Ever get caught staring?

[Theendoftheline]

I was in line at a store and this anywhere from 12 to 14 yo girl was in line in front of me and MY GOD she had the smoothest lil tan legs i ever saw with lil short shorts that did not leave much to the imagination. I couldn't help but to keeo glancing down at her legs and she looked back at me suddenly like "uhhh, tf are you looking at" then turned back to her brother. GOD DAMN its too bad that society at large in first world countries says that's a huge prison sentence.......

[bnkywuv]

I do but I don't think much of it. Back when I was closeted I'd have LITERAL panic attacks over it because I was terrified the kids would know why I was staring and do something horrible to me.

But yeah. it is sad that in most areas this is a prison sentence. It shouldn't be. Children are beautiful beings who don't anywhere near the amount of attention and positive encouragement they need to grow!

We want kids to grow up but then again we don't. We want kids to grow up but not in ways that up them on par with adults. Which in my mind should be a crime.

[Theendoftheline]

I do but I don't think much of it. Back when I was closeted I'd have LITERAL panic attacks over it because I was terrified the kids would know why I was staring and do something horrible to me.

But yeah. it is sad that in most areas this is a prison sentence. It shouldn't be. Children are beautiful beings who don't anywhere near the amount of attention and positive encouragement they need to grow!

We want kids to grow up but then again we don't. We want kids to grow up but not in ways that up them on par with adults. Which in my mind should be a crime.

I MEAN, you cant be like 12 to 14 and wear the tiniest lil short shorts imaginable with silky smooth legs and NOT expect grown men to notice tbh. MY GUESS is more straight up adult men 100 percent noticed than would ever in a million years admit lol.

[bnkywuv]

I do but I don't think much of it. Back when I was closeted I'd have LITERAL panic attacks over it because I was terrified the kids would know why I was staring and do something horrible to me.

But yeah. it is sad that in most areas this is a prison sentence. It shouldn't be. Children are beautiful beings who don't anywhere near the amount of attention and positive encouragement they need to grow!

We want kids to grow up but then again we don't. We want kids to grow up but not in ways that up them on par with adults. Which in my mind should be a crime.

I MEAN, you cant be like 12 to 14 and wear the tiniest lil short shorts imaginable with silky smooth legs and NOT expect grown men to notice tbh. MY GUESS is more straight up adult men 100 percent noticed than would ever in a million years admit lol.

Like are people seriously TRYING to get people to gawk and stare just so they can have an excuse to criticize and scream "PEDOPHILE PERVERT!!!" in the store? LOL

[Scorchingwilde]

I do but I don't think much of it. Back when I was closeted I'd have LITERAL panic attacks over it because I was terrified the kids would know why I was staring and do something horrible to me.

But yeah. it is sad that in most areas this is a prison sentence. It shouldn't be. Children are beautiful beings who don't anywhere near the amount of attention and positive encouragement they need to grow!

We want kids to grow up but then again we don't. We want kids to grow up but not in ways that up them on par with adults. Which in my mind should be a crime.

I MEAN, you cant be like 12 to 14 and wear the tiniest lil short shorts imaginable with silky smooth legs and NOT expect grown men to notice tbh. MY GUESS is more straight up adult men 100 percent noticed than would ever in a million years admit lol.

Like are people seriously TRYING to get people to gawk and stare just so they can have an excuse to criticize and scream "PEDOPHILE PERVERT!!!" in the store? LOL

Might be actually. On the one hand, antis think that AI PIM is bad because it's trained on images of nonsexual nudity of minors from medical images and everyday life in nonwestern cultures, and they see the nudity itself as classifying as CSAM, but if a minor is wearing revealing clothing in person then it's not sexual at all and any staring is entirely evil and wrong to them. You can't admit that bodies aren't inherently sexual (which is true in my opinion, experiencing attraction is an internal experience for everyone that isn't asexual) while also criminalizing nude photos of minors that don't feature explicit sexual activity and calling every photo of kids from a region where nudity is normalized "CSAM."

[Theendoftheline]

I MEAN, you cant be like 12 to 14 and wear the tiniest lil short shorts imaginable with silky smooth legs and NOT expect grown men to notice tbh. MY GUESS is more straight up adult men 100 percent noticed than would ever in a million years admit lol.

