Stop blaming female Maps

[DANAT4T]

Female Maps do not have it easier. Women's prisons are equally as violent as men. Women prisoners are not 'vulnerable'. There is also a myth that women prisoners are disproportionately lesbian. Power dynamics happen in men's prisons too. Female sex offenders are hypocritically attacked like with men. Society cheers these crimes. We must not be hypocritical ourselves though, sex offenders attack other sex offenders in high amounts also.

[BLueRibbon]

Do you feel people here are blaming female MAPs?

[JGHeaven]

Very well said, thank you.

I don't see a lot of maps being against female maps but some are. I've had maps say I have it easier than them and even tell me that me and maps like me are responsible for all the problems they experience. I've experienced that many times from maps, it does happen.

But I don't get mad because I know they're saying these things from a place of frustration and anger and they're just lashing out. It might look like we have it easy but we don't. I'm no less frustrated for being a woman. I can't be open about my sexuality or have a relationship or show affection. Honestly, if I had a relationship with a young girl people would freak out just as much as if I was a man. I know some other females who refuse to go to male majority forums because of that kind of response. I don't think it's as bad as it has been in the past though, I feel welcome at places like this, it has been years since I've had a male map flat out offload onto me like that.

[Not Forever]

I agree regarding the issue of violence and prison, but I believe that female MAPs generally have a genuinely easier life. I mean: even a non-MAP male would be afraid of being considered a pedophile if he were caught interacting with female minors (first and foremost); there’s this kind of phobia. Whether it’s justified or not. So if this problem exists even for non-MAPs, I expect it to be even more pronounced for male MAPs. Between the fear and the fact that they constantly have to stay on alert, because every action they take is perceived as suspicious, due to the idea of the male predator.

This doesn’t mean that the lives of female MAPs are easy, but from this point of view, in my opinion, it’s less stressful. This is without ignoring the legal situation, which is terrible for both, prison being awful for both, and the stigma that… well, depends on which journalist publishes the case.

[John_Doe]

I don't care for 'oppression olympics' but I think I can make certain inconclusive assumptions about general trends, based on my own anecdotal observation, that don't contradict anyone's lived experience. It doesn't ultimately matter (not even tactically, assuming that helping male MAPs doesn't require a different set of resources than helping female MAPs, we could further group people in different ways. I don't even have an ultimate fixation with MAPs as MAPs to begin with) since I wouldn't think that male MAPs deserved more consideration or attention even if it is true that anti-MAP prejudice tends to hit male MAPs especially hard (I don't think I've thought a lot about this when it comes to MAPs specifically although I've been of the opinion that, as a general rule, the most brutal and frequent sexism, practiced by both men and women, tends to be directed toward boys and men but if I'm wrong, it doesn't affect my core principles-in this case that men and women should be given equal consideration because gender is irrelevant to the nature of happiness and suffering).

I do wonder, without downplaying how much individual MAP females have suffered because of their attraction (they are the authority on that; although there might be some ambiguity about what privately motivates seemingly prejudiced people in some scenarios, but not necessarily on wide-scale statistical trends), if the discrimination against female MAPs is ultimately the result of certain attitudes toward male sexuality. I always choose to respond to topics when I have no time left to properly collect my thoughts so I won't get into why but it does sometimes seem to me that the stigma against women with younger men and boys (or younger females) is kind of a rationalization that helps to justify the stigma against men with younger women (I want to say that, apparently, some of the first statutory rape laws only applied to men but I don't know where I'm getting this and I have no time to look into it. You could argue that some of this is because people tend to take 'sexual exploitation' of men less seriously or that women are normally seen as less threatening and predatory)- if you condemn female and male MAPs alike no one can accuse you of gendered inconsistencies. I could be wrong and, again, it doesn't ultimately matter. There are double standards that disproportionately harm women (or to x degree) or involve giving their welfare less consideration.

[PorcelainLark]

I think the issue is a bodily one. A male MAP always has the threat of castration hanging over them, which a female MAP lacks. So the stakes are higher for male MAPs. I think that's why more MAP activists tend to be male.

[DANAT4T]

Do you feel people here are blaming female MAPs?

I do not feel that it is specific to here. I don't agree that they have it easier than us. There is a high number of 'young' female teachers that boy students have had sex with. I concede that their criminal punishments might be lighter but their professional career will be over. Anti-MAP extremists advocate for removing their reproductive organs. I mean doing this is stupid to males but they hate us so much they want to do it to females also. There is also pro-contact extremists that don't support females because they are not pro-contact enough. I would say that it is natural for them not to be obsessed over contact as much as us because of their inverted reproductive organs.

[PorcelainLark]

Do you feel people here are blaming female MAPs?

I do not feel that it is specific to here. I don't agree that they have it easier than us. There is a high number of 'young' female teachers that boy students have had sex with. I concede that their criminal punishments might be lighter but their professional career will be over. Anti-MAP extremists advocate for removing their reproductive organs. I mean doing this is stupid to males but they hate us so much they want to do it to females also. There is also pro-contact extremists that don't support females because they are not pro-contact enough. I would say that it is natural for them not to be obsessed over contact as much as us because of their inverted reproductive organs.

But don't you agree castration is more straightforward for males than the equivalent for women? I agree we should try to be inclusive of women, but at the same time it seems clear why men would be more invested in this issue than women.

[eveeve]

I just wanna say I really do appreciate you saying that we do not have it easier, in many ways maybe, but in lots of ways we do have it easier. Just a way it’s easier is the generic men will compliment younger boys for sleeping with an older woman while if it were the other way around it would be a completely different story. A way i’ve personally felt it be harder is bearing the fact that as a women im supposed to love and protect children and keep them as innocent as possible and play a motherly role with children, which makes me feel like a horrible person sometimes for being sexual attracted to them. I hope some of what i said makes sense lol, had a few glasses of wine and it was a long day at work lol.

[Not Forever]

A way i’ve personally felt it be harder is bearing the fact that as a women im supposed to love and protect children and keep them as innocent as possible and play a motherly role with children, which makes me feel like a horrible person sometimes for being sexual attracted to them.

I hadn’t thought about this; indeed, it’s problematic and makes it much more likely to lead to possible feelings of guilt.