Sensitive People at Work

[Brain O'Conner]

So, about a couple of weeks ago, I was talking to a co-worker about something, and I decided to show him something on youtube on my phone. Now, we shared each other videos before and one of them was about 9/11, which was a topic that we both were interested in. Now, the video that I showed him a couple weeks back was a child modeling video. I explained to him the youtube channel and all and said how they did various of age groups and genders and said I watch this stuff because it's cool to see talent and cool outfits. He had some things to say about the girls in that they look too skinny and I explained to him that they don't look skinny and look quite tall and that they were nine years old, and later showed him the preteen section of the video and I guess in retrospect, he felt uncomfortable of what I was showing him, but he never said a thing about it. I didn't make any weird comments and all, but in retrospect, he told another person at work without me knowing but did it in good faith because he felt a bit concerned. Now, this person that he told this to, told another person and I guess this other person went to the manager. Now, yesterday, I was told to go into the office about some scheduling with my work and stuff. So, I went to the office, and me and the manager discussed the schedule, as well as not having phones out while at work. Now this is where it gets juicy. He also explained to me how he had some concerns from other workers who told him about some videos. Now I asked what kind of videos that the concern was about (knowing in the back of my mind of what it actually was) and how I showed all kinds of videos to people, and then he responded with a "couple" of videos. Now I only mentioned to him how I showed the co-worker 9/11 videos and then we explained how even though people would agree to watching something you want to show them, they may still feel uncomfortable and that was pretty much it. I wasn't in trouble or anything. Now as for today, I asked that same co-worker if I did anything that made him feel uncomfortable. He responded to me with a no, and I pressed further and asked about certain videos that may have made him feel that way. He eventually responded yes and saying it was that child modeling video and how he only told one person. Now he told me that he didn't know it was going to escalate the way it did and felt mad at himself. I said it was okay and that there was no need to get mad and that I was just curious, but he still feels mad at himself for that. But anyways, that is what I wanted to share. People can become so sensitive to things that are not even sexual at all. Here's the actual video I showed him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwhlFFg_b7o&t=213s. There's nothing bad about it at all. It's quite stylish I would say. One of them is wearing a sailor outfit which I find cute.

[golderrr]

that video is so cute!! i wish my coworkers showed me stuff like that

[G@yWad69]

The children are showing skin, and according to anti rules, children revealing anything more than the occasional ankle and MAAAYYYBBEEE some shoulders is “literal grooming rape pedophillia abuse”. They arent wearing full length burkas, which means that this video is basically rape /j. The victorian sex hysterical puritanism never went away, they just started applying it to children instead of women. Seriously tho, be careful showing anyone videos of children that arent your direct kin, ESPCIALLY if you are male. It doesnt matter how fully legal and nonsexual it is, showing ANY type of intrest in any one under 18, even in a completely non sexual and legal way, is “problamatic” in the context of pedohysteria. The entire purpose of child modeling is to show off the beauty and appeal of kids, which would understanbly, make antis think that you are someone who appreciates the beauty and appeal of kids(pedo), which is VERY VERY BAD thing in the anti world. You are only supposed to find kids disgusting and ugly and annoying, if you show the antis that you find kids anything other than disgusting, annoying, and ugly, you are putting a target on your back. Dont try to double down, it will make things worse, just stop talking to those coworkers or just never bring up children again if you are around them

[aeterna91]

I don't think it's necessary for children to show their skin at all for many people.

I've read people commenting in all seriousness that no one under the age of 18 should appear in any form in photos or videos on the internet. They had hundreds of likes. They argued things like that “pedophiles” can get aroused and masturbate even to "normal" photos or that, in the worst case, they can use AI to make deepfakes and turn them into porn videos. What strikes me most is that I guess these people must believe in telepathy because, otherwise, I don't understand how someone could be affected in any way by another person masturbating to a photo of them without their knowledge... but yeah, we're reaching that point.

[Brain O'Conner]

I don't think it's necessary for children to show their skin at all for many people.

I've read people commenting in all seriousness that no one under the age of 18 should appear in any form in photos or videos on the internet. They had hundreds of likes. They argued things like that “pedophiles” can get aroused and masturbate even to "normal" photos or that, in the worst case, they can use AI to make deepfakes and turn them into porn videos. What strikes me most is that I guess these people must believe in telepathy because, otherwise, I don't understand how someone could be affected in any way by another person masturbating to a photo of them without their knowledge... but yeah, we're reaching that point.

