It's time for Minor-Attracted Persons to rally and revolt against the ground we're losing. The Epstein files have created a mass psychogenic effect, with politicians and people calling for execution or violent acts against those in our community.
I think we have several goals. One establish what I call "Minor-Attracted Persons’ Unified Canon Law." A set of laws we as MAPs will agree to live and die by.
1. Everyone has unalienable rights to liberty, free will, and choice regardless of age, gender, or status.
2. We don't cause harm through malicious, intentional injury.
Another goal would be to challenge age of consent laws, because they take away the liberties of child and it invalidate other laws.
I have been spending a ton of time with AI and talking about why society treats children like little slaves with regards to their right to choose. We found a common road. I have also been working with AI to completely chance society.
Unless we can change the world, the USA, or perhaps we can start a new country.
Not unlike Asgard (space society).
We run the risk of never being able to have a voice.
If I had enough money, land, supplies, and protections. I would come out and fight this publicly. Part of my plan if I could ever raise the money I need to start my business. Just need to find the right investors. Someday god willing. But until then....
The subject is When?
As in When are we going to be heard.
Unopened mouths do not get feed.
When?
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Jim Burton
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Re: When?
This sounds very much like ideas from the powerless.
Typically, groups that are powerless are likely to propose extreme and unrealistic solutions, or form cults, which leads to their further ghettoization.
This phase happens before alliance-building, which is the slow and painful reality of what must be done before any progress is made.
Unfortunately, this community now has many examples of individuals who attempted to follow these extreme paths, often on their own, and paid heavily.
I am also concerned about your interactions with AI.
Typically, groups that are powerless are likely to propose extreme and unrealistic solutions, or form cults, which leads to their further ghettoization.
This phase happens before alliance-building, which is the slow and painful reality of what must be done before any progress is made.
Unfortunately, this community now has many examples of individuals who attempted to follow these extreme paths, often on their own, and paid heavily.
I am also concerned about your interactions with AI.
The purpose of AI is to find a common road. They are basically designed by corporations to massage the customer's ego.Another goal would be to challenge age of consent laws, because they take away the liberties of child and it invalidate other laws.
I have been spending a ton of time with AI and talking about why society treats children like little slaves with regards to their right to choose. We found a common road. I have also been working with AI to completely chance society.
Committee Member: Mu. Editorial Lead: Yesmap
Adult-attracted gay man; writer. Attraction to minors is typical variation of human sexuality.
Adult-attracted gay man; writer. Attraction to minors is typical variation of human sexuality.
Re: When?
SO what do you propose to do, if anything?Jim Burton wrote: Tue Feb 10, 2026 9:40 am This sounds very much like ideas from the powerless.
Typically, groups that are powerless are likely to propose extreme and unrealistic solutions, or form cults, which leads to their further ghettoization.
This phase happens before alliance-building, which is the slow and painful reality of what must be done before any progress is made.
Unfortunately, this community now has many examples of individuals who attempted to follow these extreme paths, often on their own, and paid heavily.
I am also concerned about your interactions with AI.
The purpose of AI is to find a common road. They are basically designed by corporations to massage the customer's ego.Another goal would be to challenge age of consent laws, because they take away the liberties of child and it invalidate other laws.
I have been spending a ton of time with AI and talking about why society treats children like little slaves with regards to their right to choose. We found a common road. I have also been working with AI to completely chance society.
37, female. Writer, mediocre artist.
Pro-c, though has intrusive rape fantasies and nightmares involving minors.
AoA is usually 2 but can go younger, oldest AoA is around 12-14.
Can like adults if they appear young, but fades with time.
Into zoo too!
Pro-c, though has intrusive rape fantasies and nightmares involving minors.
AoA is usually 2 but can go younger, oldest AoA is around 12-14.
Can like adults if they appear young, but fades with time.
Into zoo too!
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Not Forever
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Re: When?
A small criticism: You can't make "laws" that people must adhere to just because of their shared characteristics. I don't know if I'm making myself clear, but creating a list of things that a category of people MUST agree with feels like religion to me, a religion with mandatory membership.
A MAP can be against freedom of choice on many issues, they can even be against the idea that a minor can have sex with an adult. The fact that they have an attraction doesn't necessarily mean they think relationships of that kind are positive for the minor.
