Why is child porn even illegal?

[OnionPetal]

In regards to MAPs who don't want to see child rape, that's great, so they should be against CP as children don't fully understand the consequences of sex. [...]

Widely reported data indicates that the majority of 'child pr0n' is self-produced, of their own will (e.g., teens messing around on webcam or with cell phones and uploading it themselves). So are they all 'r4ping' themselves? Come on, now. You could certainly argue that self-made pr0n is 'problematic' in different ways... but when people throw the R-word around so indiscriminately (e.g., when describing voluntary acts), I have a hard time taking their arguments seriously.

If you are against sex for whatever reason, rest assured that not all 'pr0n' involves sexual intercourse.

Sex disgusts me too and here I get a suspicion: aren't you unintentionally attributing your view of sex to others? Like a heterosexual who is disgusted by homosexual intercourse [...]

Ditto.

Besides, this isn't a topic that needs "understanding," but rather one explores it during sexual intercourse or through pornography, whether something is to one's taste or not.

Indeed, it's that very important journey of 'discovery' that so many of us find so exciting. Once someone becomes an 'expert,' there's not much guidance and mentoring needed anymore.

[DANAT4T]

Sex is gross, you are literally exchanging body fluids that have a chance of exchanging prolific STDs. Children shouldn't be exposed to that until they become adults.

Sex disgusts me too and here I get a suspicion: aren't you unintentionally attributing your view of sex to others? Like a heterosexual who is disgusted by homosexual intercourse and therefore wants to "protect" minors from something like that. Besides, this isn't a topic that needs "understanding," but rather one explores it during sexual intercourse or through pornography, whether something is to one's taste or not.

What do mean by heterosexuals being disgusted by homosexual activity? Some homosexual men are disgusted by anal intercourse. Do you mean that most heterosexual men are disgusted by anal intercourse? Most heterosexual women find anal intercourse sexy.

[Not Forever]

What do mean by heterosexuals being disgusted by homosexual activity? Some homosexual men are disgusted by anal intercourse. Do you mean that most heterosexual men are disgusted by anal intercourse? Most heterosexual women find anal intercourse sexy.

I gave an example; my claim is not that heterosexuals are disgusted by homosexuality. Rather, that this aversion to sex and this caution might stem more from a general disgust toward sex itself than from rational motivations.

A bit like those heterosexuals who are extremely cautious about young people declaring themselves homosexual, perhaps with the idea that after a couple of years they will end up having “normal” tastes, when this caution actually derives more from an aversion to homosexuality. (By aversion I simply mean the sense of disgust one might feel toward homosexuality—not necessarily toward anal intercourse, but even at the mere idea of being kissed by another man, etc.)

[Walton]

I think the explanation much more simple.

Childporn is illegal so the elite can threaten each other with it when they record each other on those parties.
For us it's illegal so they can arrest us and we can be slaves. Slavery never went away it was reinvented in the prison system

[oolhlh2]

MAP activist sites, though not CP sites, are absolutely not profit-making. Mu is funded by its owner. My personal site is funded by me.

The potential for CP websites to eventually turn into a business is valid enough for its criminalization.

Kids don't care about grossness. They do genuinely disgusting things all the time. And if STDs are really your main concern, well, that's what sex education and contraceptives are for (not suggesting you have sex with kids - pointing out where your argument is weak).

Kids don't care about gross things, therefore we should allow them to do it isn't a very convincing argument in my opinion.

For STD's and other issues like it, I'd rather that children not be allowed to engage in activites where that is possible. Child modelling I don't care for as those issues don't exist.

[Not Forever]

The potential for [...]

Potentially, the lack of this material leads to actual sexual assaults. So what do we do? Not to mention that if you want to make a commercial activity illegal, you can do that. But making something illegal simply because it might lead to something illegal is, in itself… so self-defeating. It creates a domino effect that should ultimately lead you to consider making everything illegal.

The criminalization—or lack thereof—of something should depend solely on the subject matter itself, not on what someone might potentially be encouraged to do.

[OnionPetal]

MAP activist sites, though not CP sites, are absolutely not profit-making. Mu is funded by its owner. My personal site is funded by me.

The potential for CP websites to eventually turn into a business is valid enough for its criminalization.

Then criminalise the sale of 'child pr0n.' Problem solved.

But I suspect you would still have a problem even if the 'prohibited content' were not sold. Is that right?