Well, I disagree. I think kids should have the right to show their skin like that. They're models for crying out loud and they're hot. Who the fuck cares about people making comments about them? Would you rather them say that they're ugly and shouldn't be on stage? I don't understand sensitive people like you. You the kind of people that if a man says to a woman or girl that they're hot and sexy, apparently that man is reducing them into a sexual object which doesn't make any sense. Now if the roles were reversed, not only the man would be fine with it, but no one will bat an eye and say something. A double fucking standard. And you want to what else is a double fucking standard? You as a MAP complaining about girls showing their skin. And don't get me with the "oh maybe the girls or parents may feel uncomfortable about men making comments about them", but at the same time, that is more of a social issue, and they need to learn how to accept a fucking compliment and ignore the weird ones about getting the girl pregnant or what not. On top of that, who the fuck cares about men making comments on how they want to have sex with them? How the fuck does that automatically mean they are reducing those girls/women to sex objects? How the fuck does it inherently mean that? It makes no fucking sense.

[G@yWad69]

I don't think it's necessary for children to show their skin at all for many people.

I've read people commenting in all seriousness that no one under the age of 18 should appear in any form in photos or videos on the internet. They had hundreds of likes. They argued things like that “pedophiles” can get aroused and masturbate even to "normal" photos or that, in the worst case, they can use AI to make deepfakes and turn them into porn videos. What strikes me most is that I guess these people must believe in telepathy because, otherwise, I don't understand how someone could be affected in any way by another person masturbating to a photo of them without their knowledge... but yeah, we're reaching that point.

Well, I disagree. I think kids should have the right to show their skin like that. They're models for crying out loud and they're hot. Who the fuck cares about people making comments about them? Would you rather them say that they're ugly and shouldn't be on stage? I don't understand sensitive people like you. You the kind of people that if a man says to a woman or girl that they're hot and sexy, apparently that man is reducing them into a sexual object which doesn't make any sense. Now if the roles were reversed, not only the man would be fine with it, but no one will bat an eye and say something. A double fucking standard. And you want to what else is a double fucking standard? You as a MAP complaining about girls showing their skin. And don't get me with the "oh maybe the girls or parents may feel uncomfortable about men making comments about them", but at the same time, that is more of a social issue, and they need to learn how to accept a fucking compliment and ignore the weird ones about getting the girl pregnant or what not. On top of that, who the fuck cares about men making comments on how they want to have sex with them? How the fuck does that automatically mean they are reducing those girls/women to sex objects? How the fuck does it inherently mean that? It makes no fucking sense.

I think your attacking the wrong person. The previous commenter never said he was against it, but the antis would be against it. He is stating why the antis are against it not sayting that he HIMSELF finds it wrong. I think he himself says that he has no problem with it. But yes I agree, I dont know why finding someone sexually appealing=you view them as an object. That makes zero sense. Humans are a sexually reproductive species, only 1% of us are asexual, which means 99% of us will find others attractive. How does finding a homo sapien attractive, as a homo sapien, aka, the group that humans are literally HARD WIRED to find attractive because they see them as another human to date or reproduce with, mean that you see them as an object. If anything, seeing them as asexual is dehumanizing and objectifying, because sex and sexuality is a part of being human, and such an important part of being human, that 8billion of us wouldnt even exist without this so called “sExUlIzAtIoN”. The only thing that should be “objectfying” is seeing someone as well, an object. Seeing someone as sexy doesnt mean you see them as an object??? It just means you see them as a sexy person. Femminazis are sex negative puritans who HATE sex and sexuality(and therefore hate a normal and natural and important part of human nature) and try to desexualize everyone else because we are too human for them. So if anything, they are objectfying people, espicially minors, by trying to strip them of an innate part of their humanity(sexuality) to force them into there ideal “asexual ignorant and obedient” child box. The antis dont see children as autonomous human beings with things like a sexuality or desire, but perfect innocent objects that need to be constantly gaurded like precious jewlery or furniture, so all this talk of “objectification” from them is nothing but projection

[aeterna91]

Yeah, probably my first sentence was not very well redacted lol

Maybe it's because English isn't my native language.

Anyways, what I meant to say: children don't need to show a lot of skin to infuriate antis and make them want to ban their videos. It was a complaint about how ridiculously far one can go in the desire to ban things.

I'm not against it. Although, since the subject has come up, in some cases I would recommend at least some caution regarding the mass exposure of children to too many people. Mainly because of the dangers of not knowing how to manage fame or perhaps, in some cases, because parents, who have a lot of power over them, may exploit them to make money. But no, I'm not shocked at all, nor do I believe it is inherently harmful for children to show their skin in public; and I think that in most cases it's fun and positive for them.

[John_Doe]

I don't think it's necessary for children to show their skin at all for many people.

