BUT THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS AND THEIR PITY FOR POOR LITTLE PEDOPHILES, all these dogooder “therapists” and “researchers”, the very same ones who published the biased and cherry picked “research” about how pedophiles are satan incarnate and how getting your dick sucked even a day under the magical number of 18 by someone a day over the magical number of 18 means you are ruined indefinently and have basically been soul murdered, the very same people funded by the goverment who locks us up and wants us dead, the very same goverment elected by the people who wants us locked up and wants us dead, the very same people who admit in the comfort and privacy of other antis that they see us as subhuman and want the worst for us, all of a sudden, for no reason at all, care about pedos and pedo rights soooooooooo much that they want us all to flock to them in droves, give them our full names, street adressess, and places of work, come out to them as pedos so that they can document it and have it on file, and open up about all our weakness and soft spots, and im just supposed to trust that?

Oh yeah, sure. In a world where sucking a kids dick is seem as a fate worse than death, were pedophiles are seen as demons from hell, where parents would rather have their children kidnapped, tortured, and murdered than be involved romantically with a man even slightly older than them, im supposed to blindly trust the therapists and researchers, elected by the very same gen pop antis and goverment officals who are now OPENLY PLANNING OUR GENOCIDE, just because?? “We hate you and want you dead and we are actively working on a plan right now to get you and your kind gassed Anne Frank style, but we also want you to trust us and open up to us and tell us all your juicy private info and deepest darkest secrets.”

To all the therapists and researchers out there who are so invested in pedophillia for “the goodness of humanity”. Go fuck yourself. We know what you want and your not getting it.

Imagine if they gays fell for this shit back in the homophobic era. “I am a raging homophobe that hates gays just like every other member of society, but if you suffer from homosexuality disorder and sign up for my totally ethical and non abusive conversion camp and pinky promise you havent broken any sodomy laws I may or may not report you to the feds and have your entire social and legal life destroyed ”

They tell us to get therapy because they want to lure us into their system where they can grab us and imprison us.