A MAP shouldn't have to be told that just because they're a MAP they shouldn't harm others, just like a Black person shouldn't have to be told that as a Black person they shouldn't steal a car. These things are regulated by laws, which vary from state to state, that shouldn't make distinctions based on gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc...
You can work on many areas.
Minors' rights? That can be done.
Work on contextualizing the Epstein dossiers by separating them from the MAP issue to contain this widespread panic? That can be done.
Many things can be done, both individually and together, but I would advise against making it such a strictly identity-based issue, because there's a risk that people will simply see it in bad faith.
Do you necessarily want to do something, without money and without exposing yourself? Roll up your sleeves and start spamming on social media like is done nowadays in modern propaganda. Create account after account and start consuming your time producing comments that slightly alter the perception of the situation. On reddit, x, instagram, youtube, 4chan, facebook, tiktok, etc... Will the laws change immediately? No, but hey, at least it can be considered a timid beginning.
Perhaps avoiding taking unpopular positions. I mean... how many people can you actually attract by considering the current situation with minors comparable to slavery? If you need to send messages, you also shouldn't make people crash into a wall. But find a crack, stick the crowbar in it and widen it slowly. Insert yourself into already existing narratives and give them new interpretations, new arguments. The point is to find yourself in the situation where someone else wants to use certain arguments, to add that new tool to their lockpick, to slowly manage to produce an echo.
This obviously if you don't want to expose yourself, if you don't have money to spend, if you don't have businesses to open, if there's no way to put pressure on actual politics or within pre-existing movements. If you can't do this, there's always the internet and propaganda on the internet can be done. You just need to have free time to spend on it, even if the results will be less tangible.
A MAP can be against freedom of choice on many issues, they can even be against the idea that a minor can have sex with an adult. The fact that they have an attraction doesn't necessarily mean they think relationships of that kind are positive for the minor.
A MAP shouldn't have to be told that just because they're a MAP they shouldn't harm others, just like a Black person shouldn't have to be told that as a Black person they shouldn't steal a car. These things are regulated by laws, which vary from state to state, that shouldn't make distinctions based on gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc...
You can work on many areas.
Minors' rights? That can be done.
Work on contextualizing the Epstein dossiers by separating them from the MAP issue to contain this widespread panic? That can be done.
Many things can be done, both individually and together, but I would advise against making it such a strictly identity-based issue, because there's a risk that people will simply see it in bad faith.
Do you necessarily want to do something, without money and without exposing yourself? Roll up your sleeves and start spamming on social media like is done nowadays in modern propaganda. Create account after account and start consuming your time producing comments that slightly alter the perception of the situation. On reddit, x, instagram, youtube, 4chan, facebook, tiktok, etc... Will the laws change immediately? No, but hey, at least it can be considered a timid beginning.
Perhaps avoiding taking unpopular positions. I mean... how many people can you actually attract by considering the current situation with minors comparable to slavery? If you need to send messages, you also shouldn't make people crash into a wall. But find a crack, stick the crowbar in it and widen it slowly. Insert yourself into already existing narratives and give them new interpretations, new arguments. The point is to find yourself in the situation where someone else wants to use certain arguments, to add that new tool to their lockpick, to slowly manage to produce an echo.
This obviously if you don't want to expose yourself, if you don't have money to spend, if you don't have businesses to open, if there's no way to put pressure on actual politics or within pre-existing movements. If you can't do this, there's always the internet and propaganda on the internet can be done. You just need to have free time to spend on it, even if the results will be less tangible.
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HumanBeing
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Re: When?
"If I had enough money, land, supplies, and protections. I would come out and fight this publicly. Part of my plan if I could ever raise the money I need to start my business."
I like your determination to do real activism but at the moment we should focus our efforts on start an stable real life community rather than to openly try to abolish any laws, we should start local/national-level organizations focused on building a in-person MAP community, we can make MAP-themed conventions, celebrate together our MAP Pride days (like the IBLD) and similar initiatives.
as the Radqueer/MAP Activist Ally Kotetsu said:
I think the biggest harm activism does is distract people from the real battle. We think that a brave few activists are going to fight for the rights of our community, and that by arguing online and running social media websites we're making a difference. And we are making a difference, but that difference is never going to bring us to where we need to be. No amount of activism will ever take us from where we are now to the future we want to be in.
Stonewall didn't happen because of gay activist groups. In fact, gay activist groups like ILGA and NAMbLA formed after Stonewall. Stonewall wasn't an act of activism, and it surely wasn't started by a select few people. Stonewall was led by a community that was tired of hiding. People weren't trying to make a difference, they were trying to live authentic lives.