I've read people commenting in all seriousness that no one under the age of 18 should appear in any form in photos or videos on the internet. They had hundreds of likes. They argued things like that “pedophiles” can get aroused and masturbate even to "normal" photos or that, in the worst case, they can use AI to make deepfakes and turn them into porn videos. What strikes me most is that I guess these people must believe in telepathy because, otherwise, I don't understand how someone could be affected in any way by another person masturbating to a photo of them without their knowledge... but yeah, we're reaching that point.

Well, I disagree. I think kids should have the right to show their skin like that. They're models for crying out loud and they're hot. Who the fuck cares about people making comments about them? Would you rather them say that they're ugly and shouldn't be on stage? I don't understand sensitive people like you. You the kind of people that if a man says to a woman or girl that they're hot and sexy, apparently that man is reducing them into a sexual object which doesn't make any sense. Now if the roles were reversed, not only the man would be fine with it, but no one will bat an eye and say something. A double fucking standard. And you want to what else is a double fucking standard? You as a MAP complaining about girls showing their skin. And don't get me with the "oh maybe the girls or parents may feel uncomfortable about men making comments about them", but at the same time, that is more of a social issue, and they need to learn how to accept a fucking compliment and ignore the weird ones about getting the girl pregnant or what not. On top of that, who the fuck cares about men making comments on how they want to have sex with them? How the fuck does that automatically mean they are reducing those girls/women to sex objects? How the fuck does it inherently mean that? It makes no fucking sense.

I think your attacking the wrong person. The previous commenter never said he was against it, but the antis would be against it. He is stating why the antis are against it not sayting that he HIMSELF finds it wrong. I think he himself says that he has no problem with it. But yes I agree, I dont know why finding someone sexually appealing=you view them as an object. That makes zero sense. Humans are a sexually reproductive species, only 1% of us are asexual, which means 99% of us will find others attractive. How does finding a homo sapien attractive, as a homo sapien, aka, the group that humans are literally HARD WIRED to find attractive because they see them as another human to date or reproduce with, mean that you see them as an object. If anything, seeing them as asexual is dehumanizing and objectifying, because sex and sexuality is a part of being human, and such an important part of being human, that 8billion of us wouldnt even exist without this so called “sExUlIzAtIoN”. The only thing that should be “objectfying” is seeing someone as well, an object. Seeing someone as sexy doesnt mean you see them as an object??? It just means you see them as a sexy person. Femminazis are sex negative puritans who HATE sex and sexuality(and therefore hate a normal and natural and important part of human nature) and try to desexualize everyone else because we are too human for them. So if anything, they are objectfying people, espicially minors, by trying to strip them of an innate part of their humanity(sexuality) to force them into there ideal “asexual ignorant and obedient” child box. The antis dont see children as autonomous human beings with things like a sexuality or desire, but perfect innocent objects that need to be constantly gaurded like precious jewlery or furniture, so all this talk of “objectification” from them is nothing but projection

That's a very interesting point.

[Brain O'Conner]

Yeah, probably my first sentence was not very well redacted lol

Maybe it's because English isn't my native language.

Anyways, what I meant to say: children don't need to show a lot of skin to infuriate antis and make them want to ban their videos. It was a complaint about how ridiculously far one can go in the desire to ban things.

I'm not against it. Although, since the subject has come up, in some cases I would recommend at least some caution regarding the mass exposure of children to too many people. Mainly because of the dangers of not knowing how to manage fame or perhaps, in some cases, because parents, who have a lot of power over them, may exploit them to make money. But no, I'm not shocked at all, nor do I believe it is inherently harmful for children to show their skin in public; and I think that in most cases it's fun and positive for them.

Yeah, sorry about that man. I just wasn't having a good day yesterday and should not have reacted the way I reacted to you. That was my bad.

[Not Forever]

Honestly, I don't really know what to think.
My point of view is that of someone who is not a MAP, and who might have a somewhat negative reaction to seeing a video like that (But even if the people involved had been adults, I think I have a personal aversion to that kind of clothing and way of presenting oneself). Still, I would never dream of “bringing up my concerns” to others—both because I know how word of mouth works (We’re social animals; if we’re the first to speak, we should assume others will too), and also because it’s obvious that if we ourselves have a concern, reporting it to others could cause problems—potentially very serious ones.

But at the same time, I then think about the person who made it into an actual problem—the one who went to the “authorities”, effectively turning it into an issue.

I'm really sorry that you have to constantly be on alert, that people aren't capable of just shrugging things off, of having a bit of healthy indifference and apathy. (Yeah, I know those are considered negative traits. But in my opinion, the world could use a bit of apathy. There are too many self-appointed do-gooders around.)