Finance and Jobs thread

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Artaxerxes II
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Finance and Jobs thread

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Did you get a degree but still can't find a job in the field that you've studied for a year?

Do you need any help on how to get your finances in check?

Do you want to learn tips on how to manage work-related mental malaises?

Do you want to know the latest news in the world of the current year labour market?

Do you want to know which jobs are the most secure for MAPs?

Then this thread is perfect for you. Here topics related to jobs, finance, the labour market, etc... can be discussed freely.
To note that this thread isn't for discussing which economic system is the best (although it can be debated which country is the best to move in or which has the best safety net).
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I am not so sure that I can answer the questions that you ask or if if they al even apply to me. But I have currently decided to find a different line of work for myself. I am getting burned out and my hours have just been cut. My hours for next week are beyond ridiculous and me and my new boss are going to have to talk ( again ). What makes it tough for me is the fact that I am the registry and live in a town with a very pathetic bus system. So I am not looking forward to this at all. So perhaps this is the right thread for some advice on this matter.
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Lennon72 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:19 am I am not so sure that I can answer the questions that you ask or if if they al even apply to me. But I have currently decided to find a different line of work for myself. I am getting burned out and my hours have just been cut. My hours for next week are beyond ridiculous and me and my new boss are going to have to talk ( again ). What makes it tough for me is the fact that I am the registry and live in a town with a very pathetic bus system. So I am not looking forward to this at all. So perhaps this is the right thread for some advice on this matter.
The questions in the OP were general ones, not meant to any particular user here. They're meant to illustrate what this thread will be about.

As for your current situation, it seems dire from an outsider's POV. So far, have you tried to apply for various jobs that might be available for someone in the registry?

I would recommend the kind of jobs that can be done remotely, although such jobs typically fall under the IT sector. Alternatively, you could engage in day-trading or online poker gambling as you can earn money with only your wits and it doesn't have any entry barrier, although the risks are high.

As for burnouts, I suggest you keep tabs on when you have to work, and what stresses you out. It can be on a piece of paper, or an online document, it's up to you. The whole point of the exercise is to estimate how much free time you can put aside to deal with your triggers, and then remedy them.
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Artaxerxes II wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:44 amI would recommend the kind of jobs that can be done remotely, although such jobs typically fall under the IT sector.
For someone willing to learn and develop expertise in the field of IT, this can be a very good idea. Everyone needs IT in its different aspects, from the big companies down to the small firm next door. There is always demand for professionals in that field.
Artaxerxes II wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:44 am Alternatively, you could engage in day-trading or online poker gambling as you can earn money with only your wits and it doesn't have any entry barrier, although the risks are high.
It's what you said: gambling. Both. By even mentioning it you kinda disqualify despite your disclaimer. I once got the advice to only invest money I don't need. But your target group are people who don't have that money but who might need to think where to get the cheapest food the next day. Encouraging them to invest their few bucks into gambling is a stairway to frustration and depression. It needs skills and a lot of experience to correctly read markets and make good decisions. And then, to be able to live from the surplus, you'd need to either invest big amounts, or take very high risks.
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It's what you said: gambling. Both. By even mentioning it you kinda disqualify despite your disclaimer. I once got the advice to only invest money I don't need. But your target group are people who don't have that money but who might need to think where to get the cheapest food the next day. Encouraging them to invest their few bucks into gambling is a stairway to frustration and depression. It needs skills and a lot of experience to correctly read markets and make good decisions. And then, to be able to live from the surplus, you'd need to either invest big amounts, or take very high risks.
I was trying to think of a way for MAPs (especially the activist types among us) to earn money in a way where they can't be kicked out of just for being a MAP. Ideally, it would also have to be the kind of job where any entry barrier is kept to a minimum, hence why I suggest day-trading. Admittedly, it does take a lot of luck and wits coupled with experience to succeed there.

Given the nature of this thread, I would like to know if you've got better alternatives to propose, which I would be open to. But it has to be the kind of job where people here can keep on working and earning even after their identity is found out. Apart from starting a home-based business, or getting into trade jobs or even agriculture, I can't think of much else in terms of jobs that might be possible for those in the sex offender registry, let alone MAPs.
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IT sounds like something that I can bring up with my employment specialist. It does have a promising future I do believe. And I can definitely tell you what is burning me out. I currently work in retail and what is getting to me right now is how I have to repeat myself a lot and how we sometimes have issues with employees who don't show up. This is very unfair to other employees and myself when we are just tired and ready to return home. Those two things are what burn me out about it. Plus I do a lot of standing.
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Lennon72 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:20 pm IT sounds like something that I can bring up with my employment specialist. It does have a promising future I do believe. And I can definitely tell you what is burning me out. I currently work in retail and what is getting to me right now is how I have to repeat myself a lot and how we sometimes have issues with employees who don't show up. This is very unfair to other employees and myself when we are just tired and ready to return home. Those two things are what burn me out about it. Plus I do a lot of standing.
There are plenty of free online courses related to IT, such as web design, programming, data analysis, etc... I would recommend Udemy or Udacity, where even Protonmail email addresses are accepted for registration, but there is plenty of free and up-to-date learning material in YouTube. The upside is that you won't really need a degree for an IT-related job in most cases: Just showing your portfolio (e.g., a website you designed, a Python-based project, etc...) or completing an employer's assignment alongside a job interview will suffice.

As for retail job, one advice that I got from someone who previously worked in retail is to "break the mould": essentially, instead of performing the standard routine, try to break away with it, by trying to tell jokes, either to the customers or your fellow co-workers for example. But if you still want to change your job, my main advice would be to develop a new skill and trying to get another job before quitting your current occupation. That way the job change won't be much of a hassle.
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Hi,
there's remote work for customer service, data entry, most forms of arts, etc. IT remote work tends to require certifications and experience that doesn't come cheap or easy.
Odd jobs and backyard farming are also a solid ways to boost ones income.
But i think the best and easiest thing anyone can do is to save money and prevent it from depreciating. we often spend on stuff that's not strictly necessary or don't look for alternatives for the things that are necessary. For example, I know people who have a car when a bike or an electric bike would suffice. Or people who eat out at work instead of preparing their food home and bringing to work. Most can save some to a lot of money with minor to no inconvenience.

I'd say stock trading is barely a step removed from gambling, and that's if you go about it the right way. Even large companies, with dedicated teams to inform their decisions, lose serious money on occasion. More often than not, the average joe just loses money by believing they know what they are doing.
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It really depends on your skillset and interests.

IT is a broad field that is ever growing and there's always remote jobs you can take, but only if you have an interest in learning IT or already have the skills.

Related to that, blockchain and cryptocurrency is a constantly growing field. There are so many well paid roles with minimum entry requirements, you can even be 100% anonymous for many projects.

- Community management (being available in their Discord and Telegram channels to support the community)
- Marketing
- Partnership building
- Writing documentation and guides
- Making web and video content
- Writing software including smart contracts
- Write and run trading bots or nodes
- Day trade

I know people in the cryptospace who make a lot of money with no technical skills, they've just learned the industry, some projects and get paid to help manage and build communities.

Or there's stock trading and forex if you're interested in finance.

But there's truth to the idea that you can make a lot of money doing anything, if you're persistant and enjoy it. I was reading recently about a guy in his 50s who one day decided to collect and buy scrap from people and sell it on. He's now worth in the hundreds of millions.

If I can help with any of this stuff then let me know since I always enjoy seeing fellow maps succeed and blockchain and trading are areas I have a lot of interest.
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