I've mentioned before something that I've noticed in this community, the way people rely on our leaders to do everything for them. We think that leaders are people who fight our battles, when they're really people who lead our battles. This line of thinking is a trap that tricks us into thinking it's okay to do nothing. We think that if some people are being brave and doing what needs to be done, then we don't.
Some hear this and think that what I mean is that we all need to do activism, but that's not what I'm talking about. The fact of the matter is that we're never going to get anywhere if we just wait for our leaders to fight our battles for us. If we trust them, we must follow in their example, because our community isn't going to gain acceptance if we don't. If our community leaders are out there, being brave and forming real, in-person connections, then we should be too. This isn't activism, it's just living an authentic life.
Another misconception people have is that we have to change the whole world. We set our goals really high, try as hard as we can to reach them, and then get burnt out when doing so proves impossible. Change doesn't happen at a global scale, just look at how many places it's still illegal to be gay in.
Full article on:
https://allykotetsu.com/blog/the-myths-of-activism
I like your determination to do real activism but at the moment we should focus our efforts on start an stable real life community rather than to openly try to abolish any laws, we should start local/national-level organizations focused on building a in-person MAP community, we can make MAP-themed conventions, celebrate together our MAP Pride days (like the IBLD) and similar initiatives.
as the Radqueer/MAP Activist Ally Kotetsu said:
I think the biggest harm activism does is distract people from the real battle. We think that a brave few activists are going to fight for the rights of our community, and that by arguing online and running social media websites we're making a difference. And we are making a difference, but that difference is never going to bring us to where we need to be. No amount of activism will ever take us from where we are now to the future we want to be in.
Stonewall didn't happen because of gay activist groups. In fact, gay activist groups like ILGA and NAMbLA formed after Stonewall. Stonewall wasn't an act of activism, and it surely wasn't started by a select few people. Stonewall was led by a community that was tired of hiding. People weren't trying to make a difference, they were trying to live authentic lives.
I've mentioned before something that I've noticed in this community, the way people rely on our leaders to do everything for them. We think that leaders are people who fight our battles, when they're really people who lead our battles. This line of thinking is a trap that tricks us into thinking it's okay to do nothing. We think that if some people are being brave and doing what needs to be done, then we don't.
Some hear this and think that what I mean is that we all need to do activism, but that's not what I'm talking about. The fact of the matter is that we're never going to get anywhere if we just wait for our leaders to fight our battles for us. If we trust them, we must follow in their example, because our community isn't going to gain acceptance if we don't. If our community leaders are out there, being brave and forming real, in-person connections, then we should be too. This isn't activism, it's just living an authentic life.
Another misconception people have is that we have to change the whole world. We set our goals really high, try as hard as we can to reach them, and then get burnt out when doing so proves impossible. Change doesn't happen at a global scale, just look at how many places it's still illegal to be gay in.
Full article on:
https://allykotetsu.com/blog/the-myths-of-activism
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Nobody in the world, nobody in history has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them.
Bisexual child-lover
Nobody in the world, nobody in history has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them.
Re: When?
This sounds good. There has always been people looking to put people down. The state needs control. Corporations work on license from the state. People look for false protections such as minimum wage, child labor laws, retirement age. There are also laws like hate speech and hate crime. Governments use eminent domain to abuse also. Age of consent needs to go. Firearm laws are a joke. Tax is slavery. Voting age means nothing. Abolish unemployment benefits. Abolish state pensions. Compulsory education is completely wrong. Private individuals should be allowed to discriminate. There are laws where sex offenders have to register. There are laws where people have to complete military service. The corporations and the state want to destroy me but I will destroy them.
I support AAMs and MAPs. Personally I am a romantic GL but I support loving relationships between people from infants all the way up to the elderly.
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Jim Burton
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Re: When?
Last word of every crazy who crashes out and makes the news. And isn't it obvious what I propose to do? I'm here every day, every year supporting multiple of these projects.
The point is, in your case, do less! When you are planning something (at best counterproductive...), take a step back and reassess - is this really going to help?
Committee Member: Mu. Editorial Lead: Yesmap
Adult-attracted gay man; writer. Attraction to minors is typical variation of human sexuality.
Adult-attracted gay man; writer. Attraction to minors is typical variation of human sexuality.