Like are people seriously TRYING to get people to gawk and stare just so they can have an excuse to criticize and scream "PEDOPHILE PERVERT!!!" in the store? LOL

Might be actually. On the one hand, antis think that AI PIM is bad because it's trained on images of nonsexual nudity of minors from medical images and everyday life in nonwestern cultures, and they see the nudity itself as classifying as CSAM, but if a minor is wearing revealing clothing in person then it's not sexual at all and any staring is entirely evil and wrong to them. You can't admit that bodies aren't inherently sexual (which is true in my opinion, experiencing attraction is an internal experience for everyone that isn't asexual) while also criminalizing nude photos of minors that don't feature explicit sexual activity and calling every photo of kids from a region where nudity is normalized "CSAM."

Well, imo when it comes to teenagers or near teens IMO its more so that, well they are developing breasts, getting curvy, etc you kind of got to expect that that men are gonna very secretly find it attractive. Like c'mon the whole modern narrative that "oh she's lets say 15 therefore I feel no attraction towards her cause she's a literal child" is mostly just a socially constructed virtue signaling that biology heavily disagrees with. We in modern society are "supposed" to be pro science pro fact pro natural biology....except when it comes to anyone under the magic age of 18. I have personally seen guys stare at a girl walking by and be like "BRO check her tf out shes fucking hot" and another dude recognizing her and being like "bro shes fuckin 17 wtf" and immediately hes like "OH EW" as if 1 god damn year makes a whole world of difference.


As for the CSAM remember back in the early 2000's around 1998 to 2007 (I had JUST gotten access to internet then and was very underaged myself) and you could find literal nudist images on google under a supposed loophole of "if its not a minor in a inherently sexual situation its legal" era of the internet. I just remember it getting a lot of media attention at the time and FOX, CNN and other new sources were freaking out over it as a "child porn loophole" etc? I'm not saying I seeked that out constantly but I was a very curious kid and sometimes just ignorantly googled things not realizing just HOW deep of shit you could get in even for stuff like that back then.

[Scorchingwilde]

Like are people seriously TRYING to get people to gawk and stare just so they can have an excuse to criticize and scream "PEDOPHILE PERVERT!!!" in the store? LOL

Might be actually. On the one hand, antis think that AI PIM is bad because it's trained on images of nonsexual nudity of minors from medical images and everyday life in nonwestern cultures, and they see the nudity itself as classifying as CSAM, but if a minor is wearing revealing clothing in person then it's not sexual at all and any staring is entirely evil and wrong to them. You can't admit that bodies aren't inherently sexual (which is true in my opinion, experiencing attraction is an internal experience for everyone that isn't asexual) while also criminalizing nude photos of minors that don't feature explicit sexual activity and calling every photo of kids from a region where nudity is normalized "CSAM."

Well, imo when it comes to teenagers or near teens IMO its more so that, well they are developing breasts, getting curvy, etc you kind of got to expect that that men are gonna very secretly find it attractive. Like c'mon the whole modern narrative that "oh she's lets say 15 therefore I feel no attraction towards her cause she's a literal child" is mostly just a socially constructed virtue signaling that biology heavily disagrees with. We in modern society are "supposed" to be pro science pro fact pro natural biology....except when it comes to anyone under the magic age of 18. I have personally seen guys stare at a girl walking by and be like "BRO check her tf out shes fucking hot" and another dude recognizing her and being like "bro shes fuckin 17 wtf" and immediately hes like "OH EW" as if 1 god damn year makes a whole world of difference.

I agree entirely, it's just that the natural sexuality is found within girl and woman loving ephebo-teliophiles' sexualities and not the nude or nearly nude minors themselves. It doesn't matter much when we're talking about looking and discussing attraction, but it does play a role in what feminists call rape culture when it comes to actual assault of folks regardless of gender or age, where people refuse to masturbate or take care of their own sexuality if they're rejected and instead attack others. Antis hate the thought of us even feeling attraction, they don't really make a distinction, but folks who've been catcalled and harassed (who might be MAPs themselves) might care.

As for the CSAM remember back in the early 2000's around 1998 to 2007 (I had JUST gotten access to internet then and was very underaged myself) and you could find literal nudist images on google under a supposed loophole of "if its not a minor in a inherently sexual situation its legal" era of the internet. I just remember it getting a lot of media attention at the time and FOX, CNN and other new sources were freaking out over it as a "child porn loophole" etc? I'm not saying I seeked that out constantly but I was a very curious kid and sometimes just ignorantly googled things not realizing just HOW deep of shit you could get in even for stuff like that back then.

I wasn't super online then, and most of the images weren't interesting to me because they were of kids younger than my AoA, but I have memories of that time myself, a handful of pictures from like online national geographic with full frontal nudity of 3-5 kids. Never saved any of it anywhere except my own brain, but give it enough time and that might be a prosecutable offense *facepalm.*

[Theendoftheline]

Might be actually. On the one hand, antis think that AI PIM is bad because it's trained on images of nonsexual nudity of minors from medical images and everyday life in nonwestern cultures, and they see the nudity itself as classifying as CSAM, but if a minor is wearing revealing clothing in person then it's not sexual at all and any staring is entirely evil and wrong to them. You can't admit that bodies aren't inherently sexual (which is true in my opinion, experiencing attraction is an internal experience for everyone that isn't asexual) while also criminalizing nude photos of minors that don't feature explicit sexual activity and calling every photo of kids from a region where nudity is normalized "CSAM."

Well, imo when it comes to teenagers or near teens IMO its more so that, well they are developing breasts, getting curvy, etc you kind of got to expect that that men are gonna very secretly find it attractive. Like c'mon the whole modern narrative that "oh she's lets say 15 therefore I feel no attraction towards her cause she's a literal child" is mostly just a socially constructed virtue signaling that biology heavily disagrees with. We in modern society are "supposed" to be pro science pro fact pro natural biology....except when it comes to anyone under the magic age of 18. I have personally seen guys stare at a girl walking by and be like "BRO check her tf out shes fucking hot" and another dude recognizing her and being like "bro shes fuckin 17 wtf" and immediately hes like "OH EW" as if 1 god damn year makes a whole world of difference.

I agree entirely, it's just that the natural sexuality is found within girl and woman loving ephebo-teliophiles' sexualities and not the nude or nearly nude minors themselves. It doesn't matter much when we're talking about looking and discussing attraction, but it does play a role in what feminists call rape culture when it comes to actual assault of folks regardless of gender or age, where people refuse to masturbate or take care of their own sexuality if they're rejected and instead attack others. Antis hate the thought of us even feeling attraction, they don't really make a distinction, but folks who've been catcalled and harassed (who might be MAPs themselves) might care.

As for the CSAM remember back in the early 2000's around 1998 to 2007 (I had JUST gotten access to internet then and was very underaged myself) and you could find literal nudist images on google under a supposed loophole of "if its not a minor in a inherently sexual situation its legal" era of the internet. I just remember it getting a lot of media attention at the time and FOX, CNN and other new sources were freaking out over it as a "child porn loophole" etc? I'm not saying I seeked that out constantly but I was a very curious kid and sometimes just ignorantly googled things not realizing just HOW deep of shit you could get in even for stuff like that back then.

I wasn't super online then, and most of the images weren't interesting to me because they were of kids younger than my AoA, but I have memories of that time myself, a handful of pictures from like online national geographic with full frontal nudity of 3-5 kids. Never saved any of it anywhere except my own brain, but give it enough time and that might be a prosecutable offense *facepalm.*

Yeah I've noticed these days nudity in general oddly enough even in 100 percent non sexule ways is actually becoming more taboo, not just of kids or what have you but of adults to. When I used to watch national geographic as a kid you could see entire tribes running around naked and uncensored now the regulations must have gotten a lot tighter cause I notice you hardly ever see that anymore and if you do it's heavily blurred out. Super conservative values around being naked and nudism etc seems to have taken over lately and it's just socially frowned upon for networks to show these things....after all can't have lil Timmy seeing a pair of female nipples it might scar him for life LMAO.

[Andy1445]

More than a few times. I could tell they knew what I was looking at, but no one said anything